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Added agreed upon first sentence and new paragraph with a little bit of restructuring. Regarding citations needed for alternate names, the alternate names were added by the user who then placed the citation needed tags, which is a bit strange. There are definitely examples of use for both alternate
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The lead should be returned to its previous state "an inscription from the Second Temple in
Jerusalem". The term Hieron is a Greek term which is certainly not the commonname for the second temple or its sanctuary. A similar warning existed in Latin (for Romans) as well. The sources already in the
695:) 01:41, 2 March 2018 (UTC) I think info should be cited, and it should be easy to provide the cites. But as Dr. Smoo writes, I am wondering why Onceinawhile doesn't do that himself- he obviously has the source that used the other names, since he added this info to the article.
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Additionally, the modification of a cited quotation is obviously unacceptable. The cited source uses "the temple" as a translation for the Greek Hieron, though more sources use sanctuary. I'm fine with either, but in no way is it ok to deliberately modify a quoted translation.
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By the way, for full disclosure I started this article and have made most if not all of the substantial edits since then. I would much rather see this article reach a high quality level rather than have progress be blocked by partisan squabbles.
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So...you added information, then said that the information you added isn't properly cited, and you are now demanding that others cite your information for you. Is that correct? Why did you add information that wasn't supported by citations?
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It is also translated as "sanctuary" by the Jewish
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I can live with removing the translation from the first sentence, but then we should include the greek-to-english translations of the three key words in the
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So there are quite a few issues that were recently introduced to the article. Thankfully, this provides an opportunity to improve the article based on the ensuing research.
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Your question is wrong - you should be reverting only the pieces that have been objected to. We obviously don’t need explicit consensus for every component of every edit.
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If I reverted too much, I shall be perfectly happy to restore whatever is needed. Would you mind telling me precisely what I reverted despite consensus to keep?
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Agree with Drsmoo. In general, when a change is reverted, the burden of proof of consensus is on the changing editor. I have therefore undone the recent edit.
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Because that was five years ago. Looking at it now, I’m not convinced that the sources I see who use those terms are appropriately scholarly in nature.
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Citations are still needed. The template instructions clearly state "Remove the template when you add a citation for a statement."
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