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558: 542: 671:. The Ruger copies the grip angle and balance of the German Luger, is a straight blowback (as opposed to the recoil-operated locked breech Nambu), uses a grip frame stamped in two halves welded together with tubular receiver (as opposed to the forged receiver and grip frame of the Nambu); it has long been recognised that the Ruger pistol combines ideas from the Nambu and Luger with innovative manufacturing techniques from Bill Ruger. 574: 526: 141: 188: 411: 240: 219: 483: 472: 461: 450: 101: 61: 21: 758:. I think that merging these articles will make all the information easier to access and edit, all information is closely related enough to warrant being in an article together, and the Ruger Standard article is of a reasonable size that the merging of the others with it will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. - 351: 312: 891:"The main standard for whether content is noteworthy on Knowledge (XXG) is whether there are trustworthy secondary sources to support the text. Household cleaners, cars and cutlery are all used in deliberate crime, but are less likely to be noted in the media for it, for reasons of sensationalism as well as political bias." 439: 933:
Having a subsection "criminal uses" is neutral? Wouldn't neutral include a section of "lawful uses" (self-defense, predator control, subsistance hunting, recreational target shooting, marksmanship training (civilian, military, police), military use (U.S. Navy SEALS), etc.)? An Internet Movie Firearms
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doesn't mean that articles must be halfway between being pro-gun and anti-gun, it means representing fairly and proportionally the views expressed in published, reliable sources. Published, reliable sources are more likely to focus on illicit uses of guns. If this were just an indiscriminate list of
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Arguing from the absence of 'criminal use' sections on other items is not a valid argument based on Knowledge (XXG) policy. You stated in your edit summary that you thought this might be a "political inclusion". Knowledge (XXG) does not prohibit editors from adding information that supports their
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What author are you referring to? The section seems to be primarily written by this IP user 2600:1010:B157:A0BF:F94C:A68E:5627:61A3, who does not have a user page. User:Mr.1032 was the first person to add a "notable use section", all he has is an "arm bears" joke. Regardless, stating a political
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Well, it's great to see such a turnout; and with such an enthusiastic response too! Because some years ago someone proposed a merger of two of the four pages proposed here and nobody objected, and nobody responded in a week's time to this proposal, I'm going to be
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procedure applies to this page. This page is related to governmental regulation of firearm ownership; the social, historical and political context of such regulation; and the people and organizations associated with these issues, which has been
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If you put both the Ruger .22 pistol and the Nambu pistol side by side, with their cocking handles (charging handles) pulled directly back, you will notice they are the same system. And Bill Ruger invented this system? Appears not.
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At least one editor has expressed opposition to the "Criminal Use" section, and there have been reversions back and forth. I restored it, but I wanted to open up a dialogue to see whether people feel that this may be a
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Due to no counter argument being provided and the author having plainly displayed their political affiliation on their profile page, I believe that it should stay down until a satisfactory one is given.
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and most of the information on that page is merely a duplication of what will be in the "Standard" article. All the cited and relevant info from the MK II article would be preserved.
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do you have any thoughts on moving the page to "Ruger MK Series Pistols" instead? I'd like to give the "Standard" and MK I pistols their own infobox down in their section.
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issue. However, the list on this page focuses on high-profile mass-shootings, which I'm sure you know represent a small but extensively-reported portion of gun crimes.
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Database style listing of every appearance of Ruger Standard variant in movies, TV, anime, videos, etc. would quickly be struck as redundant trivia.--
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Incorrect reasoning, the purpose of this website is to provide neutral information, hence the fact checks and the discussions on bias.
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affiliation does not mean a user's edits are invalid. The counter argument is what I listed in my edit summary:
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Ruger did not claim to have invented the bolt-in-receiver cocking system common to the
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I agree that there may be an issue, but the issue is not Neutrality.
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article into this one as the MK II is simply a variant of the
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Sounds like a great idea! Much better sounding name. -
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I believe the controversy here is the fact that Mr.
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