Talk:Whore of Babylon

2716:(if it is important to the question). Is Mystery Babylon the same as the Whore of Babylon? I did temporarily redirect Mystery Babylon to Whore of Babylon, but I want to discuss this with other editors (Christian or not). From my perspective, Whore of Babylon refers to Revelation chapter 17 and Mystery Babylon refers to Revelation 18. Some believe that Mystery Babylon is a Apocalyptic sovereignty (country) in the End times, such as the United States. I wanted to know your opinion, and see if Mystery Babylon should still redirect here or create a new article for it only if it truly is recognized as a different eschatology concept. Cheers, 837: 1234: 1213: 460: 439: 1577:

which has no page, year and publisher. It's unverifiable. I tagged these sections before removing them. Likewise with the paragraph "The first to see Jerusalem in Revelation's Babylon were the French Jesuit Jean Hardouin " again no references, original research, unverifiable. Also the section says "Scholarly views", and lists only preterists viewpoints. That's POV. Like the other viewpoints are not scholarly? The whole article is rather slanted.

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good faith editing. 91.209.115.8's version of the historicist section is a poorly written and sourced attack on the historicism viewpoint. All viewpoints should be represented, not just preterists. I'm fine with the other viewpoints like Earthly Jerusalem being in the article, if it meets wikipedia standards, which at the moment in 91.209's version does not.

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sources to prove the "some" I can, but that is completely unnecessary. Likewise there are "various" documents from the vatican that state the wording in the article, but I only cited one, true. Again if necessary I can provide more documents, but that takes time, I'm reducing that wording to "An" for now so we can simply agree.

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believe in such. (forgot to mention). I don't see this change as significant and threats are not kind. You seem to be undoing all my changes on every page, because you have a grudge, why not let it go friend? "And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient," 2 Tim 2:24.

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I think this is a fine point. Both the Whore of Babylon and Eisheth Zenunim are female personifications of evil. The Book of Revelation was written around the year 95 CE, early enough to have influenced Kabbalistic mythology, so it is not impossible that the story of Eisheth Zenunim is related to the

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Some of the citations are from some very POV Bible study. I'm going to take the step of removing the extreme POV statements that don't have a relatively neutral source. I also agree on the images and am going to remove them. They should not appear with the captions relating the Catholic Church to the

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requires trimming of the "Other views" section, especially the "Jehovah's Witnesses" subsection. It adds little of value to the "Historicism" subsection. If "Jehovah's Witnesses" is retained, it would be helpful to add some scholarly sources, preferably from the last couple of decades. Watchtower and

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where the purple and green trim on the Evangelion unit change to purple and red in the context of the end of the world. For now it just seems to be an agreed upon reference by the overall Evangelion community but I will not add it until there is an absolute source. I recognize this as something that

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It is an definite violation of NPOV to call the kingdom allegorical. There is no scholarly consensus on the point of allegorical. There is no point of making citations to this point, as the variation in interpretation of Revelation is common knowledge. Interpreters vary on how allegorical they make

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did not even exist at that time. Since the Whore persecuted apostles and prophets, the Whore must have existed in the first century. This totally demolishes the claim that Christian Rome or Vatican City is the Whore. Rome was not a Christian city at that time, and Vatican City did not even exist, so

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Personally I'm of the opinion that at very least religious articles should be eternally locked from anon-IP editing, editors who believe they can use Knowledge to promote their own minority opinion. I suspect that Mr IP won't answer, since self-styled preachers usually conjecture their own theories

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Starting with the paragraph "In Jeremiah 13, Judah is warned that because of her whoredom, the cups of all of the people will be..." it's all original research. Moving up one paragraph to "For example, in Matthew 23:34-37 and Luke 11:47-51" that is also primarily original research with 1 reference

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The paragraph that identifies the former Soviet Union as the Whore of Babylon needs serious work (and/or deletion). Rather than referencing a source that supports the assertion that the USSR was viewed as the Whore of Babylon, it instead references sources that indicate that Dispensationalist view

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reference in the historicist viewpoint then I'd gladly add some "neutral representation" in the Earthly Jerusalem section as well. But wikipedia is not about debunking positions, it is about stating each position clearly. If we had counter points to every section the article would be massive and

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Also 91.209.115.8, going around and blanking my other changes in articles without giving any reason is against wikipedia policy. I understand that you lean heavily toward the preterist viewpoint, yet censoring other opinions because you disagree with little or no wikipedia policy foundation is not

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I have noticed that, strangely, "Eisheth Zenunim" redirects to this article. Also, there is a section here titled "Kabbalistic views" that talks about Eisheth Zenunim. But Eisheth Zenunim is a demon in Jewish folklore that has no relation whatsoever with the Whore of Babylon, except the fact that

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Hi Ian, Regarding the "some" vs "ellen white", I thought it quite obvious that some people disagree with the first interpretation listed in this article. Can't we agree that is obvious? There are three other opinions listed, held by many individuals, which all disagree. If you would like more

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Hi Ian, The only change I'm making in regards to this edit is changing the word "many" to "some", in two sentences, and also changing the grammar and wording from "Ellen White" having to "some" having. As that is true as well. Lastly, I moved one section down in order, based on how many people

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There are only 2 references in 91.209's version for that section, and it's debatable if those are scholarly. The other is a Roman Catholic defense, and the section is designed to discredit the historicist viewpoint and promote the above two viewpoints. In my version there are 14 references from

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I think not. The Christian concept is derived from somewhere, if explained/sourced properly to be a symbol borrowed from the post-Babylonian Judaism, transfered from its original Judaic despise of the Babylon imperial power to the Christian despise of the Roman imperial power, a derivation from

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First, why does "Reformational" appear in the title? I thought the most neutral term was "Reformation" and "Protestant Reformation" only slightly less so. A Net search finds 2 orders of magnitude fewer occurrences of "Reformational" than of "Reformation". (Disclosure: I'm a Catholic, which is

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Regarding the comment in regards to my version stating.... the "subsection "Roman Catholic Church", contains a poorly written, illustrated and sourced attack on the Roman Catholic Church" Scholarly views should appear first in the article, as they do in the version of 91.209.115.8." ......

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Is Family International's View significant enough to be listed alongside major denominations like Seventh Day Adventists and the Catholic Church? The Family International articles lists them as a cult, and their practices seem like they are based on radical or potentially even heretical

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Hey 61.6.163.30, I have a question since you know more about Catholic beliefs than me. I saw that you made a recent change stating that the Catholic Church rejects this interpretation. I know a lot less about Catholicism than you, but that is what I found also when reading the Catholic

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Further, the paragraph concludes with a disparaging (and, I submit, not NPOV) comment that the fall of the Soviet Union has caused Dispensationalists to revise their commentaries. Again, this is unsourced. (and, not true, since Dispensationalists still tend to view Gog as Russia).

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perspective). The Seventh day Adventist Church also rejects this. Along with Jehovah's witnesses (see their section) and Mormons (I'm pretty sure) . So my question is what major denomination holds this viewpoint? If it is just a few theologians then it is

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The latter version, in the subsection "Roman Catholic Church", contains a poorly written, illustrated and sourced attack on the Roman Catholic Church. Scholarly views should appear first in the article, as they do in the version of 91.209.115.8.

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speculate that "Babylon" is used to refer to Rome. This is bolstered by the remark in Rev. 17:9 that she sits on "seven mountains" (the King James Version Bible-the New International Version Bible uses the words "seven hills"), which could be the

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I noticed that too. The "Kabbalistic view" of something that's kind of, sort of, a little bit like something in the New Testament seems not to belong in this article. I didn't want to boldly remove the whole section, but maybe somebody should.

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neither of them could be the Whore. Furthermore, Fundamentalists continually (though wrongly) claim that Catholicism itself did not exist in the first century, meaning that based on their very own argument Catholicism could not be the Whore!

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lack flow. At least separate the sections into different viewpoints for clarity. Again as stated earlier I'm ok with a section stating that people believe that Babylon refers to Rome, if it is properly cited and doesn't fail validation.

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Due to a complaint over problematic editing and deletions, I've protected the page temporarily in order to bring the editors to the talk page here to discuss their edits. Please use this page to bridge differences and achieve a consensus.

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http://books.google.com/books?id=vJ78Vd4O9d4C&pg=PA861&dq=book+of+Revelation+95+catholic&hl=en&ei=W4u3TPrzNMWDcKv_mLoG&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CEUQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false

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is on the borderland between scarlet and indigo. I cannot find the section you refer to, but I believe might have been the common street-preacher-sermon scribble from some unregistered-IP-moron, that use to annoy us serious editors.

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was removed a while back. It's used to state "most Bible scholars" but the source also just states "most Bible scholars" without mentioning who. I believe I may have tagged that with a tag, before removing it. If you'd like the

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The protection has been in a version containing a non-neutral section on the Catholic Church. Simply put, the final paragraph of that section is acceptable and historical, while the rest appears to me to be advocacy of a POV.

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I think that most Dispensationalists have tended to lean towards the City of Rome as the location of the Whore of Babylon, due to the Seven Hills/Seven Mountains reference, but I do not have a source available at this moment.

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episode 17. References are also made in the form of a power up in the game The Binding of Isaac as well as season 6 of Dexter in the form of a doomsday tableau. Another reference is made by the tetrological remake of

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Second, "The Roman Catholic Church denies the claim that it is being referred to by the Book of Revelation as the Whore of Babylon" is marked "". Altho there are plenty of SEMI-official denials--such as the one from

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be directed to a page giving links to each of the above articles. If there is no objection I will create the disambiguation page and change the redirects accordingly - does 48 hours seem like a reasonable interval?

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Now deleted. Knowledge doesn't base content decisions on whether something is 'heretical', but we certainly take significance into account, and without secondary comment, the evidence for that is non-existent.

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are seven mountains on which the woman is seated; they are also seven kings, five of whom have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he comes he must remain only a little while (Rev. 17:9–10)

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Awake are a reliable source for what Jehovah's Witnesses believe, but seven citations of material published by Jehovah's Witnesses should not be necessary in this article and may be promotional or advocacy.

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Where precisely is the the use of "hills" instead of "mountains" in 17:9 coming from in the King James version? After comparing various versions I can't seem to find any variations using that phrase.

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see America as the new Whore of Babylon. The first thing one might ask is, so what? A second thing one might ask is what your sources are--and those turn out to be rather fringy writings including

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Also the Shin Megami Tensei and Persona games depict the "Mother Harlot", a woman with a golden goblet riding atop a crimson, winged beast with 7 heads and 10 horns. It's the Whore of Babylon.

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I'd respectfully disagree with 91.209.115.8's version being better, although I would like to see all viewpoints accurately represented and sourced. Consider the section "Earthly Jerusalem" in

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the book, though there is general consensus that Revelation contains much figurative language. But what specifics are allegorical or figurative and what is literal, has no consensus. (

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Ask Ian that question :) The statement "Ellen G. White have been led to believe that Imperial Rome could not meet such a specification", doesn't seem grammatically correct to me.

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I think "Reformational" is used because it is a historical designation. "Protestant" would be inappropriate since not many Protestants accept this interpretation today. Reformation

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The scarlet in itself doesn't derive from the Revelations, but as a symbol of Roman elite (such as for example the Imperial power) a while before Christianity emerged. The

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The pictures in this section are very POV, as is most of the text. Cardinals wear scarlet - who is it who connects that with Revelation 17:4? The same section appears in

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pointed out to you over and over by multiple editors, you have shown that you understand them when it comes to other POVs, but not when it comes to your own actions.

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Also it seems like I may be arguing against just one person? 202.153.172.99 using words such as "scholarly section"? With 0 contributions besides this talk page?

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both are related to prostitution. Eisheth Zenunim should have its own article. Mentions of her in this article are completely irrelevant and should be removed.

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I agree, but only if there is something really significant. I don't think something from one episode of a TV show or from a game really makes the grade here.

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And as of today, it's back to the form I cited but w/o the "citation needed". I refuse to get into a revert war, but will anybody explain WHY there is one?

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Even if we don't agree with the interpretation, I would like to see a more balanced acknowledgement of such views, no matter how controversial. Thanks.

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If five of these kings had fallen in John’s day and one of them was still in existence, then the Whore must have existed in John’s day. Yet the

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Why doesn't this article mention the Sumerian goddess Ishtar? She's a Babylonian goddess whose cult is associated with temple prostitution...

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Well for one your source is just a copy paste from a website that doesn't directly represent most of the texts cited. For example, look at

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sitting on seven hills. There are a number of smaller symbolic clues that some see as suggesting a link between Rome and Babylon — the

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But, crudely speaking, 60/4000 or 1.5% of the article should be devoted to that topic to be consistent with the guidance of

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Would a rewrite to "The Roman Catholic Church has not accepted this claim" be so obviously true as to avoid the dreaded ""?

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and I don't see anything in that reference that refers to the last sentence quotation of 'whore, drunk with the blood of

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is the correct adjectival form. But I like your suggestion of changing the sentence, and I have gone ahead and done so.

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Can we expand this article to include other alternate theories, such as a summation of the Eastern perspective, as per

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I noticed that there was no popular culture section despite the fact that the Whore of Babylon appears in the TV show

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And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

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material). Also using inline tagging for any part of the Jehovah's section that may need sourcing or removing.

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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is not enough to consistent "Most Bible scholars" as mentioned in the first sentence. I gave a reason for why

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This section also seems to be of fairly minor importance or interest, and is sourced only to primary sources.

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denial available! (It would, it seems to me, border on what TVTropes calls a "Suspiciously Specific Denial";

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https://web.archive.org/web/20061231171045/http://www.catholic.com/library/hunting_the_whore_of_babylon.asp

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WoB unless the opposing view is also mentioned in the caption, which would make the captions too clunky. --

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Additional: It is possible to correct that sentence's grammar without giving White's views undue weight.

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I agree with you. The Catholic section is obviously an attack not a NEUTRAL PRESENTATION. And why was the

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The article explains that it is about the Christian concept. Ishtar would be out of this article's scope.

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My point is this interpretation is also rejected by the majority of Protestants (who largely hold to a

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I think a good article could be written. But, many of the article sources do not satisfy my reading of

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http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&id=3343:mystery-babylon-and-the-scarlet-whore

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Our Sunday Visitor's Catholic Encyclopedia, p. 861 - states "This is a clear reference to Rome").

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202.153.172.99 can you identify yourself so perhaps we can follow the discussion better? Thanks.

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The Bible says "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT," which per

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but devotional (no comments as to their value in that regard, either). If it was something like

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denies the claim that it is being referred to by the Book of Revelation as the Whore of Babylon.

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before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template

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is enough to justify a redirect of "Mystery Babylon" to this page. Beyond that, we would need

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Why did the POV editor blanked this reliably cited scholarly section without VALID EXPLANATION?

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I found an interesting argument that should be included in this article, when a RS is found.

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I tweaked... "Female figure from a place of evil mentioned in the Book of Revelation... The

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in its military occupation of Israel, its repression of the Jewish nation and religion, its

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Suggestion: Delete the paragraph referencing the Soviet Union as the "Whore of Babylon."

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various sources, from major organizations that actually represent that viewpoint like

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Mystery Babylon and the Whore of Babylon - Two Different Things Yet Closely Connected

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Mystery Babylon the Great, the Mother of Prostitutes and Abominations of the Earth

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If the change isn't significant, why is it important enough for you to revert it?

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all concur that "Babylon is the symbolic name for Rome" and that Rome was the "

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Willfults; Google Scholar finds nearly 4000 uses of the "whore of babylon".

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The Fiscus Judaicus and the Parting of the Ways By Marius Heemstra, p. 108

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Women in scripture: a dictionary of named and unnamed women in the Hebrew

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Alright, two names but same subject. Thanks, that answers me question!

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Babylon in the New Testament, International Standard Bible Encyclopedia

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I wanted to ask a question, but first I want to state that I am a

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argue that in Rev 17:10, it states that the seven heads of the

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We could start an article "Female personifications of evil."

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It seems to me that the version preferred by 91.209.115.8

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The Final Babylon: America and the Coming of Antichrist

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