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sections, especially because audiences are self-selecting and are driven by marketing and related expectations. In essence, it's been a lazy approach that isn't guideline-supported. There are certain editors under this WikiProject that go around articles of new film releases making updates and applying their cookie-cutter formatting, perpetuating a false standard. That kind of thing happens with the Rotten Tomatoes wording too, worded under the assumption that people in general understand how RT works.
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routine, and such sections are generally expected to summarize that. Sometimes a film has particular subject matter that draws responses from people other than film critics, and that can be its own section or subsection. A film director saying something about a film can look like a one-off because that kind of thing happens on occasion. So for referencing Tarantino, I'd rather see him grouped with other non-critics responding to the film, like
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and that filmmaker is as prominent as Tarantino, then such an honor merits mention. So, in addition to actually critiquing others' works, Tarantino deserves to be mentioned because he's a consequential filmmaker who is singling out this particular film. The man isn't an expert on World War II either, but the fact that he named
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is a film with a major legacy, I'd recommend taking that approach. That way, Tarantino can fit more neatly under the Reception section. Of course, if you don't want to do that, we can still include Tarantino in the article under Critical Response, because, as I said before, he actually practices film
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was his critiquing of films for customers at the video rental store where he clerked ("such a movie buff. He had so much knowledge of films that he would try to get people to watch really cool movies.") In later years, as a director, many of his published interviews have him commenting and critiquing
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Just a logic thought, no dog-in-this-fight. The phrase "Critical response" does not necessarily mean "a response by a paid film critic such as a Siskel or Ebert", it can mean the same as "critique". As to Tarantino, he's about as close to an actual paid film critic as one can get without being one.
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For what it's worth, which probably isn't much, I like your approach. I'm going to clean up the Legacy section a bit by streamlining some of the quotes, since it kind of feels like a disorganized collection of plaudits at the moment. I'm also looking back on the Wiki pages for some of the best films
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alternative titles" in the first sentence. From what I've seen, if the official title is stylized but the common name preferred for the article title, we usually show the common name then the stylized official name. In this case, the lowercase presentation does not appear significant (likewise with
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criticism. Sure, every filmmaker expresses his/her thoughts on others' films, but few filmmakers actually write movie reviews. The few who do/did are people like Scorsese, Schrader, Bogdanovich, Godard, Truffaut, Rohmer, and, yes, Tarantino. His reviews are housed on the New Beverly Cinema website.
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filed under Critical Response. I'd argue that a director, particularly a director who practices film criticism, merits mention after bestowing a superlative on a particular movie. Now, some film articles, namely those for highly-acclaimed films with legacies, separate the Reception section into two
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When you can provide a basis for your claim that a million articles here include commentary from other filmmakers in ther Reception sections I'll be more inclined to take your opinions more seriously. Until then, I'm having difficulty believing that you're arguing in good faith. I have to admit the
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I'd like to point out that there's an entire section of the New Beverly Cinema website that's dedicated to Tarantino's reviews of various films. Regardless, Tarantino is a filmmaker, and filmmakers routinely critique others' works. When a filmmaker bestows a particular superlative on a given film,
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I don't have an issue with referencing Tarantino in general. It's about referencing him in a way that can fit the article. For all intents and purposes, "Critical response" or "Critical reception" is about how critics responded to the film or how they received it. They review films as a matter of
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I think it depends on the film. For some films, the reception of non-critics could be included. Like here, how tech-industry commentators perceive the film would be relevant. Tarantino doesn't fit that. If a film had a mix of different kinds of non-critics responding to this film, maybe Tarantino
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I find it problematic for CinemaScore to be added to the "Critical reception" section. It is only added as an attempted foil to how critics received it, which is a garbage approach, like putting a film's box-office gross after its production budget. Audience scores belong in "Theatrical release"
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polls both critics and directors. Additionally, it is customary for the "Reception" section to include the opinions of critics AND filmmakers, especially when the filmmakers offer perspectives that are superlative in nature. Including Tarantino's comments would be in keeping with Knowledge (XXG)
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includes no mention of the capitalized 'U' in the lead as an arguable stylization; instead there's a section that discusses the title of the film. Of course, using other articles as a precedent isn't necessarily a good idea either; it could simply indicate that those articles themselves need
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I can assure you that I am arguing in good faith. Here's another argument for Tarantino's inclusion: the Critical Response section routinely includes a film's CinemaScore, which is compiled from grades submitted by everyday audiences. Everyday audience members are not critics, yet that same
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Include him in the legacy section then. There's little doubt the film has spawned commentary in the years after its release. But there are a million Knowledge (XXG) pages about various films that include commentary from other filmmakers in their "Reception" sections. That's a fact.
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This film was released in a festival on September 24, 2010 and in theaters on October 1, 2010. It looks like there is coverage about the film's 10th anniversary that could be added to the "Legacy" section (which may need subsections by now). Here are some available sources:
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Is there something you want to change in the article as a result? Tarantino is quoted under the "Post-2010s assessment" subsection based on a reference that quoted his thoughts (not an actual review). I think that coverage is sufficient.
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and your argument is poorly-founded. As Erik notes, there may be an appropriate way to incorporate Tarantino's views into the article, but I don't believe integrating them into the Reception section is one of those ways.
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My point is that Tarantino's opinion is superlative in nature. Limiting the issue of reception to critics is myopic, especially when filmmakers often play the same role as critics. There's a reason why
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Put simply: Are Quentin Tarantino's views on this film appropriate for inclusion? As far as I know, he's not known for being a film critic, nor does he have any connection with this film.
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Tarantino's reviews of a number of films are available on the New Beverly Cinema website. He's undoubtedly more well-versed in cinema than a number of paid critics, especially the guy at
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Hello, I would like to bring up the stylization of The Social Network. In just about every movie poster, the title is always in lowercase. Therefore, I had hoped to add (stylized as
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unless the opinion is remarkable for some other reason worthy of noting (ie, the person came out of hiding to make a remark, or the film is about them and they hated it, etc) --
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the films that influence him or his current projects. As one of the more celebrated directors, and known for his critiquing, his opinion may count more? But perhaps as
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I added this info for the editor's discussing it, including yourself. I thought it was relevant to the conversation. Personally I don't care if it's included or not.
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In any case, here is another possible solution. I've changed "Impact" to "Legacy", and doing a little more research, I am seeing some periodicals talk about
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his second favorite film of the decade is mentioned in the article for that page (and rightfully so). The same goes for David Lynch's love of
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fact that your account is less than a day old also doesn't fill me with confidence. Of course, even if you are arguing in good faith,
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tradition. And if you find other prominent filmmakers who've commented on the film or spoken highly of it, then include them, too.
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as among the best of the 2010s, in the same vein that Tarantino did. So such references could be combined into a solid paragraph.
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uppercase). We would need to see at least some reliable sources write the title that way. This logic should apply to
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to include Tarantino's comments. We don't want to suggest than any filmmaker's opinion is worth noting. --
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I don't currently have an opinion on when discussing a stylized title is merited, but I would note that
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that combines several different sources discussing the film as part of the decade. Thoughts? Pinging
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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between
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In general we don't say a film's name is stylized based on how it appears on a poster. See
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as I misspelled the name on my first response. Please see above comment. Thank you.
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new sections: (1) Box Office and Distribution and (2) Reception and Legacy. Since
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Ten Years Later, Mark Zuckerberg Is Still Trying to Overcome ‘The Social Network’
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While I don't believe WikiProject Film has any guidelines on stylization,
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opinion, or one with detail, rather than just one singing praises? Eg.
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I did so above. But feel free to peruse the Knowledge (XXG) pages for
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include a source supporting its stylized title. On the other hand,
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about whether Tarantino is "more well-versed" than paid critics. --
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could be in that mix. To just include him would seem misplaced.
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I really hope it isn't too late for me to jump in, by the way.
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I added content to "Legacy" as seen in the last two paragraphs
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I'm sure many directors have opinions about other films.
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Did you know ... that the first scene of the 2010 film
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