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before the state agency did. It was hired by the state to do work, i think outside its county, because it was capable, while the state agency could not do that work. It stands out in my experience working with NRHP database data as, i think, the only county bridge department having multiple (5 or more) works that are NRHP-listed, while there are numerous state ones. The article can be developed more from the sources given. --
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development is called for, but it is expanded already and I think too large to be kept only within the county article. Again to Dough4872 now, the list of bridges is not a list of bridges merely maintained, it is a starter list of works BY the commission; these works are notable enough to be listed on the
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P.S. When starting the article, I only knew it was unusual among county depts for the number of NRHP bridges. Consulting the sources, from which I have now added more, I see that the commission was internationally known as a leader, and I think is quite notable on its own. I think further
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