Talk:Torchic - Knowledge (XXG)

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article. It gives Knowledge (XXG) a bad image by featuring obscure and narrow articles on the main page. It may be a well-written article and a fine example of what every article on Knowledge (XXG) should be, but the Main Page is not the place for an academic class in good craftmanship. There is only one day more of Pokemon, but may I kindly request that you don't put such articles on the Featured Article portion of the Main Page. Why not find an article of interest and select it for immediate improvement for use on the Main Page? P.S. History of erotic depections was not a good choioce either, as it present another narrow and controversial topic. Perhaps a five-year old would see objectionable material for the previous article, but a college professor trying to see if Knowledge (XXG) is a viable source for information would get peeved (for lack of a better word) at the perceived pointlessness. So it's not a matter of immaturity vs. maturity, it's more of impressions.

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do with it, or it was contoversially erected during some crisis. I could say, "That's historycruft and only history buffs would care about such an inane article." I might be right, but it doesn't matter. Knowledge (XXG) is supposed to be able to provide encyclopedic information on EVERYTHING. As far as losing credibility, if someone is going to make the insanely illogical conclusion that because Torchic is featured, the whole project is bunk, then i don't want to have them here. For the person who said this is a waste of our time and money, i think that those who spent their time working on the article don't feel it wasted, and my donations to wikipedia have covered at least the Torchic page so stop griping. (i'm getting very sick of people who use money arguements for notability) -

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selected are of interest, unique and otherwise probably would not be brought to my attention. The Kengir uprising is a perfect example. To place an item of pop culture (and of a culture that is often ridiculed for its intensity and exemplified for the extent of its fan-base and fancruft that springs up surrounding it) alongside the relatively serious articles otherwise featured -- to name a few, ASCII, Caffeine, and the London underground, is to degrade both Knowledge (XXG) and those topics elsewise listed as "Featured" articles. Granted, there are other videogame and TV references, but they tend not to be as specific or asinine as a single Pokemon.

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previously to see if their arguments have already been answered. What makes it so damn interesting is that some of you are now saying that an article of "Pokemon character" shouldn't make it to the FAs. So please do tell me... who should receive the honor and responsibility to decide which articles should become FAs and which should not? Perhaps a committee of wise and honorable men (women allowed???)? Or how about some admins? Maybe we should ask a couple of the members of the Swedish Academy to do this for us during their spare-time? Or no! Wait! I bluddy got it! How about the man himself;

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seem to have fit better, that creature being the #001 among the group), but that is no reason to prevent it from being featured. If it is a matter of relevance to any of you, then what relevance is the "Definition of Macedonia" (relevant to only about five million people - far less than the number of children under 10 in the United States) or the "History of the Board Game Monopoly"? I recommend that you read the previous poster's link to "notability is not subjective."

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topics that deserve to be featured, and now we have given space twice to something frivolous. Once was perhaps perfectly fine, so I won't argue that something Pokemon related should never get featured, but to do it twice? Why not just have the main article for Pokemon made to fit FA status, if it isn't already, and have that made into a featured article instead of two minor subtopics of it? I feel that perhaps the definition of what qualifies for a FA may need revision.

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Featuring idiotic content such as poekeomne's or whatever the hell they're called is the reason why wikipedia is routinely banned from use at colleges. This site will never be taken seriously by anyone until the stupid fanboy crap is culled. Poekemenos are not worthy of inclusion anywhere at anytime.

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Now, as for whether this should be a featured article, I don't believe there is a debate. The standards for being a featured article are listed at the top of this talk page, and do not exclude this article. This featured article isn't quite what I might expect (whereas the "Bulbasaur" article would

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Here's the problem, it's obvious this article is well-written from the point of view of someone who's unfamiliar with pokémon, but if you just want information about achamo itself, there's pretty much zero reason you need to read "pokémon is a popular game series" or "the trading card game is ..." ..

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I can understand that viewpoint, but I feel that impressions are also a matter of maturity; basing something on first impressions is also a sign of immaturity, and I believe that academic researchers know better than to judge a book by its cover. Moreover, I believe that such narrow topics proves how

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The problem is that, yes, subject IS important and SHOULD be considered in the Featured Article selection process. Give a "Pokemon" twenty four hours on the front page of this website is just a waste of screen space and is exactly the sort of thing that keeps me from taking this website seriously as

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You don't think it's 'aka' as in red? That's what occurred to me. Um, I'm glad this is a featured article, but it sorta only is because it contains a lot of superfluous information that's irrelevant to Achamo in general, and belongs in the general pokémon article and related articles. Meh, that's how

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The article now is probably quite different from the article originally named GA over a year ago. Whatever issues caused the article to be removed from FA would likely disqualify from GA now, so a former GA status should not automatically be reinstated without a review. Renomination at WP:GAC is the

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Hi, someone brought up this article at the Village Pump, citing it as an example of featured article on a "useless" subject, which of course confuses the point of featured articles. Nevertheless, some people cited some problems with the article that could be fixed to improve it further. The original

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There is a time and place for cursing. This is not it. If you really do lack the class to avoid cursing, and you feel you truly must curse, then I'm not going to stop you. However, I ask that you keep in mind that this is a public forum that is liable to be read by children whose parents will not

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to come, write articles and to contribute. One great great great great motivator is that their written articles or contributions can make the way for an article to become a FA. If we take that away from them by stating "Na Na... that articles subject is all about jibberish rubbish, it can't become a

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No, it wouldn't. The fact is, information about my left testicle is useless information, except in the case of a very small number of people, mainly myself, my doctor, and maybe whatever female I'm currently spending time with. Similarly, an article on a Pokemon is useless information. In the few

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For lack of a better example, we could write an article about my left testicle. It could be very well written, including description, physical data, history, general behavior, public sightings, etc. It could be written exactly in the correct style, and be included in a WikiProject about biology or

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Once again, Knowledge (XXG)'s reputation (or lack thereof) is not based on the content. It is, instead, based on one of the principle ideas behind it - the fact that absolutely anyone can edit it at absolutely any time. You'd think that would introduce many many factual errors - or at least, it has

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well said. there's some truth to the idea that something can only ever become what people will allow it to be. I personally get annoyed when an article on some building in a country i'll never visit gets featured. The only notable thing about it happens to be a few famous people had something to

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The category Torchic is listed under -- Sport and Games, includes video game references, but they are general and, dare I say it, more appropriate than Pokemon. Starcraft, Doom, Half-Life 2, are just some examples. If it's not already been seriously considered for removal from the Featured Articles

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it is acceptable to use primary sources for descriptive points, and there is no requirement i could find at WP:RS that stated sourced material had to be solely about the subject. And as for your opinion of fansites, if a fansite is reputable, subject to indepenent fact-checking, corroborates with

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You realize that based on your arguments a good number of Wikipedians are useless. If Knowledge (XXG) shouldn't have any "fancruft" as you so liberally put it, then well I suppose all my contributions are null and void, as are a number of damn good Wikipedians I know. I don't know how many bloody

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The article on the front page should be something that will grap readers' attention. This isn't even a unique topic: "Torchic are one of the 493 fictional species of Pokémon creatures from the Pokémon media franchise." So we're not even getting an article on Pokemon Creatures or Pokemon Franchise,

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Do you get my point? If Knowledge (XXG) is supposed to be an open encyclopedia for everyone to decide over and to edit, then what kind of articles that could become FAs have to be indefinite. Because as soon as we let the subject of the article to decide if it should become a FA, then virtually NO

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If an article on a Pokemon character can make it through the FA process, then that process needs to be changed. In my view, this is the kind of spectacular failure that makes one question whether the whole Knowledge (XXG) project is worth our time or money. I'm sorry, but I don't agree that this

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by my count, there are only, at most, three people who'd benefit from an article on your left nut. take a look at the edit history of this article. you'll see that there are many more than three people who contributed to this article - even before it's being a front page featured article. if we

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are upheld for things in the world (churches, shopping malls, TV masts, libraries, city streets, schools, professors) versus electronic things which may have more appeal to Knowledge (XXG) editors (such as TV show episodes and characters, video game characters, game weapons, and game spaceships,

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reliable sources, such as main stream publications, which are about Pokemon rather than this specific one out of the 493 characters, or blogs or fansites which are how-to guides for playing the game and exploiting the characteristics of this Pokemon character. I was wondering if some one familiar

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is noticeably quieter than usual. Which is great, because it means I'm only reverting vandalism about every two minutes, rather than every thirty seconds. Perhaps this should be a lesson to us all to ensure that the next time we want to make fancruft a featured article, Christmas is a really good

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Had no idea the times in the history-section were UTC. So if your right then we should have a sh*t-storm comming in in about eight hours (yeah the time will be like 1pm in america and all the lazy vandalizors and pokemon-bathcers will have gotten out of bed :-P) PureRumble 09:59, 23 December 2006

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Obviously, many people are too immature to handle the Internet and such an excellent source as Knowledge (XXG) (due to the obvious amounts of vandalism over a pokemon, like with Bulbasaur; or sexual position FAs). Such immaturity, unfortunately, cannot be countered by sprotection, since we aren't

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As it stands, seeing this as a featured article bugs me for most/many of the reasons already stated. So I'll just state my agreement and move on. My main beef is that, this is the 2nd Pokemon character article to be featured. There are MANY articles that deserve to be featured, and many different

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To be quite frank, this is the sorts of things that make wikipedia lose credibility. The featured articles, displayed prominently on the front page, have almost always prompted me to read up on both their subjects and at least briefly on half a dozen of the interlinks. This is because the topics

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people to edit wikipedia. They'll say "I hate the featured article, and I see that many featured articles aren't up my alley. Perhaps I'll help contribute to create a featured article in my field so that it can be featured on the main page". That's what motivated me to get into the FA process. —

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The problem here is that those outraged by the article's status are too angry to respond coherently. So let me try. Featured articles present a first impression on those visiting the site. One never knows who is clicking on Knowledge (XXG) for the first time, and...sees a Pokemon as the featured

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Main page featured articles are never semi-protected or protected. That defeats the whole purpose of putting them on the main page. They are there so that people can come and edit them to make them better. Now, this article seems to have garnered an unwanted amount of vandalism. But that merely

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Do you realize how much credibility you lose by featuring all of these Pokémon and other fandom articles? Written well? That's great. Good Job! But please have a drink of the reality Kool-Aid before the collective hive puts another juvenile subject on the main page of the site. Maybe there

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Knowledge (XXG)'s featured article is set aside for what are considered the best articles. It doesn't matter whether it is Pokemon, ancient buildings, an artist, or a type of animal. Not everybody will like the featured article, but it recognizes the best articles on Knowledge (XXG), of which

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I was thinking that the current, protected revision of this article is appropriate. There may be some people who want to save the trouble of looking all over Knowledge (XXG) just to know what are Pokémon, or what are Trading Card Games. Giving some small information on this article that have a

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seconds I spent skimming the article, I felt gangrene trying to set in on the frontal lobes of my brain, and I quickly asked myself, "Why am I reading this garbage?" Then I realized that, since it had been a FEATURED ARTICLE, I had mistakenly thought it might be somehow useful or enlightening.

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I was a bit shocked actually. I rushed to the front page to check if this still is the featured article of today. I checked the news.bbc.co.uk just to make sure that america hasn't disappeared or something else that would attract the attention of everyone (especially the vandalizors). But no,

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Just for the record, I give up. No I really really do. That doesn't mean I agree with you, it just means that I'm giving up on this. I feel that many of the stated arguments are coming back and forward repeatedly, and I'm starting to feel that people wont bother to read what has been written

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Sometimes I think that Knowledge (XXG) is entirely too caught up in minutia. Obsessing over the all-important quest to replace a fair-use image with a free-license image instead of expending effort on the INFORMATION in an article is a case of failing too see the forest for the trees.

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Well the only significant shiny Torchic is the "Torchic Star" card, which features what appears to be a shiny Torchic, but I don't think it would help the article fabulously (the article would have to go into shiny Pokémon detail, which has very little to do with Torchic itself).

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something. It could have full, 360 degree images, all released to the public domain under a free license. And it could be completely focused, not straying from the all-important topic of my left testicle. That would make a great featured article, wouldn't it?

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is what make wikipedia lose credibility. and u name pokemon as culprit? pokemon have about as much to do with wikipedia credibility as pokemon have to do with george bush credibility and if u think otherwise, wikipedia really not place for u and u should leave

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Sorry, that was an accident - I was trying to revert it to the non-vandalized version of the page, but a Bot had already got it and I reverted to a vandalized version by mistake :). Just noting this here so that I'm not banned or anything, it was an accident.

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It isn't "fancruft" - It's a legitimate article on a fictional subject, and it cites the bulk of its facts. Also, and article's subject itself doesn't have to be "interesting" - but the article has to pass a process to see if it is well written. Cheers :).

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Not necessarily. However, academics and people interested in editing/learning are also not likely to be banking their entire interest in Knowledge (XXG) on what is on the main page. If that was the case, Knowledge (XXG) would have a low alexa rating. —

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The article is laden with references to primary sources for facts of questionable importance. How are any of the toys important? Nobody has seen fit to comment on them but Hasbro. How is the recall important? The only party to comment is the recalling

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So, wikipedians! No matter if you consider FAs being overrun and invaded by the unbeatable pokémons is a good thing, or if this is something that ruins your sleep late at nights... I salute you, for a good 24-hours shift! Cheers! *Raising my glass of

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I don't think it's a good idea for fan-cruft to become featured articles. How do I familiarize myself with the featured article selection process, in order to influence it enough to make only serious articles featured candidates in the future? --

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reinforces the original point. Someone will come and see how some jerkoff added "Oprah Winfrey's vagina" (Is that supposed to be funny?) and edit it out. I have my doubts as to this being the work of /b/, since they actually do funny stuff. --

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Firstly, that proposed policy/guideline (note 'proposed') is about fandom of real people (Edit: Well, I didn't read it up completely--skimmed it--, so correct me if I'm wrong-- 20:58, 23 December 2006 (UTC)). Also, you may want to note that

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Seriously, people joke about wikipedia being full of information about Pokemon and other utterly useless subjects. I thought somebody had somehow hacked the main page when I saw this article was the featured one. Are there that few suitable

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Our featured article selection is based on the quality of content, not the type of content. As long as the article warrents its own article and has a good amount of potential sources, it can eventually qualify for a featured article. —

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There seems to be a bit of a conflict about whether or not this should be a featured article, however please stop posting rude thoughtless comments on this talk page. I must be honest though, I laughed a bit when I saw it... *cough*

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Well this might scare the h*ll out of ya, but I can promise you there are maybe hundreds of Wikipedians out there whoms' ambition is to bring as many pokémon-related articles to FA-status. And NO.... most of them aren't below 10 years

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with the quality of the references could show that there are, say 3 articles from mainstream publications in which this character is the primary subject of the article. This is in relation to a review of how standards for notability

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This article was promoted to GA in March 2006 and to FA in June 2006. It was removed from FA in April 2007. Removed FAs are not automatically reassessed as GA without a new GA nomination. You are welcome to nominate it again at

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should not be Featured Article are really clueless as to what other criteria should be met by an FA candidate. It's easy to criticise, but to actually give a meaningful suggestion requires brain, which these people don't have.

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is that an article on the former is simply vanity. wikipedia is not here to boost your ego and that's likely what the chief effect of any article on you or your body parts would be. torchic, in contrast, boosts no ones ego.

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Currently the nihongo templates in paragraph two are incorrect, as the Latin text appears where the Japanese should (causing the strange font). However, there are two ways to change them, and I'm not sure which is best.

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People, get over it! Don't you think the world has bigger problems than whether Knowledge (XXG) featured Torchic as the featured article? Put yourself to doing something constructive instead of complaining about it!

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thing. The shunning of pop culture coverage and whatnot seems like an attempt to strengthen the maturity and "adultness" of a doomed arguement, which, in turn, makes the argument immature and childish, not mature. —

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This article hasn't been up that long and its already been vandalized numerous time. Should we consider semi-protection if it keep happening? I've made four vandalism removals so far in about 5 minutes

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I understand your concern that such word usage is offensive to some, and I agree that this is not the time or place to curse, but it isn't exactly necessary to edit other people's comments to remove such

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further assume that those contributing only make a small subset of the readers of that article, then pokemon is, hands down, more popular than you (or, by extension, your nut) are likely ever going to be.

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Knowledge (XXG)-combatants defending FAs on the main page from the evil vandalizors! Be ready! Arms up! Move to the front-line! Chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarge! :-) PureRumble 00:04, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

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There has been a lot of people here saying that this article shouldn't be a featured one. If you are one of those, please feel free to contribute to the discussion. But let me remind you about what it

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See, good! Now we have something good to discuss! No really, I mean it! This is something that I'm willing to discuss. I have already stated my opinion above your comments. I *think* the talk page of

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It seems the primary issue with this article is misplaced passive voice and singular/plural mixup, which is not a huge deal per se, and is easily fixed. I believe Axem took care of most of it. —

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wikipedia is great resource for stuff like world war 2. how does torchic change that any more than the fact that u didnt sign your comment and are an unregistered user invalidates your argument?

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game locations, rock and rap songs and CDs) and fictional things (movies, books, and the characters, scenes, ships, battles, etc. in them.) Your cooperation would be greatly appreciated.

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It is because so much of Knowledge (XXG) consists of extensive entries on trivial crud, that the so much of the mainstream (and more importantly, academia) doesn't take it seriously. --

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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE REMOVE THESE DISGUSTING IMAGES RIGHT NOW THERE IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE LOWER REGION OF A DEAD WOMAN COVERED IN BLOOD, NAKED. THANKS!!!! --ROB

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If I am guessing right and you feel that this article shouldn't be a featured one... then you can nominate it for review of its FA-status. PureRumble 03:37, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

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Additionally, this article doesn't have a single word on the creative process that led to the creation of Torchic, nor a single word of sourced analysis or critical reception.

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Which is my problem ; ) I've fixed it with the second version, thanks for the help Smur. (Like it'll make a difference since the walls are coming down on the stupid FAC ¬_¬)

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No, actually - people don't take Knowledge (XXG) seriously because anyone can edit it. Which means it's very possible that someone could put in incorrect information.

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header. I think skiptotoctalk is an adequate solution. I'd also favor intergrating the Nintendo WikiProject somehow...either to a work group or something.

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Badda-Bing Badda-Bong. That's it! No really! Write an article that fullfills those points and it has a great great potential to become a featured article.

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We should temporarily semi-protect the page. Those shock photos are very disturbing and I don't know what would happen if a young child were to see them.

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times this can be said; subject matter is entirely irrelevant when it comes to FA. Now please, for the love of all Knowledge (XXG), build a bridge and

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More likely, its 7chan. Or one of those /b/invasion offshoots that was created during the whole Jailbait crisis, but most likely the GNAA or something.

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Congratulations on getting featured article status. This featured article has a lot of references, but most appear to be either published articles in

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You need to at least to semi-protect it. I had to click "next 50" at least four times in the history to see an edit that was not on December 23. --

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article is encyclopedic or even worthwhile in any way to someone who isn't already a Pokemon fan. This should have gone to AfD rather than FA.

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Just a general notice: we are a mature source, so we have excellent articles for every notable topic, from, yes, pokemon to historical figures.

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I fail to see how this article could have possibly been made a featured article. I could name a couple articles much more worth the title...

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At least a third of the references (I gave up counting) are to poorly-written, not-at-all-analytical anime episode summaries on Serebii.

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Actually, it's only been about an hour. As for America, it's the middle of the night here. Or at least... really early in the morning.

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reference material, and relegates it to the place of a quick shortcut for getting an overview of a topic instead of real information.

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Ah. Anyway, if it is appropriate, you might want to use the content of this site to help the Pokémon articles on Knowledge (XXG). --

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I suspect we're also seeing a just-before-Christmas effect here, where people are more concerned with gathering around the family

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much potential to do so. That's why Knowledge (XXG) is not considered reputable - not because there are articles about Pokémon.

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Does anyone think it would be a good idea to add small=yes to most of the templates at the top of this page as is done at

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Hope you guys are ready to face the shitstorm that'll hit the article tomorrow. Me, I'm off to Nottingham for the week :)

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It is of appropriate length, staying focused on the main topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

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It is of appropriate length, staying focused on the main topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

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take well to such 'wording' (which might impel them to prevent their children from reading Knowledge (XXG) altogether).

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article will be. There will always be someone who will put up his Object and say that this is a NO-NO. If it is about

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what Knowledge (XXG) should become. The difference between Nupedia and Knowledge (XXG) is that Nupedia is a 💕 that

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Some moments I was thinking that this day would never come to an end. But here we are! Torchic is no longer on the

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then people might think we are Nazis. The holy pope? No No No No! People might think we are being sponsored by the

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universe on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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I'm not sure if I get it... you do want peace forever, don't you? ;-) PureRumble 01:57, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

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Can we add the shiny picture somehow (To help keep featured article?) I dont know how, can someone help out?

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It has images if they are appropriate to the subject, with succinct captions and acceptable copyright status.

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It has images if they are appropriate to the subject, with succinct captions and acceptable copyright status.

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The subject isn't controversial; it's irrelevant to the real world and the lives of anyone older than 10.

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Although if you do want to be involved in the featuring process for articles, this is the place to go to:

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I don't think I was clear. I was talking to the person who started this heading. Just for the record.

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Yeah, this seems to be the work of /b/. I agree that this page is some serious need of a vandelism lock.

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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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Of course! But not everyone seems to want it (they know who they are...and you're not one of them). --

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had three FACs. The community has offered stiff resistance to making these articles featured already.

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Reference #3 is directly to a Japanese-English dictionary, which makes no reference to Torchic at all.

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The claim of the origin of the name, a debatable linguistic analysis, is sourced to a Pokémon fansite.

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Just for information's sake I've checked all transcluded templates and they're all fully protected. --

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The only problem is that, since this page contains 300-over pictures, it is bound to load slowly. --

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Unfortunately, there appears to be some kind of Copyright on the site, but I can't read French. --

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I applaud Knowledge (XXG) for being bold and featuring articles like this. Flipping awesome, man.

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Was it you whom made that comment, "Let's rape Torchic!"? Rest assured that it no longer exists.

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Almost 2 hours has passed since the last vandal (if I'm reading the dates and times correctly).

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other independent sources, declares it's sources, and is stable it passes the requirements at

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Torchic is a notable fictional character because it is an arguably main character in both the

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You're one to talk with those vandalism templates on your user page. Sign your posts with ~~~~

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miserably. I was looking at the references closely, and they don't stand up to scrutiny.

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perhaps those examples would actually suffice, but anything more is unrelated to achamo.

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It complies with the standards set out in the manual of style and relevant WikiProjects .

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It complies with the standards set out in the manual of style and relevant WikiProjects .

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should be a common sense officer who has the authority to put the brakes on this stuff.

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But it has a paucity of reliable sources. Most of the sources are personal fan sites. —

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It looks like all of the cited footnotes except Gamespy, Ign, and the Hasbro website.

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Please keep this in mind while you discuss if this article should be featured or not.

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Also, wasn't the opposite, but in many ways similar, argument made a while back when

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can edit. If we started protecting every page on Knowledge (XXG), it is no longer a

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See...? So the only good thing is to simply state that any article can become a FA.

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Knowledge (XXG) can provide diverse, well written articles without excess detail. —

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Maybe it's just my pro-Serebii bias, but Pokebeach is kinda not all that reliable. -

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The fact that nobody responds to this message is proof enough that people who think

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Just LOL! That's a really good idea :)! PureRumble 00:50, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

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get enough influence to be able to oppose a FAC and have it definitely fail. -

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FA" then what do you think will happen with all those potential contributors?

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the shiny artwork for the first 386 Pokémon (including the four Deoxys modes).

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Mike, we want Featured Articles to be of high quality, and that's the job of

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It's unfortunate that the need for Pokepedia has eluded the Pokepedians. --

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Just because you don't find it interesting doesn't mean other people won't.

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just made an edit. You might want to re-read the whole article, Amarkov. --

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Vandalism over, peace forever (well, not really, but you get the idea)! --

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I meant while it was FA. I seem to remember reading that in its talk page

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So yes, I agree with Amarkov. It's about how well written it is, not about

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I thought Bulbasaur was protected though? Please correct me if I'm wrong

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It is well written, comprehensive, factually accurate, neutral and stable.

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It is well written, comprehensive, factually accurate, neutral and stable.

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Try clearing various Internet things, they were removed a while ago. --

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relation to Pokémon and its mechanics would be wise, in my opinion. --

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No, because I find it to be virtually unreadable, especially for the

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That's entirely unhelpful. Maybe try making constructive criticism? -

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a 💕, and was expertly written, then Knowledge (XXG) becomes another

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Um... I'm confused. It passed GA before, so why does being promoted

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If the American vandalwave hasn't come yet it is sure bound to. --

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nothing :-/ So how come? PureRumble 09:37, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

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Please remove and ban the user who put up the photo of the butt.

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Thanks for the information, it helped to clear up my confusion.

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Now if you will excuse me, I will go and continue my research on

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Many of the cited references don't even back up the claims made.

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if you think wikipedia is caught up in minutia, take a look at

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of course, the real difference between your left testicle and

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Bulbasaur was a good featured article, but this is just shit.

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There is a picture of Shiny Torchic in its Ruby-Sapphire pose

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I'm not sure if this is FA quality. I'm not sure if this is

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Indeed, M C Y. Think of it this way: if Knowledge (XXG) was

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Another point is that we want Knowledge (XXG) to encourage

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Featured articles that have appeared on the main page once

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is the correct place to present views and share thoughts.

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for a near-rendition of the first 386 Shiny Pokémon! --

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This article appeared on Knowledge (XXG)'s Main Page as

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Then it is obvious we have to nominate this article on

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A fact from this article appeared on Knowledge (XXG)'s

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to be featured on the front page, but now this is too

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it is about. PureRumble 00:56, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

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Featured articles that have appeared on the main page

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OMG Why did I let my kids do research on Wikipeida!

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