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1326:"She has been sharply criticised for the pedestrian quality of her prose, and as vigorously defended. In her defence, for example, Clare Hanson argued in 1990 that the inert language of The Good Terrorist should be read in the same way that we read Joyce’s ‘tired style’ at the end of Ulysses: Lessing’s book ‘is a grey and textureless novel because it is “about”, or speaks, a grey and textureless language: it is, surely, quite missing the point to see the drabness as the symptom of authorial laziness.’Unfortunately this position becomes harder to maintain as Lessing’s oeuvre increases and the leaden quality of the prose persists, regardless of its subject. The two Lessings – the tough and the pious – are at work respectively in The Fifth Child and its sequel, Ben, in the World. The Fifth Child is a potent and suggestive piece of writing, a recasting of the ancient story of the Fall as urban fable. In its own way it is as much a novel about domestic terrorism as The Good Terrorist and, like that novel, starts with the classic paradigm of the family as a microcosm of society. It is the Swinging Sixties." 415: 394: 21: 577: 244: 54: 1101: 1076: 1042: 990: 967: 945: 923: 891: 862: 841: 782: 760: 296: 275: 175: 75: 306: 504: 483: 630: 1337:, there is freedom to group the comments for and against, to note the types of criticism, and to observe that the book divides the critics on the matter. And perhaps Lowry is exactly suitable as a cited source which comments on the divide, and could be used to organise the other quotations and opinions. 1332:
Ask if you need to see more. Perhaps it would be wise to have a scan through other likely places for different opinions of the book. The question of whether the book is "leaden" or has "strong descriptive prose" seems to demand a paragraph, maybe even a section: something must be going on if half the
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behave in exactly the same way Richard E. Rubenstein describes what happens when "ambitious idealists" are alienated from the upper and lower classes." (.. said .. behave .. describes .. are alienated .. ) Perhaps this could be simplified, split, or otherwise modified? The "same" seems redundant, at
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On the themes, the first paragraph makes a good case for "House" as a significant theme. What are the other themes? Perhaps it would be wise to create a named subsection for each major theme, and to state each theme and the evidence for it explicitly. For example, is terrorism itself actually a
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I'm not totally convinced of the split between the 'Themes and analysis' (by critics) section and the 'Reception' (by critics). Sure, bland comments like "fascinating book" and "extremely well written" (see Lowry, above, or your quotes from Donoghue for a different opinion) are definitely not
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Would it be possible for you to put this nom on hold for a couple of weeks? I like the suggestions you've made and I want to address them, but I am quite busy at the moment and it's going to take me a little while to work through this. Thanks.
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I've added a new "Genre" section, using some of the text from the "Themes and analysis" section, plus new material. What remains to do is split the "Themes and analysis" section, which I hope to have finished before the end of the week.
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I think I've addressed all the issues you raised – thanks for waiting. Just one question: the awards and prizes the book won appear in a sentence at the end of the Reception section. I originally had it in a table
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Now to "mixed": it's an easy cliché. But it right in this case? Perhaps we exactly don't have mixing and blurring, but division into two opposing camps, love and loathe? (This may affect the lead also.)
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I've added "The" in front of the first occurrence of "Novelist X Y", the other two ("American novelist" and "British novelist") I've left as is – I'm not sure if you feel that they also "jar". —
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Is Greene the only person who thinks the book a satire on terrorists? If it's not "political", can it be satirical? Kuehn seems to think it is exactly not a satire...
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On style, perhaps "said she got her inspiration for the book from..." could be better phrased: Something like "said she was inspired to write by..." might do, perhaps.
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critics find the writing exceptionally flat, the rest exceptionally lively (with nobody thinking the prose is average). Without suggesting you indulge in any
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Straying in the opposite direction, "unbeknownst" comes across as twee or journalistic rather than encyclopedic: "unknown" would be sufficient in the context.
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I've split the "Themes and analysis" section into "Themes" and "Critical opinion". I'm not sure whether it should be "Critical opinion" or "Analysis". —
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Works cited: I've taken the liberty of putting this list back to a single column, which seems to improve readability of the alphabetic list of sources.
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I've added a new paragraph in the Themes and analysis section on "satire", which includes some of Kuehn's commentary from the Reception section. —
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I'm not sure if the construction "Novelist X Y wrote that..." isn't an Americanism; for me, "The novelist X Y wrote that..." is far less jarring.
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Am I the only one who finds that recent addition of an hyphen fussy, untidy, and unnecessary despite whatever the WP rule book may say.
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This is a British novel by a British author and it was first published in Great Britain, it should use British English spelling like
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I've done a bit more, but addressing your "Themes" and "Reception" issues are going to take a little longer. —
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theme, or is it the contradiction between anarchism and bourgeoisie, or just the fact that we all have
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They're all much the same, I was giving an example in the hope you'd check for and fix similar items.
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I wonder if this selection of reviews really spans the field? Perhaps it would be useful to look at
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Thanks; I'm still working on these sections – hope to have it finished before the end of the week. —
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on the book in the London Review of Books (Vol. 23 No. 6 · 22 March 2001 pages 29-30):
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I've (hopefully) addressed this. BTW thanks for the Lowry source, which I used. —
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Thanks for picking up this one – I look forward to your comments. —
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Happy to promote it. Well done, and thanks for all the hard work.
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Thank you, and for your helpful suggestions and patience. —
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Mr G. seems to think there are at least a few other books
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Excellent work. This was an enjoyable article to review.
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Lead: ok; layout: ok; weasel: ok; fiction: ok; lists: ok
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I've reworded – please check if you think that's ok. —
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