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codependency repeatedly sacrifice themselves over and over again to satiate the insatiable needs of borderline women who can never love them back. Jay Gatspy's high-risk lifestyle and chronic self-sacrifice is a form of suicide via proxy. He wanted to be shot at the end of the novel because he was in so much pain. Daisy didn't care one iota what happened to Jay in the end. She probably just bragged about it to her friends and labelled Jay a crazy sick fool that she barely had anything to do with. Daisy is an abusive coercively controlling crazymaker and there is nothing romantic about that. Knowledge (XXG)'s purpose is to educate people and by not conveying
Fitzgerad's true message about the lethality of trauma bonding with people who can never love you back this article is placing the lives of many men at risk. I believe The Great Gatspy is more relevant today than it has ever been but we need to understand this novel for what it truly is. A warning to humanity.
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Fitzgerald's masterpiece should not be read as a romantisization of the jazz-flapper roaring twenties but as a warning to humanity about the dangers of trauma bonds and mistaking Daisy's borderline-abuse for love but as a foreboding preminition of the 2020's where good men who are unaware of their
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