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he is inapropriately so cat. 2-The lead where his ancestry is described says "possibly Carib, Danish and Jewish". It makes it unclear if the possibly is modifying just Carib or all three. If possibly is modifying all three (which would make sense, since one should list known ancestries followed by possible ones to avoid confusion) than he should not be so categorized since categories need to be undisputed. 3- This one I learned from reading discussion, but doing so convinced me that I was right in my previous action. There is dispute about what Leidesdorff's ancestry was, and the evidence of his Jewishness is not clearly spelled out. This ancesty is unclear for him, only undisputed categorizations should be done.
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successful man, but people need to be careful with the facts. Also, he was mixed-race West Indian, of Danish, African and Spanish heritage, not typically African American, although he became a US citizen after CA was taken over by the US. Before that, he'd become a naturalized Mexican citizen. He was not a US diplomat, but was appointed Vice Consul under Mexican rule.--
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mother was racially mixe and categorized as Indian in census records. There are some people who would categorize any Caribbean Indian as Black or anyone part African as Black and only on this basis in the absence of persistence on the part of his main ethnic racial constituents could Leidesdorff be categorized as Black.
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Compulsively altering Leidesdorffs profile to match interpretations which ignore the census record is not the same thing as his being universally acknoweledged as black. It is in fact doubtful if either he or his contemporaries would have so categorized him. In probability he was part African but his
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1-These should be in the same line. The way it is described in the lede makes it unclear if any ancestor was a Jew in Denmark, if his ancestors who were Jews were Jews elsewhere and either his Danish ancestors were on another line or his ancestors converted to Christianity before moving to Denmark,
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I've removed the more glaring POV comments and tried to introduce an encyclopedic tone, as well as adding more inline citations. Will be continuing to go to the sources to see what the facts are. It needs to be focused on Leidesdorff. This article is not the place for more general comments about
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His estate was valued at more than $ 1 million when auctioned off in 1856, but that was after the Gold Rush increased the value of the American River property, and rising prices lifted the value of the San Francisco property. When he died in 1848, it was valued at $ 50,000. He was still a really
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You are exactly right. William Leidesdorff's role in the establishment of the City of San Francisco is almost criminally overlooked, as well as his position as probably the nation's first black millionaire. I have tried to add some things to this article and will come back to it when I have more
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Since Leidesdorff was baptized as Lutheran, and neither Leidesdorff's father nor he practiced Judaism, and his mother wasn't Jewish, it seems stretching it to emphasize in the lead that he was black Jewish. It seems more appropriate to write about Jewish ancestry as one of the strands of his
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Leidesdorff was not Jewish. His father Alexander was born in Copenhagen, Denmark on 7 April 1778 and was baptized in Stockholm, Sweden. William Alexander Leidesdorff was born on 23 October 1810 and was baptized 18 November 1810 in the Lutheran Mission Church and classified as a castice
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Material has been added that is OPED, POV and lacks sources, as well as being thrown in without regard to sentence structure. Have tried to clean up the article, but editors need to cite their additions, especially on aspects of what was a contentious legal
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This is an example of an octroon I have seen her family pictures her father worked for a friend of my family who was my first cousins godfather. Someone of this degree of racial admixture is part but it is not a defining
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I'm unclear about the latest addition to the Leidesdorff piece, concerning his mother's Carib ancestry. Is this questioning, then, whether Leidesdorff was black? (Because such a suggestion is ludicrous.)
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Who is Wolf Leidesdorfer of Szathmar, Hungary exactly, and what does he have to do with the subject of this sketch, the extraordinary William Leidesdorff? Sorry, but this escapes me....
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Okay, thanks for clearing that up. Leidesdorff is almost universally acknowledged to have been black, which makes his considerable accomplishments all the more remarkable.
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A member of the Leidesdorff family in Europe - not a descendant. The book "The First Black Millionaire..." has a lot about the estate battle and various characters.--
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the status of African Americans at the time or in general. Also, many of the comments were inaccurate and did not reflect any familiarity with the sources.--
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10. Explain in details the main events in Williams life. In the correct order. ____________________________________________________________________
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O William Beidstorff died at age 38. O William Leidstorff died in 1848. O William Leidstorff died at age 48. O William Beidstorff was born in 1848.
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The reliable source in this case are the vital records not a feature columnist like Thurman or now Percy who does not adhere to actual history.
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All it says on the main thing is Hi. That is really irritating. I need to do a project on him and get info on him. But all it says is Hi.
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There is definitely NO evidence he was naturalized in New Orleans. Cannot find a court record, certificate, petition, declaration, etc.
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This should probably be discussed more at length, especially since there are claims of him being America's first black millionaire.
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b. __________- also called “brain fever”; a disease which causes fever carried by insects, headache, and red spots on the skin.
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3 .Explain in details, about his parents. (Hint:What the dad did and the moms descent. Also add in parents names.)
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a. __________- a person whose job is to handle relationships between his or her country and other countries.
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William Leidesdorff sailed first to New Hampshire, and then to the bustling port of New Orleans.
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1 .Circle True if the statement is true and do the same with false. True or False
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Since your excellent clean-up, the page has suffered again from inaccurate POV editing.
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We don't use charts, pictures, etc to make statements about ethnic groups, we use what
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2 .Explain how William’s land, was turned into the town of Folsom. Make it detailed.
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c. __________- a ship that has two or more masts and sails that are set lengthwise.
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6 .William Leidstorff was the first black, Please fill in the correct bubble.
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9 .At an early age William learned to, Fill in the correct bubble.
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____ c. William was born in 1810, on the island of St. Croix.
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____ b. William bought land on the San Francisco waterfront.
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____ d. William died from typhus. He was only 38 years old.
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O land owner. O President. O Millionaire. O Priest.
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