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760:(you can imagine it's hard to get my hands on a first edition) but the image is of poor quality. Instead, I have included the frontispiece engraving of Griswold, which still is of low quality but there's no blurry words to read! As far as bibliography, I'd have a hard time finding a complete version but I'll cull one from what's already listed in the article. Not sure why I should remove anything about his anthology from the lede, though... it's definitely his most important work... actually, I'm not sure about what you mean by the comments regarding the lede. I feel that it does justice as a summary of the full article, as per 380: 233: 356: 826:, and I feel it works pretty well. It seems pretty NPOV too (since I changed that word you mentioned), and points out all the pieces that make him notable, describing notable controversy, and serves as a concise stand-alone introduction. It quickly presents Griswold with "to be", briefly jumps through his biography, establishes his notability and influence as editor and anthologist, then jumps to the big controversy that he's known for today. I'm just at a loss. -- 544: 21: 224: 54: 173: 75: 534: 513: 294: 266: 429: 408: 439: 729: 718: 707: 685: 622: 696: 674: 304: 790:
I'm sorry! But I went and reverted back to the older version of the lede. I don't feel the new version adequately summarized the article or established his notability or how he's discussed these days. I'm no expert on ledes, but the new version just didn't do him justice, I feel. Can we flesh
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This article is really good. I'm just (ironically, as it seems when looking at the old GA review) hesitant about the lead. I think it's too short. I'd like more about his personal life, more about how he supported poetry teaching in schools. Kind of funny but... oh well.
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for a time; good eye. As far as gift book, we had a quick discussion on the FAC review. I was sorta taken aback that everyone didn't already know what a gift book was and didn't realize it needed explanation. My intention is to eventually get a stub article on it.
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In 1843 Griswold founded The Opal, an annual gift book that collected essays, stories, and poetry. Nathaniel Parker Willis edited its first edition, which was released in the fall of 1844. For a time, he was editor of the Saturday Evening
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Thanks for the review, Wrad. I'll take another look at that lead. While you're here, do you feel the "Influence and reputation" section is appropriately named? I've never been fully satisfied with it but I could be over-examining.
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The internal links are helpful. It's hard to identify them further here (i.e. as writers) because that doesn't add much context to this particular line (their writing has nothing to do with their strange interloping).
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I never said I didn't want your help...! In fact, I'm sort of begging for it! I'm just confused as heck. How does this lede NOT fully summarize the article, as ledes are supposed to do? I've just re-read
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Very nice! Thanks so much! I'm putting this article aside for a while but I may get back to it and work on bringing it to featured status. I'll definitely reconsider the lead along the way. --
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Rewrite lead section: remove unnecessary and stand alone details about his personal life. Avoid the use of words such as "bitter" in the lead: let the facts speak for themselves.
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feedback as far as what part of the lede you thought was too specific. But, I've found a new source and I'm still expanding so I'll get to the lede soon enough. Thanks again! --
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If you don't want my help, please improve the lead section yourself; on the points of neutral language, clear paragraph scope, and notability of facts. –
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I'm passing it, although I would like a bit more in the lead about his early life. I think it meets GA criteria, this is just my preference.
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you think the lede needs such drastic changes? I've not been made aware of exactly why this old version wasn't acceptable. --
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but no explanation is given on who they are or why they have taken upon themselevs to do this. Could someone add this?
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I have rewritten the lead section, possibly you can improve it further. The other issues have been resolved. –
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Thanks for taking a look. I actually have an image of the title page from one of the early editions of
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for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.
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Surely one line explaining their motivation would be helpful and add arguably necessary context?
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Add a bibliography section. Remove explanation about "anthology" in the lead section.
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Don't forget to sign your posts. If you feel it is so important, go right ahead. --
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I failed the nomination, because I believe criterion #1 was not met. –
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something out here on the talk page instead and, please, explain
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Still no response on this GA nom... Hope to see it pass soon! --
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These two ladies are mentioned for the first time in the line:
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Thanks for getting back to it! I'll keep plugging away here. I
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The article looks good, but needs some work on the following
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Something confused me as first time reader of this article.
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