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War art is that which has been developed and executed (1) by artists officially commissioned either to spend varying periods of wartime under fire or to be present at nearly every kind of military activity, in order to record them; or (2) by servicemen-artists responding to powerful inner urges to
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which are revealed by googling "war artist" is support for a strategy of creating sub-articles which focus exclusively on "official" war artists of the First World War, the Second Word War and subsequent "post-war" conflicts. These men and women traveled toward danger and combat armed primarily with
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The problem with the redlinks is that these are all supposed to be "famous" war artists - at a minimum, artists should be sufficiently notable to have their own Knowledge (XXG) article to qualify. If redlinks are eliminated, it is obviously without prejudice for someone to create an article later on
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I've read this twice and still don't understand what you're talking about. I wiil re-read this tomorrow to see if I understand it differently. Perhaps if you explain it in different words, I will begin to grasp the point. If you are trying to argue that there is not a difference between an artist
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My view is that a true war artist is involved in the actual conflict in some way and present at the events they record. This is irrespective of whether they were appointed by the state (or others) or worked of their own volition. For example, I would not consider Picasso a war artist simply because
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IMO, artists who depict the reality of war are only one element of a very complex topic. In other words, the 20th-century evolution of the artist-in-uniform is only a "modern" aspect of a more complicated story. The "official" war artists are valid subjects; and there is sufficient information to
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On what is this based? I have an interest in POW art and many such works are of importance but were created in captivity in a voluntary, or only semi-official, capacity eg soldiers who happened to be artists would record POW life after capture. Sometimes this would be on a self-appointed basis,
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I think your logic is sound to develop war artist as long as you make the article more than a list, i.e. include the social and cultural implication of "war artists" as a community, instead along with the history of the unit. I will certainly be willing to monitor your edits and can review the
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This article should "continue to exist", that is not the question. The question is "does it follow reference or is it original research?". Right now we have a myriad of references, none of which even state a basic definition and the current article is ignoring some very reliable secondary and
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Tenmei, your work so far is deeply impressive and puts my contribution in the shade. My query was why you had deleted some artists that had Wiki articles and were well referenced. I assume this was a temporary situation caused by work in progress, as all is now well as far as I am
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article (after some trimming) - list articles do need a short referenced introduction explaining its content and setting its parameters. That is what you have here for all intents an purposes. So all I am proposing is matching reference re: copy paste this article into
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If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on
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Using the online archives of the New Zealand War Art project has 3 problems when used as a guideline for a Knowledge (XXG) article; they are not a secondary source, they by definition limit their scope to to fit a national and curatorial guideline re:
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otherwise it would be on the instruction of a senior officer. Such works have been: used in war crime trials; placed in museums (such as the Imperial War Museum); subsequently sold for considerable sums (such as the works of Jack Bridger Chalker).
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At present, the lists are divided by nationality and the sub-divided chronologically by historical war; however, this is not the only way in which this subject may be parsed. The following are some examples of other ways to examine this subject:
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This is only a plausible start. At present, each article has a hybrid text + list presentation. I would guess that both text and lists will expand further; and at some point, a number of list-only pages may be created, e.g., compare
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When any of the above-listed redlink names turn blue, we will know that transferring these names to the talk page was a worthwhile exercise. If none turn blue, then we will have learned that this was a waste of time and effort.
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So we get a basic definition: "A war artist is an artist commissioned by a government or publication, or self motivated, to document war". Its described as an occupation, not a genre. Tagging and noting the problem for cleanup.
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seems to be a descriptive article based on observation of the title in documentation, not art historical reference, has no supporting references in its introduction, and the first document cited clearly states the topic as "War
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Yes -- "notable" and "war artist" are redundant in each section heading; but it was a reasonable emphasis in an earlier stage of development. As you can see, the duplicative section headings are now more concise.
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support related articles. The lists of official war artists and information about them could be developed more fully in these distinct articles. If something like this develops, then brief summary paragraphs with
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but the large number of early military/naval artists who painted genre battles on land or sea, often wholly imaginary ones, and usually without ever having gone near an actual conflict, should be somewhere else.
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In response to this comment, all dynamic list templates were removed. However, today I added templates in the American, Australian, British and Canadian sections. Are they not necessary? unhelpful? --
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are historically wrong in many ways. What matters is that the artists who created these icons of popular culture are depicting the topic of war. Is this uncritical POV appropriate for this article?
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I think you are getting over-precise here. Is a narrow definition required? Add those refs by all means - it's no use just adding adding a tag. I've cleaned up by removing it, among other things.
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is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Knowledge (XXG) policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
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I am not convinced about these proposed changes. I like the recent improvements and making a change to 'War Art' introduces a wide range of new possibilities that are far too general.
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Does it make sense to limit new additions to this list? Is it appropriate at this stage of the article's development to initiate a standard limiting names on this select list to
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The introduction needs to be re-worked; and the focus of the article needs to be clarified. If we conceive of this article to be about artists who depict war as a subject, then
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all sources defining the topic have dried up (dead links). Its sourcing style is very unreliable - shortcut links to some websites instead of listing author, title, date, etc.
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not.
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pieces of war art, by artists formally commissioned by the New Zealand government, and other unofficial art works that were acquired by or donated to the collection
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a sketch-pad and secondarily with a gun. This overview article then becomes about the artists who are properly excluded from those new articles. For example,
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If this explanation is not clear enough, please allow me to try to explain again in different words. My sole objective is to help us move towards consensus. --
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What about moving the red links to the talk page? Decision-making about any one of the red links might benefit from further discussion? Compare, for example,
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as the "common footmen in the Army of Art" rather than acknowledging the role or the men and women integrated within the fabric of modern military forces.
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would be on-topic as well. In the context of this article, it is irrelevant that Picasso did not fight in Spain. Similarly, it doesn't matter that West's
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already covers redirects to base noun forms and reference obviously show "war art" and "war artist" are the same topic. "war art" Google Scholars at 4,670
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is not wrong; however, his arguments are insufficient in my view. In this instance, the academic POV is disfavored -- see contemporary genre theories at
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There is a distinction between 'Official War Artist' and 'Notable War Artist', although I am not convinced the definition of the former is widely agreed.
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The selection standard may not be sufficiently nuanced. Perhaps this approach is only good enough as a first step? a move in a constructive direction?
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I would interject that "notability" does not need to be defined. The "List" being made here in this context is a "list of Knowledge (XXG) articles".
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Question: In the unique context of this article, should we identify the Anglo-American Benjamin West as a "Canadian war artist" because he painted
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has posted on this talk page. His words are timely and meaningful in the process of refining consensus about what this article is and is not. --
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I don't think we can go by personal definitions. There has to be some solid definition references or we don't even have an article, we just have
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covers the topic beginning with Goya, through the American Civil War, and notes by WWI the profession of War Artist had been well established.
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There is also a problem with the term 'official', as inherent in this is an acceptance of the authority of the body that confers such status.
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brings up the same thing, War Art is art by people involved in war in some manner. I am also wondering if this article should be moved to "
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and to re-insert the artist's name on this list. I would suggest that they ought to be deleted, as otherwise the section runs afoul of
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http://www.google.com/search?q=Combat+artist&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
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seems to be the overall criteria. So Picasso would be a "War Artist" under that def, Leutze would fall more under the definition of a "
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The article seems to need some changes to match it with reference so I propose (and will do) the following if there is no objection:
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is a valid Knowledge (XXG) article topic" - then they should be listed here, they are not here because they are notable in some way.
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The section "War artists by nationality" takes up over three quarters of the article. It should be split into a separate article.
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It is entirely reasonable that someone with "art" in his username would hold views which are informed by an appreciation of
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The "under construction" headnote was added as a way of acknowledging the reasonable points that have been put forward by
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was only a German soldier on the western front in 1914-1917 and at the eastern front on 1917-1918? If an article about
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
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However, this article is certainly about 'Notable' war artists and I am unclear why Tenmei has deleted some entries.
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as "Non-Canadian war artists" despite the fact that their significant combat experience was with Canadian troops? --
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article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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you want, but leave the article as a stub. Yes, there is considerable overlapping in the projected article about
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before July 2010, limited only to those with a Knowledge (XXG) article which is the sole basis for the adjective
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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at this point and I am tagging it as such. Intro and basic definition references are the same as those used at
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A war artist, also known as a combat artist, captures the experience of war in an artistic manner whilst based
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eviscerates the article and if, for example, only two paragraphs remain — no problem. The current versions of
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are valid. Both are necessary. Perhaps my point-of-view is better explained and illustrated by pointing to
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It seems OTT to have a dynamic list note under each sub heading: surely one note at the top would suffice??
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There are many artists here who are unreferenced, let alone having their own entry. Should they be deleted?
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simplifies the issue at hand. It bears repeating that "the threshold for inclusion in Knowledge (XXG) is
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simplifies the issue at hand. It bears repeating that "the threshold for inclusion in Knowledge (XXG) is
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does appear to be proposing a legitimate 17th century academic argument about expanding the article about
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The definition is is even more complicated: senior officers might instruct others to record events. See
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depict direct war experience; or (3) by sensitive onlookers; or (4) by a combination of all of these.
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Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with
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is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under
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The redlinks of those whose names were added, but who do not have an article yet are listed below:
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unless you can prove they are two different topics by reference re: the Knowledge (XXG) policy on
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This is not an urgent issue, but it does seem reasonable to invite comments and suggestions. --
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A Combat Artist in World War II, by Edward Reep · University Press of Kentucky 2015, page 200
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must be known for something other than depicting war -- see "Status: Notability" on talk page
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to it would follow Knowledge (XXG) policy and guidelines. Article titles need to be nouns (
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is validated by the books which incorporate the term "war artist" in the title, e.g.,
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I hope this short list helps to sharpen issues which may need further development. --
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2005. This may not be the best rationale, but it was at least consistent with
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Not a waste because potentially unnotable references will have been removed.
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tertiary sources that do provide a basic definition. That makes this article
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were culled. The simplistic and transparent rationales are explained above.
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The result of the move request was: no sign of any consensus for renaming
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The Russian crossing of Danube near Zimnitsa on 15 June 1877, painted by
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In a context informed by practices which seem to have worked out well at
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Is it not self-evident that the appropriateness of an article about the
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Over the course of the coming months, I will continue to re-visit what
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Official war artists include anyone who is identified as "official" + "
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offers. I welcome this re-evaluation as a timely opportunity. Why not?
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Old problem, even worse now - no reliable sources define this article
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he painted about war (no matter how great or famous the actual work).
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I'm still not sure that I understand, but whether intended or not,
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and who also has a Knowledge (XXG) article written about him or her.
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I agree: move all redlinks to talk page pending proof of notability.
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Looks like that's a combination of government and self motivated.
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and his work, I still don't know what you expect to happen next?--
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the sourcing I can find does not match the lead of this article:
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This depiction of events in war in 1877 was based on first-hand,
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List of civilian artists who have depicted war contemporaneously
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and see where it takes you. Reference is placing this topic at
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wants to make. We only stand to gain from the new perspective
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Fixed. It was my mistake. Thanks, AnomieBOT. Most impressive.
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War and Conflict by Jane Bingham · Raintree 2006, pages 30-35
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War paint: art, war, state and identity in Britain, 1939-1945
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War paint: art, war, state and identity in Britain, 1939-1945
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Military science, technology, and theory task force articles
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as distinguished from articles about "official war artists."
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Revisiting this article there seem to be several problems:
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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C-Class military science, technology, and theory articles
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in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of
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validates this as a solid, on-point suggestion. Perhaps
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Military attachés and observers in the Russo-Japanese War
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This is the broadest possible way to define the category.
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a
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and this talk page are retained in the edit history. --
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I would welcome input before editing the introduction.
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Also, consider links found when you google search it,
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and an overview aritcle about the artists who created
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and (2) inclusion in an exhibit of war artists at the
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asserts -- this article should continue to exist. --
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All subjects of Knowledge (XXG) articles are notable
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there is what seems to be one def. More are needed.
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This article has been checked against the following
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I forsee no adverse consequences. 4701:, the "Official war artist" in war is parsed. 3768:will need to remain in an overview article. 4220:. Orengen was a sketch-correspondent in the 4132:was based on second-hand, indirect accounts? 8: 6667:I agree with the split into a separate page. 6318:Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting 6225:Christchurch, New Zealand: Hazard Press. 13- 6185:Harries, Meirion and Suzie Harries. (1983). 5813:and have the same problem as noted by me at 5669:Christchurch, New Zealand: Hazard Press. 13- 5633:Harries, Meirion and Suzie Harries. (1983). 4159:Artist as contemporary, non-inolved observer 395:Knowledge (XXG):Fair use rationale guideline 102:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Military history 5491:. The traditional academic genres include: 4406:- what it currently seems to be). Above at 1711: 1709: 1707: 1705: 1703: 545:Too many unreferenced/redlink artists here? 6421:I have just modified one external link on 5977:Knowledge (XXG)'s policy on article titles 5973:polling is not a substitute for discussion 5690:Lanker, Brian, and Nicole Newnham (2000). 5012:Re-write the intro to match reference and 1521:, 1956 -    , Peacekeeping in East Timor 617:Order of the Rising Sun#Status notability? 462:The current introduction runs as follows: 256: 212: 126: 47: 5790:article as you feel it nears completion. 4278:were created, Dix would be excluded, yes? 2927: 2925: 2923: 2921: 2919: 2917: 2915: 2913: 2911: 2909: 2907: 2905: 2903: 2901: 2899: 2897: 2895: 2893: 2136:"War artist Arabella Dorman paints Iraq," 1717:Conflicts 1945 to today, official artists 5927:The Oxford Companion to Military History 5182:At worst, this will become one of those 4959:The Oxford Companion to Military History 4218:Depiction based on first-hand experience 3957:and (2) inclusion in Brandon, Laura and 3624: 3622: 3620: 3618: 3616: 3614: 3612: 3610: 3608: 3606: 3604: 3602: 3600: 3598: 3596: 3594: 3592: 3590: 3588: 3586: 3584: 3582: 3580: 3578: 3576: 3574: 3572: 3570: 3568: 3566: 3564: 3562: 3560: 3558: 3556: 3554: 3552: 3550: 3548: 3546: 3544: 3542: 3540: 3538: 3536: 3534: 3532: 3530: 3528: 3526: 3524: 3522: 3520: 3518: 3516: 3514: 3512: 3510: 3508: 3506: 3504: 3502: 3500: 2891: 2889: 2887: 2885: 2883: 2881: 2879: 2877: 2875: 2873: 1291: 1289: 1287: 1285: 1283: 1281: 1279: 1277: 1275: 1273: 1271: 1269: 1267: 1265: 1263: 1261: 82:This article is within the scope of the 6255:Columbia, South Carolina: Cerberus. 10- 6086:, "war artist" Google Scholars at 1,270 5727:Columbia, South Carolina: Cerberus. 10- 5086:In short, if you are proposing to turn 4338:List of official war artists by country 4123:Artist as non-contemporary story-teller 3498: 3496: 3494: 3492: 3490: 3488: 3486: 3484: 3482: 3480: 3431: 3429: 3413: 2869: 2473: 2194: 2192: 2163: 2161: 2159: 2100: 1613: 1314:, No. 55, Spring-Summer 2002, pp. 4-19. 1259: 1257: 1255: 1253: 1251: 1249: 1247: 1245: 1243: 1241: 1155: 566:Knowledge (XXG):Manual of Style (lists) 321:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Visual arts 258: 49: 19: 6156:Foot, Michael Richard Daniel. (1990). 5606:Foot, Michael Richard Daniel. (1990). 5397:that matches reference, and re-direct 3953:were selected using two criteria: (1) 3881:were selected using two criteria: (1) 3809:were selected using two criteria: (1) 1677: 1675: 1673: 1671: 1669: 1667: 1665: 1663: 1661: 1659: 1657: 517:(4) by a combination of all of these. 92:. To use this banner, please see the 5380:. 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In a context established by 4107:Washington Crossing the Delaware 3757:Washington Crossing the Delaware 2365:, 1910 - 1994, Second World War 2359:, 1911 - 2002, Second World War 2347:, 1908 -    , Second World War 2329:, 1923 -    , Second World War 2074:, 1910 -    , Second World War 2048:, 1935 -    , Second World War 1950:, 1935 -    , Second World War 1497:, 1921 – 1997, Second World War 1491:, 1914 – 1944, Second World War 1485:, 1904 - 1982, Second World War 1479:, 1919 – 1975, Second World War 1469:, 1902 – 1966, Second World War 1463:, 1916 – 1990, Second World War 1457:, 1901 – 1981, Second World War 1451:, 1912 – 2000, Second World War 1445:, 1919 – 2001, Second World War 1439:, 1911 – 1992, Second World War 1433:, 1906 – 1986, Second World War 1427:, 1908 – 1986, Second World War 1421:, 1899 – 1996, Second World War 1415:, 1901 – 1989, Second World War 1409:, 1897 – 1987, Second World War 1403:, 1919 – 1989, Second World War 1397:, 1918 – 2000, Second World War 1385:, 1913 – 2001, Second World War 1379:, 1900 – 1972, Second World War 1364:, 1877 – 1932 , First World War 458:Dispute definition of war artist 393:. 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(2007). 6195:London: Michael Joseph. 10- 6116:07:20, 11 August 2010 (UTC) 6099:19:40, 10 August 2010 (UTC) 6091:SomeRandomFilmArticleEditor 6072:01:05, 10 August 2010 (UTC) 5869:10:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC) 5661:Haworth, Jennifer. (2007). 5641:London: Michael Joseph. 10- 5571:and its several spin-offs, 5387:List of official war artist 5382:List of official war artist 5033:List of battlefield artists 5019:Move the list items to new 4622:Representative artists list 4506:Please allow me to explain: 4276:Official German war artists 4019:German official war artists 3793:Library and Archives Canada 3655:Notable Russian war artists 3630:War Art, Artist biographies 3163:Archibald Standish-Hartrick 3088:Archibald Douglas Colquhoun 2933:German Official War Artists 2453:, 1935 -    , Persian Gulf 2375:Charles Anthony Francis Law 2333:Patrick George Cowley-Brown 1939:Archibald Standish Hartrick 1824:Notable British war artists 1515:, 1961 -    , War in Iraq 1164:Public Broadcasting Service 6786: 6482:(last update: 5 June 2024) 6418:Hello fellow Wikipedians, 6408:12:47, 5 August 2011 (UTC) 6386:12:29, 5 August 2011 (UTC) 6051:19:11, 9 August 2010 (UTC) 6031:19:00, 9 August 2010 (UTC) 6002:17:37, 9 August 2010 (UTC) 5942:16:46, 9 August 2010 (UTC) 5827:22:18, 8 August 2010 (UTC) 5800:00:58, 8 August 2010 (UTC) 5785:19:16, 7 August 2010 (UTC) 5762:15:49, 7 August 2010 (UTC) 5583:. 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