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Systems — and many others). But English is not my mother language and I would not dare risk myself in writing in the page itself. I leave that to others.
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nine. The researcher then tells the person to say the same number, an action that appears in another part of the brain, the parietal region. "By looking at the collective data, we know that when this person thinks of the number nine or says the number nine, this is how it appears in the brain, providing a fingerprint, or what we call a brainprint," Norseen offers.
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I have been professionally concerned with assistive technology for people with a physical disability in the ’90s. At that time, pointing devices based on thought were already commercially available. The section on that subject here gives the confusing and unfair impression that Emotiv
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I still don't think he should get any mention at all here. Merely being an engineer at
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I have added a history and future page to the research of thought identification to put the information in chronological order to allow the users to read and understand better. Also, I updated some of the ethical issues and examples of thought identification I thought were prevalent in today's
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The two users above are actively involved in reverting my edits out of spite. They have been conspiring on ANI:Fringe as well as multiple other forums to appear to be holding "actual discussion" of material, when in fact they know each other, and their sole purpose is removing information I
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society. A lot of this information came from watching and reading extensively about the 60 minutes study done about this topic. It had been awhile seen this page was last updated, and I believe there were many new findings important to make known on this subject.--
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The problem is that the military keep projects very secret. Even if there are some amazing breakthroughs (and I'm not saying there are) then there would not be enough evidence for us to put anything on
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claims that far surpass modern understandings of the brain. Again, I'm not certain he is mistaken. For every 100 independent researcher saying they've made a scientific breakthrough — one actually has, and it could be
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Above all I'm sorry to see so much frustration. Glad the talk page is getting use, even if the main page was seeing too much action during discussions... But
Damonthesis' passion is admirable, and both Louie's seem to be careful skeptics.
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Norseen shares that the defense industry is interested because this type of data is culturally independent information. Worldwide, most individuals process certain information in the same regions of the
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At least, not until there are many more, bigger, better sources to justify posting such amazing claims (since amazing claims are so often exaggerations or speculation).
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