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741:. See, Windows API has nothing to do with a virtual machine at all and doesn't encapsulate functionality into objects. .NET is on the other hand not mandatory depending on Windows API. Of course it uses native API of the host OS, but that may be an API under Linux or Mac (as soon as .NET supports those systems), too. Furthermore, .NET does not allow to do all you can do with the Windows API, because some of the Windows API functions are (of course) not platform independend and also considered "unsafe". This diskussion shows there is confusion about Windows API and .NET. So in my opinion it would make sense to clearly state how different they are. .NET is no "Windows API Version 2". -- 372:
fundamental changes to the input and event models, reorganization of the fledgling Windows Registry, and the introduction of long file names. These changes had repercussions that required redesign to portions of the API. Some functions (notably many that dealt with window messages) had to be called with different parameters. To ease porting from Win16 to Win32, message-crackers and the Win32s overlay were offered to paper over some of the breaking changes. But most program required some changes to work with the new API.
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withdrawn from the market before satisfactorily implementing the ARM-level language. Turbo C++ became Borland C++. I owned all three. Watcom and Symantec supplied "memory extenders" which allowed Win32 programs to run on Win16 with Microsoft's redistridutable "win32s" shim DLL. I can't remember why I switched from Borland to Watcom but I think it was because Borland lacked 32-bit support.
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I saw a place in the software infobox for OS. Currently, I've placed Windows and OS/2 there as these were the only operating systems that were publicly claiming Windows compatibility. ReactOS, Wine, etc. strive for it, but do not have Microsoft's stamp of approval. OS/2 is debatable as it implemented
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I removed the citation needed tag from this section - it *is* generally accepted (I have worked on the leading reimplementation of Win32 for years), although if you wanted the legal precedence for this you would have to dig out the Sega case where it was shown that header files cannot be copyrighted.
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I've had a short to do list for a while on my userpage on what I still wanted to do on this article. I haven't had too much time to do it, so I've moved it over to this page, and expanded it a bit. Feel free to add to the list, or make comments if I listed something stupid on it. Also, for reference,
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The overview section currently lists categories of functions in the API, but I have two concerns about that. 1) Does not seem a good purpose for wikipedia to cover all the technical details of an API. Let the Microsoft docs cover the technical details and let this article cover higher-level concepts
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In my recollection, this is not true. Before Visual Studio came out, there was Microsoft C/C++, but also Zortech C/C++, Watcom C++ and Turbo C++. Zortech C++ became Symantec C++, was dropped by them, and then bought back by its original author and survives to this day as Digital Mars C++. Watcom was
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There is not a distinct "major version" of the Windows API called Win64. 64-bit editions of Windows implement Win32. It's the same interface. Even the "Getting Ready for 64-bit Windows" article cited to support the notion that there is a Win64 is part of the Win32 documentation set (and it never
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Yeah, I'd agree. The "Windows API" to me means the C/C++ and maybe the VB APIs, but .NET is entirely new and is no more "Windows" than Java is. The only parts that are really Win32 specific are S.W.F and some of the low level OS semantics. Maybe that section should just be dropped, or rewritten to
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As there is great demand on mentioning .NET in the article, I put a note about .NET into the "Wrapper Libraries" section. .NET wrapps many of the Windows API functions, like all application frameworks and programming languages under windows do. Maybe (someday) Microsoft will merge the Windows API
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For 64-bit systems, the API did not need to change in incompatible ways. The _ABI_ is different (pointer sizes, calling conventions, etc.). Details of the implementations may be different. But the _API_ is the same. The same functions accept the same parameters and return values have the same
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The article says that "Both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of an application can be compiled from one codebase, although some older API functions have been deprecated, and some of the API functions that were deprecated in Win32 were removed." The disappearance of deprecated-in-Win32 functions might
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The reason Win32 is distinct from Win16 is that the API changed in incompatible ways. For starters, Win16 was the API for an OS that used cooperative multitasking, but Win32 used pre-emptive multitasking, so there were swaths of new functionality (e.g., synchronization objects, virtual memory),
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For such a widely used api, this page seems to be a bit barren. I'm going to see how much I can clean it up in a few weeks, because I can see why the cleanup tag was added. I certainly wouldn't mind it if anyone was looking over my shoulder while I do so, since I am rather new to wikipedia
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Doesn't the .NET winFX unnecessarily complicate it? Pretty much the only thing they have in common are that they are "an" API and run on "Windows" (and the latter even is not fully decided). "The windows API" is the native one. The .NET api's are different ones, I'd keep that apart.
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Most of the tech listed as wrappers are not what I'd call a wrapper. IMO a wrapper exposes roughly the same capabilities as the wrapped tech -- just in a different form (interface). Just because one tech uses another tech, does not make it a wrapper. Consuming is not wrapping.
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These individual API/dll subsections need articles of their own, and should also be organized in part according to implementation (in/outside of kernel, "nt exec", some service, system library, etc). anyone have any ideas for how to do this, or votive to start an article?
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More specifically, you cannot legally copyright an interface, only an implementation (which the Sega dispute formalised in case law). Therefore because Win32 is an interface (usually but not always paired with the Windows implementation) you can reimplement it legally.
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win32 move and the introduction of a 64-bit version of the API. Overall though, I've tried to err on the side of too much information, so some of it may need to be trimmed down a bit eventually. Any comments, if anyone is reading this, would be appreciated.
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If a Windows program cannot be compiled for both 32- and 64-bit systems, it's due to a non-portable assumption baked into the code about pointer sizes or ranges of representable values—it's not because of an incompatible difference in the Windows API.
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that calls the ExitWindowsEx function. I propose removing it from the list to avoid confusion early on. We could replace it with a function that is more commonly used, as this function is not very commonly used by applications developers anyway.
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The compiler support section says that "For a long time, the Microsoft Visual Studio family of compilers and tools and Borland's compilers were the only tools that could provide this" (meaning the ability to handle Win32 headers etc.).
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I've gone ahead and removed the cleanup tag. I'm not quite finished with this article yet, but I think it has been cleaned up enough to warrant removal of the tag. If anyone disagrees, feel free to put the cleanup tag back up again.
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The API is built right into Windows, so if you have Windows, you already got it. But to have compilers you need, you need the headers and associated tools that describe the API to the compiler. This is available as a part of the
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Taking a step back: What is the point of this section? For example, it says MFC uses Windows API. ok. Everything built for Windows uses Windows API. What is interesting about MFC doing that? Goes without saying. Adds no value.
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I've used a screenshot of ReactOS, as a screenshot of Windows would not be acceptable on Wikimedia Commons. ReactOS, the 3 Windows applications, and the novel Frankenstein can all be licensed under the GPL without
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explains how to use Windows SDK with VC++ Express 2008. The Windows SDK, however, won't allow you to use MinGW or GCC compilers. Use the MinGW Windows runtime/api for an analogous functionality. --
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according to the article, they are in built in to windows. Just find a compiler that supports them i think. that is normally the case with API's i believe. 12:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
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the Windows API up to a certain version. ReactOS could possibly go there, if they explicitly claim to support the Windows API but I think they state something slightly different.
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Towards the end of this era COM appeared and assumed a certain binary vtable layout. At least Zortech tracked this change. I don't accept that COM is part of Win32, by the way.
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Wrapping requires design intent to replace all consumption need for the underlying tech. For example, MFC and ATL are not intended to replace all consumer need for Windows API.
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Suggest: Either remove this section or at least that these other techs are wrappers -- just list them as other Microsoft Windows tech that the reader might want to peruse.
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The Pascal calling convention was used because it saves on code size. That doesn't mean that the Pascal language was used. This fallacious claim should have a citation.
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I think it would be important to include a link or some kind of direction as to where this API's files can be found so people like me can start learning it.
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Rework the leader so that it contains only high-level info; focus on the non-programmer reader; move low-level info into suitable sections (after the leader)
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Yes, I also agree. I just removed a paragraph about Mono (mentioned as Win API implementation in error). .NET is (like Java or Mono) a platform independent
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Hey I tried clarifying a small thing in the introduction for beginners who want to learn the Win32 API but don't quite understand what it is.
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The paragraph with "communication among different Windows applications" seems to be about stuff that Windows API is not. Suggest: remove it.
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This is absolutely not the same. It is much harder to implement and maintain an ABI. In case you want to run already compiled programs,
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link "Windows API Code Pack for Microsoft .NET Framework is a .Net wrapper library for Windows API." no longer exists as of 2/10/2016
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Again I am not sure what you could cite to prove this in the case of Win32 specifically. It's just how copyright law works.
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add a short section on the anatomy of an average Windows API application, just going through the basic concepts, like:
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I don't think IMimeMessage should be merged here; instead, I think the IMimeMessage article should be deleted. --
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I think you'll find the Zortech compiler was the first usable C++ on Win32/Win16, before even Microsoft had one.
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I've added an infobox. I realize there are 2 things that may seem odd about it, so I thought I would explain:
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into .NET someday, if mankind persists on earth long enough. No need to diskuss that in this article. ;) --
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constitute an API change, although a citation for the claim that some APIs were removed should be provided.
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The person that added the stuff about the NSA being able to 'access our computers' should really read:
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Where do I get the file(s) for Windows API? Is it a secret? No web site I can find seems to know....
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That's not a bug. The colon after the title, before the reference, is the delineation between the
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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The history section here does not make much sense grammatically and needs expansion and cleanup.
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I completely rewrote the history section. I still have to add a paragraph on the big win16-: -->
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programs. The same API can be maintained over multiple instruction sets, e.g. x86, ARM and
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In the history section, describe/expand on transition from win16 to win32 and then win64
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/15/1216509/-The-MSFT-NSA-conspiracy-theory
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into .NET, but that's not relevant today. Maybe Microsoft also will merge the
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If nobody objects, I'm going to remove the cleanup tag in a couple of days. --
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is in the context of the WinAPI (everything from desktop windows to buttons)
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When did it appear, in 1985, together with the first Windows release ?
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Check the compiler support section for accuracy and add references
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programs. It is not possible to have the same ABI over different
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I serves source code portability, it results in being able to
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message based system with callback functions and everything
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tags. I've moved the colons so that it looks a bit better.
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Describe the relationship of Windows API to .net and WinFX
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If so, shouldn't this be mentioned in the article, since
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I'll bet Raymond Chen knows whether it is true. -steve
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Note #3 claims that Pascal was used to implement Windows
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See bug 9660 - this article shows a bug in Mediawiki
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