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he is inapropriately so cat. 2-The lead where his ancestry is described says "possibly Carib, Danish and Jewish". It makes it unclear if the possibly is modifying just Carib or all three. If possibly is modifying all three (which would make sense, since one should list known ancestries followed by possible ones to avoid confusion) than he should not be so categorized since categories need to be undisputed. 3- This one I learned from reading discussion, but doing so convinced me that I was right in my previous action. There is dispute about what
Leidesdorff's ancestry was, and the evidence of his Jewishness is not clearly spelled out. This ancesty is unclear for him, only undisputed categorizations should be done.
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Leidesdorff was baptized as Lutheran, and neither Leidesdorff's father nor he practiced Judaism, and his mother wasn't Jewish, it seems stretching it to emphasize in the lead that he was black Jewish. It seems more appropriate to write about Jewish ancestry as one of the strands of his
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I'm unclear about the latest addition to the Leidesdorff piece, concerning his mother's Carib ancestry. Is this questioning, then, whether Leidesdorff was black? (Because such a suggestion is ludicrous.)
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