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comment of theirs is notable. Their reviewer ultimately passed that article. While normally gbook previews are of limited help in such verification, taken in conjunction with the previously-linked comment the body of evidence indication is that the article content is valid. I haven't removed the
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It is true the sockpuppet in question has a history of being untruthful in regard to claiming innocent familial links between socks, etc.; but, as far as I'm aware there's not evidence any untruthfulness encroached on article content or misattributed material to references. Naturally, I do
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Most of the article is about Andersen's sexuality; the connection between his love for Scharff and the fairy tale is only drawn briefly, and thus (unless there are sources that discuss this connection in greater detail) Andersen's sexuality is largely out of the purview of this article.
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condone their conduct. Of particular note, a discussion arising when a sock of the user was blocked previously led to the as-yet-unreviewed GA nomination being quickfailed. Ensuing disagreement led to an experienced user obtainining the sources used and taking it through a review.
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It looks like the copyright edits culminated in an article, that consists of two short paragraphs, structurally unrelated to each other (and one of those is completely devoid of context, which makes the whole thing look rather bizarre), can someone smart do something about it?
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I'm wondering if condensing the entire Background section into one paragraph and ending it with the publication of the tale would be the thing to do? Andersen's relationship with Scharff following the publication could be briefly summarized in a note. I wrote the article
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The article is neutral in the sense that it presents different POVs at different times; however, the lead and the background section discuss Andersen's homosexuality and love life in some detail, details which are contradicted in the last "Commentaries" section (e.g.,
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In 1857, Andersen was returning to Copenhagen following a visit to Charles Dickens in England when he met the handsome twenty-one-year-old ballet dancer Harald Scharff and the young man's twenty-eight-year-old Copenhagen housemate, the Danish actor Lauritz Eckardt in
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text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions must be deleted. Major contributions by contributors who have been verified to have violated copyright in multiple articles may be presumptively deleted in accordance with
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There are some statements that need references, for instance, the assertion that critics generally consider Andersen's stories to be rooted in his homosexuality. Could you add a footnote listing the names of some of these
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in conjuction with this article and think the Background section in all its detail should be moved there in a "Scharff and Andersen" section. I'll put my plan into action and look forward to your recommendations!
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Interested contributors are invited to help clarify the copyright status of this material or rewrite the article in original language at the temporary page linked from the article's face. Please see our
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Right now, the transition from "Plot summary" to "Andersen and Scharff" is a bit abrupt. I think this could be handled with a bit of re-organization - perhaps something like this:
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Bob Eckstein (available via Google Books) discusses the tale and contains information which contradicts some of the info in the article - it should be in the article too.
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In the winter of 1861–62, the two men entered a full-blown love affair that brought Andersen "joy, some kind of sexual fulfillment and a temporary end to loneliness."
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Disney's Frozen, loosely based on Andersen's The Snow Queen, features Olaf, a living snowman with an affinity for heat, unaware that it could potentially kill him.
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The only evidence supporting an affirmative answer to the question seems to be a "literal reading of the often overheated language of the nineteenth century"
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Since both stories are based on Hans Christian Andersen stories, could it be possible that The Snowman helped to inspire Olaf?
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This story is about a snowman who falls develops a romantic interest in a stove which his friend, the dog, says will melt him.
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Andersen and Scharff first met in Paris. The source gives no further details. I've rewritten the sentence to claify.
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the tale has been described as lyrical and poignant, and a complement to Andersen's "The Fir-Tree" of December 1844
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I've reworked the material with the focus on the tale rather than controversy about Andersen's sexuality.
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Mostly well-written. In general, the writing could be tightened and word choices improved. Some examples:
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The material on Andersen's sexuality is indeed out of the purview of this article and has been moved tto
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Hello - the changes you've made look great. The article is much improved. My remaining concerns are:
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Background (introducing the connection between this relationship and story, with citation)
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Five books are used to source the article. I've confirmed all exist by searches on
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Thanks for addressing my comments so quickly. And congratulations on your GA!
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Copenhagen, or on the way; if the latter, how so? Or did they meet in Paris?
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He returned to Copenhagen in November morosely and spent Christmas at Basnæs
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I'll come back in a week and see what changes have been made.
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I've altered the sentence, incorporating your recommendation.
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article dispute tag; the above though reflects my view. –
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The article cites only a few sources re: "The Snowman";
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where a section on his sexuality has been established.
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This has been changed, according to your suggestion.
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