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window Coke II still on the market, i would use this book to re-edit the wikipedia page and make it a Fact that this happened even though it didn't happen. but the reason i did it in the first place was to make a point about wikipedia, not to make people question what can and can't be trusted anymore and start a panic of people burning all of their books.
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I can't speak for those other articles as I've never looked at them, let alone edited. I stand by my rationale above, in that the narrators (particularly Starr and
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don’t have the narrators listed in there “Voice by” section, why do they have to be included? It’s kinda unnecessary. Because the narrators only did their voices when they narrated the series, they weren’t official voice actors for the characters. So why have them?
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