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much like nitpicking. If nothing else, just know that I think everything MathewTownsend suggests is very reasonable. I too don't speak German, so I too can't verify those sources. :( I'm sorry to put you through all this. Mathew said on my talkpage that this is a delightful article, and I agree. Best
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Hello. Well, I had this article in my sights, and was just coming to start the review. Since you've already taken it, MathewTowsend, I think I'll wait for you to review it, then I'll add in my own concerns -- that way we save time by avoiding redundancies.
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