Talk:The Monster Ball Tour/Archive 1

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seem to be understanding is the inconsistency. The countries listed (apart from the countries of the UK) are sovereign countries - countries that can be represented in the United Nations. England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are not soverign countries. The UK is a soverign country, just like every other country in that list. You also mention that the UK is represented as the UK on a global scale - this is a global encyclopedia and an article on a global event. What would that suggest to you so on the naming of the country in this article, going by your own words? Either way, you don't seem to see my point. I see your point that the countries of the UK sometimes act on their own, but this is in a very small minority of cases, mostly (if not always) in the field of sport. This is a music-related article. The UK is mostly, if not, always represented as the UK when it comes to music, for example in music charts and the Eurovision. Regardless of the verifiable facts that I have presented, you seem 100% set on enforcing a naming convention used in a minority of cases. No concrete reasons have been given for using your method, just reasons why we shouldn't go with mine. As such, I am going to request a neutral third opinion on this. I don't want to start an edit war, I want to reach a consensus. So, let's see what the third opinion says.

1961:- I was only using examples for comparison's sake. What is bothering me is that the table is inconsistent. Every country, except the UK, is mentioned as a single unit. This is not consistent. You haven't given any justification as to why this inconsistency should exist, which is clearly against Knowledge (XXG)'s guidelines on article style. This table could potentially misinform a reader that England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are four separate, independent countries. Though the number of readers who could be misinformed is small, it is still a possibility. When writing articles for Knowledge (XXG), we need to try our utmost to avoid misinformation as much as possible. If using the United States to specify St. Louis's location is enough (I hadn't a clue what state it was in until I checked), then using United Kingdom for Edinburgh, Belfast, London or Cardiff is certainly specific enough considering the UK is a much smaller country than the US. 1448:

Posh, Peppah, and Bang Bang prepare to go to the Monster Ball. After "Dance in the Dark", Gaga's car breaks down, causing Posh, Peppah, and Bang Bang to become frantic before Gaga tells them that she will take them there. ("Glitter and Grease") When she checks under the hood of the car, Gaga reveals a keyboard and then begins to play the opening notes of "Just Dance". Gaga then goes into "Beautiful, Dirty, Rich". After the song, Posh asks Gaga what the Monster Ball exactly is, to which she responds: "The Monster Ball will set you free!" She says that the best thing is that it's a place for her fans to go. Where the freaks ("normal people") are outside and she locked the door. Gaga then goes into the song "Vanity". Gaga disappears and then returns in a red cape with extended shoulders with her instruent EMMA and performs "The Fame"

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Peppah, and Bang Bang prepare to go to the Monster Ball. After "Dance in the Dark", Gaga's car breaks down, causing Posh, Peppah, and Bang Bang to become frantic before Gaga tells them that she will take them there. ("Glitter and Grease") When she checks under the hood of the car, Gaga reveals a keyboard and then begins to play the opening notes of "Just Dance". Gaga then goes into "Beautiful, Dirty, Rich". After the song, Posh asks Gaga what the Monster Ball exactly is, to which she responds: "The Monster Ball will set you free!" She says that the best thing is that it's a place for her fans to go. Where the freaks ("normal people") are outside and she locked the door. Gaga then goes into the song "Vanity". Gaga disappears and then returns in a red cape with extended shoulders with her instruent EMMA and performs "The Fame"

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like Wales or England should be treated as seperate to the UK. Wales was its own country once, so was Scotland. But so was Catalonia, until Spain took it over. That is just an example to show that if it's not okay to divide up Spain in this table, why should it be okay to divide up the UK??? The table says Cardiff is in Wales instead of the United Kingdom and that London is in England. This is true, but England and Wales are not independent countries like every other country on this table. As I said, the four subdivisions of the UK are referred to as countries. But they are not countries in the same sense as Spain or France. If you're going to use subdivisions of one country, you have to be consistent and use them for every other country. If you're unsure of Knowledge (XXG)'s idea of consistency, just take a look.

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Her gay boys. ("Boys Boys Boys") Gaga tells the audience that the thing she hates most is money and then goes into "Money Honey". Gaga then recalls when she was in jail and her friend Beyonce bailed her out. ("Telephone") A piano is then brought in and Gaga goes into the song "Brown Eyes", after whichc she performs "Speechless". During this song, she tells her audience the Monster Claw Story, her life as a teen in New York, and how she became who she is today. Gaga and her friends then continue down the Glitter Way, and soon they run into an angel, who plays a tune that summons a twister, taking them closer to the Monster Ball, but landing them in a strange place that they don't know. (TWISTER FILM)

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gay boys. ("Boys Boys Boys") Gaga tells the audience that the thing she hates most is money and then goes into "Money Honey". Gaga then recalls when she was in jail and her friend Beyonce bailed her out. ("Telephone") A piano is then brought in and Gaga goes into the song "Brown Eyes", after whichc she performs "Speechless". During this song, she tells her audience the Monster Claw Story, her life as a teen in New York, and how she became who she is today. Gaga and her friends then continue down the Glitter Way, and soon they run into an angel, who plays a tune that summons a twister, taking them closer to the Monster Ball, but landing them in a strange place that they don't know. (TWISTER FILM)

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canceled. Described by Gaga as "the first-ever 'pop electro opera'", The Monster Ball began four days after the release of The Fame Monster. Rapper Kid Cudi and singer Jason Derülo were confirmed as the supporting act for the first North American leg of the tour, while the band Alphabeat will support the UK stop of the tour. Virgin Mobile USA and Virgin Mobile Canada are the official sponsors of the American and Canadian legs of the tour, respectively. Gaga's production team Haus of Gaga designed the poster and the stage of the concert, including a giant contraption called "The Orbit".

1600: 839: 1979:. Countries and states are two different things. Your comparing two different types of entities here, which makes your comparison a bad one. Once again, the UK is a country made up of other countries, the US, Spain, France, etc are not. That's how they are different. Listing the individual countries is not misleading or an inconsistency at all. Yes, on a global scale they are represented as the UK, but they do act as separate countries on numerous occasions. Again, there is nothing misleading or an inconsistency regarding countries. -- 2469:

Fort Lauderdale is the major city but the arena is located in Sunrise a smaller area (once again sources use Fort Lauderdale.) So what does the community think, should we go with the major city that the source says or the smaller areas. I personally think the larger city is better, since that is what the source says and it gives the general public a better idea as to where the concert took place since the larger city is probably more well-known.--

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Ireland (though referred to as countries) are only sub-divisions of it. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are not the same type of entities as France, Poland, Ireland and Denmark, but the United Kingdom is. They are subdivisions of a soverign state. If they are treated as separate countries on this page, then by that same methodology we should say that Barcelona is in Catalonia instead of Spain, and Madrid is in Castille??? It's the

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single-date audience for the show, and larger even if we consider that both sold out shows amount to 110,000 attendees compared to the 66,000 and 62,000 marks on the combined dates for The O2 in London and The O2 in Ireland respectively. Is this too trivial? I find it gives some perspective on the rise of Lady Gaga and gives it a more deeper historical meaning.

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18. So Happy I Could Die 19. Antler Film (Interlude) (contains elements of "Fancy Footwork" and "Shook One Pt. II") ACT III: Forest 20. Monster 21. Teeth 22. Alejandro 23. Little Monster Film (Interlude) 24. Poker Face 25. Apocalyptic Film (Interlude) ACT IV: Monster Ball 26. Paparazzi (Battling a Paparazzo) 27. Bad Romance (Encore) 28. Fan Film (Outro)

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truth. ("Teeth") Gaga and her friends then find the Internal Fountain, the only fountain that bleeds for you. Gaga then goes into "Alejandro" while she jumps into the fountain and sings as blood pours over her. Another film is then played, the LIL MONSTER FILM. (See Manifesto of Little Monsters.) Gaga then returns and sings "Poker Face".

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own rights. Just because they are represented in whole as the UK, doesn't change the fact that they are still their own countries. Also, comparing them to cities is a horrible example. Country=/=State or state equivalent. Not to mention the countires of the UK still have their own subdivisions separate from the other three. --

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Calm down. FB's boxscore reports were not sent to BB Boxscore. Those few lists are frm the bubbling kinda chart for boxscore that BB has. And FB was not a complete headlining tour. At many places it was a joint venture with other people and festival plays. Hence MB is indeed the debut headlining tour

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Still the question remains, what other information is there available to expand the article? Madonna's sticky and sweet concert was also a special broadcast but it didn't receive a full article until it was a proper commercial release where all the broadcast information was included. I fear that most

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Meaning you need to have multiple sources to back up your argument. Not doing so constitutes original research and that violates neutrality within an article. Just because one or two reliable sources say "Chicago", there are hundreds that will contradict that statement and say "Rosemont". This is not

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Countries in the UK, states in the US, provinces in Canada, oblasts in Russia, voivodeships in Poland, counties in Estonia, parishes in Andorra. It's all just terminology. Countries are subdivided, and these subdivisions are called different things - it's a fact of geography. The thing that you don't

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Spain's regions and the US's states also have their own subdivisions - provinces and counties respectively, just like the countries of the UK are divided up into counties (and in some cases provinces too). That's beside the point though as I'm not bothered about how a particular country is divided up

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ACT 2: SUBWAY: On a subway, Gaga and her gang ride a subway to try to get to the Monster Ball, but, unfortunately, it breaks down, leaving Gaga and her friends stranded. ("LoveGame") Gaga tells the audience about her siuation, and asks them if she should asks her most loyal and intimet friends... Her

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ACT 1: CITY: The concert begins with the Jumping Film, which contains images of Gaga in the "Paparazzi" dress and of her smoking a cigarette as a club remix of "Dance in the Dark" plays. Gaga's silhouette appears on the curtain, surrounded by violet light ("Dance in the Dark") while her friends Posh,

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I have removed the tag. It was unnecessary to the core. The section just includes thed announcement of the special+summary+critical reception. Two paras that in no way would constitute a lumpsum article. Even if its broadcast in other countries, it will just talk more or less the same thing about it

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The tour dates have England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland in the country column, instead of "United Kingdom". I changed this earlier today to show United Kingdom but someone has reverted it. I'm wondering why this is? The United Kingdom is a country, and England, Scotland, Wales and Northern

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find the article is quite long and detailed, but no mention of cast names. while one realizes that on a road tour the supporting cast could change, the hbo special (airing may 2011) was a one-time event and one might expect that all major participants' names would be available from some source to

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This is deliberately reporting factual errors. Just because a city is more popular over another, doesn't mean it is to be ignored. As I mentioned on your talk page, I can find numerous sources for each city that will disagree with your opinion. The city nor the arena will ever acknowledge itself as

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Ok gotcha. But, doesn't Knowledge (XXG) like consistency? Hence how similar articles are all set up a certain way? Also, what does it really matter in the long run? We aren't putting false information into the article. It says country, we have the countries. It doesn't really matter if we don't use

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Your still saying Catalonia and Castille are the same type of subdivision as the UK has and that is not the case. Spain's subdivisions are the equivalent of US state. The UK is a union of four countries, each of them also having their own subdivisions. They are not the same type of subdivision, and

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I wasn't comparing them to cities. You've taken my example completely wrong. Catalonia and Castille are subdivisions of Spain. Barcelona and Madrid are their capitals. Many would regard Catalonia as a country in its own right, but that doesn't mean it should be treated as independent of Spain, just

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All I did was revert the templates back to the correct order (since someone else "messed" it up), and I had to undo your edit in order to achieve that, it wasn't saying you are wrong. However, England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland are not just subdivisions, they are also countries in their

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10. Boys Boys Boys 11. Money Honey + Virgin Call Gag (North American dates only) 12. Telephone 13. Brown Eyes (Worldwide Except North American Leg) 14. Stand By Me (Only on May 15, May 18, May 28 – June 2 2010) 15. Speechless 16. You and I (North American Leg Only) 17. Jump Film/Tornado (Interlude)

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How will we account for the constantly changing setlist of the tour? Though the dropping of Make Her Say and Fashion was easy enough, Beautiful Dirty Rich has been in no less than three spots so far, and during one slot (after Boys, Boys Boys), it was actually a remix. As it stands now, The Fame,

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For the past few weeks there has been some disagreements when it comes to the names of the cities. For example I have been using what the sources say (which tend to be the major cities) but other users keep changing it to smaller areas outside of the cities, where the arena is located. For example

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I went to the March 10th concert in Columbus, and instead of performing "Speechless," she performed a piano version of "Born This Way" (very reminescent of Maria Aragon's arrangement), and then "You and I." I have a video I recorded on my phone of the entire performance for both songs, but I'm not

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On a German tv show, she announced that she was releasing it as her 2nd album. Not a re-release, however she has since confirmed that the she will be renaming her first album The Fame: Monster, and that it will just be an attachment to her old album. Those who have already purchased The Fame album

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ACT 4: MONSTER BALL: Gaga and her friends find themselves in a dark place, and after some dialogue, Gaga's friends run off, leaving her alone to deal with the Fame Monster, a giant angler fish. ("Paparazzi") Gaga eventually kills the Fame Monster by using her Pyro-Bra and Pyro-Underwear. She then

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It has not been posted yet that her New York, Toronto, Cleveland and St. Louis shows were sold out 100% even when it has been said numerous timed by herself and their local newspapers that those shows were sold out. Since I do not have the power to change it I would appreciate if somebody who does

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The show in Arnhem, the Netherlands will not be in the XS version of Gelredome, but the normal, full version. The XS version is used this summer because Ahoy Rotterdam is closed for refurbishments. However, on the Dutch LiveNation website, it says the venue will be the full Gelredome. Can somebody

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ACT 3: FOREST: Gaga sings "So Happy I Could Die". Then the ANTLER FILM is played, in which Gaga says that she and her friends have been dropped off in the deepest, darkest part of Central Park. She then returns and sings "Monster". Gaga then states that the thing she hates more than monet is the

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1. Intro Film (Introduction) (contains elements of "Dance in the Dark" and "Finally 2008") 2. Dance In the Dark 3. Glitter and Grease 4. Just Dance 5. Beautiful, Dirty, Rich 6. Vanity 7. The Fame (contains elements of "Ghosts N Stuff") 8. Puke Film (Interlude) (contains elements of "Dance in the

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I'm tired of explaining this, it's just a merry go round. All I'm going to say for now is that it is not being inconsistent because they are still countries, you can't change that. Not to mention, when artists announce tour dates, many will still say England, Scotland, etc. Also, go look at the

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Thank you, Legolas! ^^ Yeah, I got a bit carried away for nothing. Anyway, IMO the term "headlining tour" might not be that clear for an average reader. Therefore, I added "and the first headlining tour" in the first sentence of the article, otherwise the article remains inconsistent and (IMO)

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The Monster Ball Tour is the second worldwide concert tour by American recording artist Lady Gaga in support of her second studio album, The Fame Monster. The tour was officially announced on October 15, 2009, after her joint concert tour with rapper Kanye West, titled Fame Kills, was suddenly

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Could there be any place to add a line that would mention how the tour grew up along lady gaga's career, going from a 15,000 capacity venue (Bell Center in Canada) on opening night, to a 55,000 capacity venue (Foro Sol) in Mexico City on closing night. making those two final dates the largest

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Thanks Sricsi. Points regarding the links. The first one is reliable, as from MTV, but it doesn't say that Lady Starlight is opening. It just says that Gaga invited her onstage for a final bow. The second and third one are not reliable, I'm afraid. Good news is I found a reliable source from

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Please change "your" to "tour" in the sentence "Jon Pareles from The New York Times said that the your always provided "something worth a snapshot: a sci-fi tableau, perhaps, or a skimpy, glittery costume. The more her image gets around, the better Lady Gaga does.", as it is misspelled.

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Gaga has had two versions of the Monster Ball. It is not always made explicit in the article to which version (either pre-revamp or post-revamp) that the prose is referring to. This needs to be sorted out. Each section should be divided into subsections with relevant information added.

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You have previously EW'ed with Blackjacks01 over this, and will probably continue to do so. As for neutrality and original research, I would advice you not to lecture me on them, rather go ahead and give them a read, because at present you are just talking nonsense. Provide me

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Looking at the list, the other entries in that column are all sovereign states. I can see no compelling reason to follow a different policy with the UK, and would therefore recommend that "United Kingdom" be the preferred term. This would, I note, also be consistent with

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They called it debut because Fame Ball's grsss frm each show was not even close enough to be reported to Billboard boxscore. There is no confirme4d gross even for that tour, only 4/5 dates that combined got reported. Hence Monster Ball is considered her debut tour, p;er

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And yet it would be inconsistent with the hundreds of other tour articles. Again I say what does sovereign country really have to do with it in the long run when we are still listing countries, and thus nothing is false? Everyone knows they are also part of the UK.

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The UK tour might need an entirely separate section, as the tour is being entirely redesigned, according to recent statements by GaGa. Should a note be added to the article explaining the movement of BDR, like many movements are explained in the article for the

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Should there not be some mention of her cover of Stand By Me on some of the UK tour dates? Also, the synopsis is for the 1st North American leg yet it does not say anywhere that there is a completely different synopsis for the European/Australian/Asian legs.

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in the case of these Gaga concert tours. No offence to anyone and with all due respect, I recommend editors to use their own common sense and source criticism... No magazine, no matter how prestigious or reliable it is considered, is infallible. --

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I don't know why it was changed in the first place, but listing Born This Way as the encore is super misleading. It was only the encore on the final leg of the tour, but the current setlist view makes it look like it was always the encore.

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There is more than enough information for creating another article, and more information will be available as the HBO special airs in other countries. There has been a huge response from fans and music critics alike. I we should split it.

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Ok, I read a bit above, the chick seemed to make waaaaaaaaaay less money with Fame Ball, but anyway: just because the all-mighty Billboard editors from the US don't know how much money she made with FB and consider MB her first,

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What other information is there available? Perhaps when and if the Recording is released commercially. Right now i don't think there is that much information to expand it into a full article. It would be too short.

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Not everyone. I know a lot of people who think England and the UK are the same thing and have no idea what differentiates it from Wales. I agree that "United Kingdom" should be used. What the other articles do are

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I saw the Monster Ball at the O2 Arena in London on the 27th February and I wanted to write a synopsis of the new show, but I dont think I'm allowed to as the page has a padlock on it...am I able to do this?!

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I agree this should be mentioned as she was there, I know for sure because I attended a concert, but can't find any kind of source that states that she was part of the tour. Rather odd for a 201 dates tour!.

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Changed Dates: AIS ARENA, CANBERRA - MON 29 MAR (previously Mon 22 Mar), ADELAIDE ENTERTAINMENT CENTRE - SAT 3 APR (previously Tue 30 Mar), WOLLONGONG ENTERTAINMENT CENTRE - MON 5 APR (previously Sun 28 Mar)

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Unfortunetly you can't cite your video since the performance must be cited by a reliable website, if you find a review for the concert from a notable newspaper that stated she performed the song it can be

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On Lady GaGas Page new dates were added... a 2nd date at Helsinkis Hatwall Areena on October 14 2010 and a date in Herning, Denmark at the Herning Arena on October 20th 2010.. just look at GaGas Webpage.

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Hey itss been confirmed that SPW is going to continue being Lady Gaga's opening act for the Monster Ball Tour all the way to the last show. Billboard magazine confirmed it themselves heres the link

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I have just revert your edits once again. I have the right to revert edits to the original article version at the time of the debate, which I have done. So I guess you're gonna start your ANI now.

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Lady Starlight has been an opening act for many concerts, including the Hungarian show last night. Some source should be found, because it's not ok if we just don't put her name on the list. --

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Lady GaGa cancelled the performance on January 15. Does anyone know if it is going to be re-scheduled? It is the only one out of the three cancelled dates that have not been rescheduled.

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I'd add a keytar link myself but since I'm not in a position to do that please fulfill my wish. Many people might want more detail on the keytar but are too lazy to search the article.

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Thank You For The Additions On The Changes Of The Tour But, Number 8 That says "GaGa didn't sing So Happy I Could Die on the 3 other days in NYC". She also didn't sing Paper Gangster.

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Ok, so people keep saying that they didn't start opening until March, yet there are videos and a few reviews posted before March, in 2009 as well. So why do people keep changing it. --

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You are contrfadicting what you are saying, so just quit the crap and stop reverting. We have had enough of this. Do another revert and I will personally report to ANI about you. —

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Also, I Think That You Need TO Add A Synopsis Of The Revamped Show. I Know It Will Be Longer But, It's Important Because That Is What Is Currently Going On Here It Is With Credit

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billion of other tours on this site. 95% of the time you will see the individual countries. I'm done with this for now. I'll wait for someone else before commenting further. --

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Yeah VERY good idea seeing as the show completely changed; I was reading this and it says she dies and I was like what the fuck I went yesterday and she survived?!? Must do (

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Why does is the first set list titled "North American LEGS"? That will not be used for the second North American leg. The current set list is most likely going to be used. --

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some English paper your are trying to fluff up. It doesn't matter if Chicago is more recognizable then Rosemont, at the end of the day, the arena will still be in Rosemont.

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Is it good to like color mark the shows that has already been, for an example, the past events with grey, and the upcoming with green? I'd do ir, but I don't know how.

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Lady Starlight has been an opening act for a lot of concerts, so her name should be listed. I've already written this here, but someone deleted my suggestion. --

2909:?? Alright!! :D What a good argument... By analogy, if Ray Waddell says Iraq is a town located in South Africa, so I can put that on the country's article... -- 2890:(What I'd like to say to Billboard: WTF?) It's clearly not her debut, i.e. first tour?? What does "debut headlining artist" even mean? This is confusing. -- 306:

Why do people keep deleting the interludes? They are part of the official set list. Here's a copy of one of the setlist from one of the New York shows:

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as Afrmx says. Now, if the tour is commercially released, then a new article is desired since those reception and background info will be different. —

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Must be edited that Alphabeat only played UK & Ireland dates during the first leg of Lady GaGa's UK Monster Ball Tour through February and March.

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Could users please remember when listing tour dates that Belfast is part of the UNITED KINGDOM and is NOT part of the Republic of Ireland. Thank-you.

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Kingdom. The clue is in the name. I will change the table again. If anyone feels that it should be different, please discuss rather than just revert.

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says that she will be performing at Wallingford, CT (Oakdale Theater) 1/17/10 and Uncasville, CT (Mohegan Sun Arena) 1/18/10. there is your source. --

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source/facts/verifiability else cut the crap. As for reversion, no the article should be the version before the debate started not after, so quit. —

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leaves for the Monster Ball. At the Monster Ball, Gaga asks her fans if it's the best party on the planet, and tells them to dance. ("Bad Romance")

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This is dreadfully written. Bad style all round. The introduction is trash and the synopsis needs rewriting in a different tense and in less detail.

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leaves for the Monster Ball. At the Monster Ball, Gaga asks her fans if it's the best party on the planet, and tells them to dance. ("Bad Romance")

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According to Gaga's site, there are 2 NEW tour dates.... 1/17/10 - Wallingford, CT (Oakdale Theater) and 1/18/10 Uncasville, CT (Mohegan Sun Arena)

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I saw this news too and looked at it half-heartedly. I think they consider it her debut because The Fame Ball wasn't performed in stadiums/arenas.

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Exactly, she once said "I love the show as it is, but I feel it was rushed and I want to give my fans something that has had more time spent on it"

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The current synopsis is now old, if a new one can't be found then it should at least be noted that this was for the first leg of the tour only.

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I just went to the Monster Ball on July 2 and you forgot to add in interludes and things of the sort. If you need help, please contact me.

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they say it's her first "headlining tour" and that they say the 227-million dollar revenue is a record for a "debut headlining artist".

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The section for "Recordings and Broadcasts" should be split into another article, there is enough information for it. Any objections? --

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sure how to validate adding information to an article when the only citation I have is my own, and how do we cite a video I recorded? -

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For the setlist of the first north american leg lady gaga sang Poker Face (Born in New York Version) but only on the New York Tours

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of this other information available will just start to duplicate descriptions of the tour itself which is already available here.

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Geesh, Knowledge (XXG) is like a headache :). However, there are other GA articles that list the four individual countries too. --

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Due to logistical problems caused by the strikes in Paris, the shows have been postponed to the 19th & 20th December 2010.

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I changed the location of the Chicago tour dates because they have been moved from the Chicago Theatre to the Rosemont Theater.

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Knowledge (XXG) articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources.

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Totally agree with you...been trying to revert a lot of vandalism but I am also interested in improving the article as well.--

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The biggest Austrian radio station (Ö3) announced a concert of Lady Gaga in the "Wiener Stadthalle" on November 11th. Link:

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can buy all of the songs from the Monster section of the album on itunes, instead of having to buy the entire album again.

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I agree that a separate section needs to be added for all dates since Manchester as both setlist and stage have changed.

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on bascally every website i go to it says that the "I Feel Love" interlude should be called "Puking (Desert)" interlude.

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Belfast is in the United Kingdom not in the Republic of Ireland, this article says the contrary and should be corrected

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Agreed, but we would need a new section. The article would become humungous. But who cares? I assume we should do it. --

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is a bad example of fancruft being added in the article, and should not be considered as reference for tours. Check the

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Just was wondering if you guys prefered it, if you don't then we can keep as is just trying to improve the article. --

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I agree, the current text on what the show is about is misleading. the 2010 revamped shows are completely different.

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confusing if it says "second" in th beginning and "debut headlining" further in the commercial response section. --

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A NEW DATE was announced on 95.8 Capital FM today as DECEMBER 16TH at the O2 Arena in London, needs to be added!

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Nice to see you back in the game Chase. :) You can merge much of the content from here, reviews, summary etc. —

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In my opinion, it would make much more sense to have an updated synopsis as the majority of the tour uses it.

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A second date at the Hallenstadion in Zurich is now confirmed on Lady Gaga's Webpage for November 15, 2010....

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are the official sponsors of the American and Canadian legs of the tour, respectively. Gaga's production team

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Personally I thought that the first paragraph did not properly inform who was the opening acts of the tour.

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http://www.billboard.com/news?tag=nav#/features/lady-gaga-s-monster-ball-to-gross-nearly-1004109755.story

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Seeing as the special of The Monster Ball Tour is Emmy-nominated, I think this warrants the creation of

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Where is this information ussually placed...I assumed that high end newspapers were good enough sources.

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Apparently, because Billboard says there was no Lady Gaga tour before Monster Ball Tour, we can delete

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Just done it, it really winds me up. Belfast and Northern Ireland are British, not part of the R.o.I.

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The synopsis is of the old Monster Ball Tour. A synopsis of the revamped 2010 shows should be added.

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because she did NOT perform it at the second date in Toronto. I was there and also see source ---: -->

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http://www.billboard.com/#/events/hot-tours-george-strait-reba-nickelback-1004091035.story?tag=hpfeed

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designed the poster and the stage of the concert, including a giant contraption called "The Orbit".

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Would it be worthwhile to add that Lady Gaga's current tour is apparently losing money? Source -

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It has been confirmed that Scissor Sisters will be opening her concerts in Mexico, im May 2011.

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The tour was officially announced on October 15, 2009, after her joint concert tour with rapper

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http://www.torontosun.com/entertainment/columnists/jane_stevenson/2009/11/29/11967326-sun.html

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http://www.680news.com/entertainment/article/76370---duchess-of-pop-lady-gaga-invades-toronto

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include in article. the one-time hbo special might even merit its own wikipedia article.--

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Well if the UK setlist is considerably different then we can have something like the one in

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http://www.gigwise.com/news/54033/Lady-Gaga%27s-Monster-Ball-Tour-%27Makes-4million-Loss%27

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http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1664768/lady-gaga-semi-precious-weapons-monster-ball.jhtml

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For the first part, there needs to be a source. The second part let me see what I can do.

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there is a mistake at the bottom when talking about venues its says the o2 is in Dublin

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New Dates: Rod Laver Arena - Fri 9th Apr, Brisbane Entertainment Centre - Sat 27th March

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Money Honey, and BDR(not-remixed) happen as a medley before Boys Boys Boys as seen here:

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http://www.viva.tv/videos/lady-starlight-on-the-finale-of-the-monster-ball-tour-657791/

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http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/music/madison_sq_ga_garden_oSO7B7CgmalhPUEfTrf94I

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Can anyone find any references to those dates, I googled them and couldn't find any.

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Either provide an official source else leave it. Blogs and fansites are not accepted.

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Unless/until she actually performs it on the tour stop adding that false factoid.

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MTV said the set list is almost the same as in 2010, pointing out the changes. --

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uses "United Kingdom" and it's a GA, so that's probably a good reason to do so.

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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http://cache.umusic.com/web_assets/ladygaga/site/badromance/default.html#bottom

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according to lady gaga's website, west lafayette, indiana was added on 1/14/10

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I'm sorry, but a wiki website without editorial oversight is not considered a

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can some add more of the box office score data? there's only 1 show listed.

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If you have reliable sources supporting your paragraph, then you can add it.

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Lady GaGa did NOT play "Fashion" at the December 10th show. I was there. :3

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would appear only on the first North American leg. Additionally, the band

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Fot Those who want it here is the synopsis fo the Re-Vamped 2010 concert

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If you have a source, like the booklet or something, then please say so.

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No problem Frous. You are welcome to ask me any question you have. :) —

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would be the opening act for the entire length of the tour while rapper

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http://ladygaga.wikia.com/The_Monster_Ball_Tour_Interludes_%26_Backdrops

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and plan to add more info later. Feel free to contribute if you wish. –

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9. LoveGame (contains elements of the 'Chew Fu Guettohouse Fix' remix)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Internal_consistency

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was confirmed as the opening act for her first UK leg, along with the

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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Third_opinion#Active_disagreements

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it is perfectly ok to include the individual countries of the UK. --

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http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5253/screenshot20100127at309.png

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Lady Gaga Presents: The Monster Ball Tour at Madison Square Garden

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for Gaga, the word here under consideration being "headlining". —

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http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1642603/20100629/lady_gaga.jhtml

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http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1642603/20100629/lady_gaga.jhtml

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http://ladygaga.wikia.com/The_Monster_Ball_Tour#Additional_notes

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I fail to see how that link proves other articles are wrong. --

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Change Of Venue: Perth Show moved to Burswood Dome - Thu 1 Apr

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I definitely think it's notable. I've begun working on it at

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If you'd like I could post links to the newspaper articles.

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True, but Knowledge (XXG) also has something called "

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It's not trying to prove that the other articles are

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If its not a major change in setlist like the one in

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where are names of band members and back-up dancers?

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the UK since the other four are still countries. --

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Paris Bercy Shows - 22nd/23rd October Postponements

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