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In my opinion, they aren't goth, but did go through a goth/dark phase from 81-82, with Faith and
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This article is pretty good, but still has a few issues that need fixing before it can be considered GA class. The main issue is referencing. It is spotty in some cases. Some sections are VERY well referenced, but other parts lack ANY inline cites at all. Please add references to the following
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i think something really needs to be said about the cure's *influence* on emo, though, because it's been profound. i mean in the mcr-sense, not the d.c. punk sense. are all these 'emo' bands not merely copying the cure, really? so, i'm going to add a short sentence into the legacy section and ask
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Now I know that this was probably changed to reflect the "Reflections" show lineup, but from all available sources at the moment, Lol or Roger have not formally been asked to rejoin the band. Missing from the lineup is Porl
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The deal with the lack of citations in certain paragraphs is that I, the main contributor to the article, have been very slowly working on the article, focusing on certain areas before moving on to other ones. However, the article was put up for GAC before I had intended it to be. Nevertheless, I
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I didn't bother doing anything beyond reverts for a while because the user's IP kept changing. The user claims he/she works for the band and has rationalized removing the material before due to knowing "the truth" about the situation, which really isn't all that helpful or acceptable per
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the information that the paragraphs report. Please provide inline citations, just like the rest of the article, so that I may remove the hold and add this article to the GA list. If the fixes cannot be made in the next 7 days, I will be forced to fail the article.
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Robert Smith rejects the gothic label. Enough said. '...they are not new wave.' How old are you? Twelve? The Cure were considered post punk and new wave in the very early eighties. Even if you're a kid, you can do some research and find out simple facts.
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I can see why it is excluded, but the case is especially strong for its exclusion since The Cure's latest album is 4:13 Dream, 4 representing the number of members of The Cure, and 13 representing the number of albums they had released to that
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Unless the words have completely twisted since I was a kid in the '80s (which could have happened, as it's happened in other genres) that novel is not absurdist. The protagonist's mother died today. She didn't give him an exploding cigar.
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I apologize too if this is not the correct way to intervene, but the style of the band's music is not Gothic ata ll. If you want to know, ask Robert Smith. He, better than anybody knows that. So please don't contradict him in this.
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First of all, it should be "songwriting". Secondly, this statement is quite harsh. While it is undoubtedly true that Lol contributed little to the album, he did contribute both in terms of recording and songwriting. According to
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I double checked the items and concur with your assessment. Along with the EL guidelines that you quote it looks like a clear COI violation. Thanks for taking the time to check things out and for posting your findings here.
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I've been contributing to this article for quite a while now. When I open the Cure's page, their always is a bit of vandalism, so please watch out for the vandalizing and block their account or IP's from editing.
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Forgive me if i've missed this completely but I can't find any reference to
Curiosity the Cure Anomalies 1977-1984 (the collection of live and other random tracks included on the double play casette version of
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This is a great page, but I couldn't help but notice that there is no references whatsoever to the Cure song "Burn", which appeared both in the
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I apologize if this is not the correct way to request. I would like to add the below link to the external links page; however, I saw that I first need to post it here for consideration. Thank you.
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has also been confirmed as an official member for more than a year. Should the photograph and accompanying caption therefore be changed to reflect the personnel changes of the past five years?
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The article now says that a new album entitled
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I made some copy-edits, but I feel taht the prose could be improved throughout. It is rather choppy with many repeated truns of phrase that could be improved. MoS compliant.
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In the part about Lol's departure in 1989, it says: "however it has since been revealed that he contributed nothing to the album in either performance or song writing"
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Trying but failing to sound unpretentious, reading the novel said nothing to me about absurdism, but did make me question, in some small way, the nature of existence.
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at the bottom of each Cure-related article, which, to me, seems excessive, so I propose that they be merged into one. There would be two ways of going about this:
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may never be a comprehensive and complete article about every item about The Cure. You need to investigate off wiki to find out whether these labels are in error.
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Look, I don't wanna get into an argument with a load of Cure heads who've probably been to the very beech, but why is the Camus novel described as absurdist?
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OK, just a few references need fixing and the prose could do with a thorough brush up. On hold. Major contributors and projects will be informed.
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alternative. that works! it is better than before when it said the cure was just simply a rock band --not really typical for a pure rock band.
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To address the cumulative sales total: these number are hard to come by and often aren't updated for years. This is the best we've got for now.
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1391:Thank you!
1160:—Preceding
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636:—Preceding
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212:WesleyDodds
36:This is an
1134:Revan ltrl
1070:4:13 Dream
814:verifiable
529:Cheers :)
370:uw-delete4
313:SidiLemine
1709:Ganpati23
1440:confirmed
1262:MarnetteD
1242:MarnetteD
1222:WP:EL#ADV
1017:Pass/Fail
898:(focused)
719:process.
717:GA Sweeps
675:call them
330:Curiosity
281:GA Passed
254:rbalfanz
72:Archive 3
66:Archive 2
60:Archive 1
1665:Option B
1659:Option A
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244:Rbalfanz
234:The Cure
200:contribs
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154:WP:WIAGA
139:Old talk
121:unsigned
91:unsigned
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1220:#4 and
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1209:WP:ELNO
1011:Overall
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272:Discogs
238:Last.FM
39:archive
1669:inside
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1597:WP:3RR
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1373:U21980
1357:U21980
1330:KaJunl
1316:U21980
1314:point.
1182:U21980
968:images
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941:It is
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754:It is
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393:WP:AIV
184:verify
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1125:Sales
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