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didn't search for "Mabbett" and see no reason to - the notability is the publication, not the authors or coauthors, though for that reason, I see no harm in minor details that provide evidence of their qualifications to enhance the credibility of this publication. As for your search, 5.320 is not really that bad, either. Searching just "The Amazing Pudding" in quotes gave me about 11, 400 hits. I am not sure what your "grammar" concern is, precisely. All I am saying is that one tag is plenty and the other two are overkill and not really accurate. Article appears adequately notable, certainly more so than some I've tried and failed to dump. I have no real comment about the minutae of the article content, though clearly it would benefit from some expansion. Like I said earlier, it feels like there is a personal agenda going on here.
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and retract your remarks about "snarky personal attacks" and "a personal agenda"? Mabbett is an editor in good standing and I certainly have no personal agenda with respect to him (or anyone else for that matter), nor do I have any intention to be "snarky" towards anybody. I also know John Vandenberg
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Relevance is if these individuals have notability as writers on PF due to other published works. Doing a search on the publication gave me about 38,000 google hits, so it appears notable. As I see it, the only relevant tag is the COI one, which is appropriate, the other two are just snarky personal
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Personally, if there is a need for a dab page and both articles linked from there, I have no problem with that. I also have no issues with folks improving and expanding this article. So long as no one brings up personalities, either to ridiculously narrow a google search or otherwise to suggest or
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Your assumptions of our motives are off; Randykitty and I work on periodicals. I've been doing it since 2007. Randykitty is much newer, but their first edits were about periodicals and they have done a shitload of great work in this topical area in a short period of time. Articles about obscure
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more weight should be put on the first performance of this work under the title 'Amazing Pudding' than a fanzine from much latter. There may be a way to mention the fanzine in the same paragraph, but I couldnt find a way to do it without reducing readability unnecessarily. From what I have seen,
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and got 37,000-38,000 hits, The Amazing Pudding without quotes was not reliable (29 million or something, but many irrelevant hits) The Amazing Pudding Pink Floyd (no quotes) got 128,000, so I took a logical search suggested by Google to narrow it. I suppose it's all in how one crunches it; I
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What search terms did you use? "The Amazing Pudding" "Mabbett" only returns 5,320 results for me. However you have not addressed my question, which is a matter of grammar foremost - the 'when' introduces a temporal relationship, however the relevance of that temporal relationship isnt clear.
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gave me 37,900 but whatever. My point was that the tag-bombing was not needed and I smelled an agenda to argue this was not a notable periodical and so I simply did a basic search to show otherwise. Either way, it seems you acknowledge basic notability, and that's really all I was actually
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I tagged it because it has a lot of snippets of trivia that dont appear to be related to the topic at hand. If they are all removed, the article would likely be deleted. I would prefer to see if these issues can be resolved by normal editing rather than during a deletion discussion.
487:, not here. Further, why is it "tag bombing" that needs explaining to tag an article for notability if all that said article has are 10 references to publications by the editors of the magazine themselves and one in-passing mention on a fan-club website of uncertain reliability? -- 632:
hint that the presence of a certain person is grounds for tag-bombing based on notability, then I'm fine. Much better to just edit the article and make it better than to waste bandwidth here discussing problems. I'm glad to see some edits to improve the article.
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article that Mabbett and MacDonald wrote books on PF? Why is "Trueman also published the Syd Barrett magazine, Opel, before founding Delerium Records" relevant for this article? If Trueman is notable, this should be in a biographical article about
658:, Since you are banging on about search keywords, please look at your link above again. You had used quotes, but then somehow they were lost. They keywords the 'amazing pudding fanzine' without quotes has 398,000 results; when quotes 662:, there are only 5,500 results. Which is roughly the same as the search terms I used - my search used Mabbett in my search terms because any indepth coverage of this fanzine would mention the mainstay editor. 563:
long enough to know that this will be the same for him. In contrast, removing valid maintenance tags without addressing the problem is considered disruptive editing (which is why we have templates like
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https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=%22The+Amazing+Pudding%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=the+amazing+pudding+fanzine&rls=en
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Expand all articles to at least Start class. Some song stubs can't be expanded and should be redirected to the relevant album article. Use the "
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Why is there a 'when' in "Mabbett wrote the official programme notes, when Pink Floyd were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame."
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the title Amazing Pudding should be a redirect to the suite, and the fanzine renamed to 'The Amazing Pudding (magazine)'.
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This article does not yet have a related to do list. If you can think of any ways to improve the article, why not
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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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https://www.google.com/search?q=%22The+Amazing+Pudding%22%20fanzine#q=The+Amazing+Pudding+fanzine
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Personally invite quality editors working on Pink Floyd articles to join the project.
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around to 300 pixels (all "fair use" images), other than album covers (already done).
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to the subject of this article. Relevant policies and guidelines may include
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Expand all of the Floyd's studio album articles to at least GA status.
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If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list.
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to all images and sound samples (all except images already labeled
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In the interests of transparency, I'll note here that I have
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What is the relevance of the last part of the sentence.
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Well, I believe that I took Google's advice and used
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