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534:"It faced Industry, another gay nightclub located directly across the street". As I read the first two words, I expected, "It faced financial trouble", or "it faced community opposition", or something like that and then it was a surprise when the sentence went in another direction. How about, "It was directly across the street from another gay nightclub, Industry." 53: 924: 855: 756: 620: 540: 507: 473: 415: 382: 347: 314: 376:"Prior to its closure in March 2020 due to the COVID-19 pandemic, it hosted frequent drag shows", well, it didn't host them after it closed, so just start the sentence with, "It hosted frequent...". Break out the rest as another sentence: "It closed in March...", or maybe, "It went out of business in March..." 409:"off-duty Broadway actors", leave off the "off-duty". Surely they weren't frequenting the bar while performing on stage, so obviously they were off-duty. In any case, "off-duty" makes me think of policeman, fireman, etc. It seems like an odd way to describe an actor who's not on stage at the moment. 647:"Therapy closed temporarily in 2019 due to structural issues", make this start a new paragraph, the second sentence of which will be, "It reopened (whatever amount of time later) when (whatever was complete)". This sets up the logical flow of "it closed, it reopened, it closed again" 594:"As of" is true in the time frame that follows the phrase; there's no implication that it is the present. I used "as of" here because the show schedule can change over time, so we don't know if this claim was still true through the end of the club's operation. 591:"As of mid-2019", the "as of" qualifier usually implies something that's true now, but might not be true in the future. Given that they're closed, that doesn't really make sense here. It might be OK, but maybe there's a better way to phrase that. Your call. 1048:, I don't feel super strongly about this, but from a logical standpoint, I think it is appropriate to keep it as a level-3 header since it is indeed part of the club's history. I could live with changing it if you do find it important. I wonder what 614:"Of Stage Fright, the Monday-night drag show..." break this up into two sentences. Something like, "Stage Fright was a regular monday-night drag show hosted by Gould Cummings. Melissa Kravitz Hoeffner of Thrillist wrote of it, ...." 1032:
Another thought, maybe bump "COVID-19 pandemic and closure" up to a level-2 heading like all the others. I suppose it's technically a part of the history, but I think it would read better will all the headings at the same level. --
256:, Sure! I just knocked a few off the list, but please go ahead and feel free to do a first pass as you see fit. I'm at work and won't be editing for a few hours. Thanks for coordinating! -- 918:. It's not a great photo, and I don't think it adds anything to the article. The one in the infobox adequately shows what the exterior looks like (I also tweaked the exposure a bit). 58: 568:"its interior had", or even just, "it had", since this the description is obviously not of the exterior. Or, if you prefer, "Time Out New York characterized its interior as..." 137: 909:
The images all look appropriately licensed. I'm not an expert on fair use, but I'm taking it on faith that the logo is appropriately low-res to fit our requirements.
91: 133: 444:"sometimes participated in that evening's show", they weren't participating in some other evening's show, so just "sometimes participated in shows" is enough. 81: 63: 118: 467:"stated that it was unlikely to reopen", either "stated that he was unlikely to reopen", or "state that the club was unlikely to reopen" works better. 110: 915: 422:
I've removed "off-duty". I'm not opposed to replacing with another word or phrase, but I agree "off-duty" doesn't seem quite right. ---
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to the NYC version. Um, wait, is there one? There's establishments in NYC, but no disestablishments in NYC? Am I reading that right?
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845:"the 16 best LGBTQ bars in New York City", I'm not sure if it's correct to do inside of a direct quote, but maybe link to 750:"which required demolition", clarify that it was the adjacent building that was demolished, not the one Therapy occupied. 126: 17: 1093: 870: 430: 362: 264: 197: 1125: 1059: 1002: 974: 938: 896: 832: 805: 770: 731: 713: 691: 661: 634: 601: 578: 554: 521: 487: 454: 396: 328: 286: 242: 220: 103: 1086: 1049: 863: 423: 355: 276: 257: 232: 190: 650:
Unfortunately, the sources don't indicate when exactly it reopened. Could probably pull that info from
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I guess I don't mind making a change here, but the alternatives proposed strike me as disimprovements.
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I have no problem with the occasional primary source to support a factual statement like this. --
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Earwig doesn't find anything other than the direct quotes, all of which look appropriately cited.
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Most of these are just suggestions. Feel free to push back on any that don't make sense to you.
180: 161: 308:"bilevel gay bar", unless bilevel is a double-entendre, I think "two story" would work better. 651: 788: 1143: 1131: 1100: 1077: 1065: 1040: 1026: 1008: 980: 944: 902: 877: 838: 811: 776: 737: 719: 697: 679: 667: 640: 607: 584: 560: 527: 493: 460: 437: 402: 369: 334: 292: 271: 248: 226: 204: 183: 171: 1019:
That does it for me. Please ping me when you've worked through all your revisions. --
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I believe we're finished with the revisions. Anything else you'd like done?
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I've linked LGBTQ and removed the direct quote. This can be paraphrased. ---
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sources (i.e. the club's social media), though. Would that be fine?
213:, and thanks for taking this on! I will go through the article now. 846: 447:
Reworded in a different way while rewriting for the change above.
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I'm good, I've marked this as passing GA. Good job, guys. --
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https://www.gaycitynews.com/therapy-temporarily-closes/
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That's my first pass, I'll save this for the moment.
501:"Therapy was on", or maybe "Therapy was located on"? 1085:, I'd prefer to leave as subsection of History. --- 822:"cocktailcentric" is that intentionally one word? 987:2020 disestablishments in New York (state) -: --> 993:Category:2020 disestablishments in New York City 8: 1070:It was just an idea, I'm OK either way. -- 341:link "drag show" the first time it's used. 567:"its interior was characterized by" -: --> 41: 72: 44: 825:That's how it appears in the source. 7: 916:File:Therapy Bar 348 W52 (1) jeh.jpg 33:The following discussion is closed. 24: 889:Thank you for the review so far! 1151:The discussion above is closed. 955:? Looks more like a blog to me. 922: 853: 754: 618: 538: 505: 500:"Therapy was situated on" -: --> 471: 413: 380: 345: 312: 991:Unfortunately, yes. 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