Talk:Tlingit - Knowledge

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and Usyvdi et al want to talk about is NCL....and me...targeting me as a tactic was noted in last year's RM and you were dressed down for it, and those precedents re people-names you continue to ignore as if they did not happen...as if they did not exist....why try to have a discussion with a group that persistently insults me and misrepresents what I have said, conflates criticism of the guideline and conduct related to it as personal attacks, while continuing their own attacks against me? Your nastiness at NCET, and here, is just part of a long hostility towadrs me being in your way; it is you and your "followers" who do not know how to have, nor want to have, a "proper discussion". What is wrong with NCL is clear as glass and should be changed

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spelling comes from many online scholars using outdated material and sources which have proven to be factually and functionally useless. Lingít (or Łingít for slightly older variation) is the correct way of writing the word and is spoken accurately by Tlingit speakers with a soft airy “L” boarding “th”. Tlingit is the English spelling and is pronounced “klink-it” and I believe originated from Russian documents on the name. The altered tlinkit is a alteration as the “g” is very hard and could be mistaken for a k by some. TLDR; Lingít is how you write it in the traditional language, Tlingit is the English writing, tlinkit is a poor English variant, and it’s pronounced Klink-it to English speakers

998:) 04:53, 19 January 2014 (UTC) The details of the pronunciation, as I was informed personally by Gill Story are: The first "l" is, in fact, a voiceless fricative, equal to that with which the Welsh "ll" begins; the "n" in the middle is a genuine alveolar n, velar pronunciation being absent (difficult for most Europeans to do, Turkish speakers being an exception). The "k", if it is a k and not a g (She did not draws my attention to whether it is voiced or voiceless), is totally unaspirated. I'm not sure whether the final "t" is released, but I would think so, in which case it should have been th or, for purists, t followed by t with the circle on top. 516: 1624:

in the futile hope that meaningful reform is possible there, I'll take this up with the WP:NMET crowd whose guidelines are more "open" than the closed world of the laager-mentality I'm getting weary of here; wearing me out was part of last year's game too, I remember....but sane, informed people helped close that to a meaningful consensus respectful of both native-preferred terms (without "people") and to Canadian English. I didn't do parallel RMs on the language articles there, but in

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considered at the “intermediate” level or higher according to ACTFL scales. There are probably only 10 speakers remaining who could be considered fully fluent and capable of higher forms of speaking, and most of them are over 70 years old." Twitchell, X. L. (2018). For our little grandchildren: Language revitalization among the Tlingit (Unpublished doctoral dissertation). University of Hawai'i, Hilo, Hawai'i.

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alphabet chart is necessary, but just saying how many letters and the different parts of the mouth used to pronounce things would be information many would find interesting. The language section is small and I think that it could be expanded a bit more. Reference: BEING AND PLACE AMONG THE TLINGIT, By: Thomas F. Thornton

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I think your suggested addition of some information about the "alphabet" drawn from the Thornton source would be a great place to start. Also you might see if you can locate any information in the Thornton book that could verify the information included in the first paragraph of the language section

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without the need for more bafflegab and evasion, and ongoing sniping and derision and evasion by counterattack and insults towards my personality and writing style; not about the issues; all you and your kind want to talk about is the guideline you know now needs fixing and you.....want me to come to

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and your behaviour and regularly hostile tone and activities. The topic-changing in Usyvdi's Chipewyan post was all too reminiscent of your behaviour in last year's RMs, which also validated the use of modern, non offensive names that you have shown yourself to be fond of. NCL needs discussion, but

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Tlingit in Sitka said. Doesn't anybody else "get this"?? And re that same passage re self-preferred, it should be noted of the emergence of these terms into mainstream Canadian English....media, government, band et al. Rather than bothering wading into the close confines of the hostile NCL bearpit

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when meaning "people who are Tlingit". Your crew at NCLANG should really have taken the blinkers off when writing it, and as per WP:CRITERIA you should have observed the evidence of the "old consensus" in all the stand=alone names you went and applied your pet guideline too that was all over all the

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The Tlingit language has roughly two written. The old translations which had been made by anthropologist who focused on how to accurately record the sounds into a romanized spelling, and the official romanization of Tlingit. The later being official and used in all modern documents. Most confusion on

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in BC, and overwhelmingly ni Alaska......the real matter here is not CANENGL, it is TITLE, which the "walled garden" of NCL seems to have made a point of deliberately ignoring, as indeed you all have ignored t hose many people who cite TITLE and CSG and NCET here, while all you want to do and JorisV

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what they call themselves. Just different spellings; the subtext when I see stuff like this is "the white man got it wrong"....well, no, when modern orthographies were developed for native languages there was an effort to use romanization differently, with some letters not meaning what they mean in

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properly discuss this; instead launching a campaign of harassment towards me, now at a completely one-sided ANI; I'll be going higher than ANI in response...damn, more procedure, less action, just more time wasted in the way of applying mandates on CANSTYLE and TITLE and more; your invitation to me

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There was a discussion and a subsequent unanimous vote in favor of explicit disambiguation of people–language pairs. "Tlingit" can refer to both the people and the language, which means it falls under "Where a common name exists in English for both a people and their language, a title based on that

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There was a discussion once on whether the ethnicity should have precedence for the name, and it was decided it shouldn't. That could be revisited. But it really should be one discussion on the principle, not thousands of separate discussions over whether every ethnicity in the world should be at

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Along with the things I have suggested I talked with a People who do speak the Tlingit language I learned that there are about 200 speakers in total for the U.S.. One of the people I talked to was Lance Twitchell, a Tlingit language professor as UAS. 150 of that 200 are people currently learning.

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At.oow with punctuation is the correct Tlingit spelling of the word, Italics would provide implication of it being apart of the word. At.oow is a concept of ownership among the Tlingit, items such as blankets (often regalia button blankets or naaxin blankets), rattles, drums, boxes, canoes are all

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Skookum, that's a good argument for changing the guideline, so why don't you argue over there to change the guideline, rather than wasting everyone's time with a hundred move requests? If people agreed that the article on the people should occupy FOO, then all these page moves would be simplicity

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added as you rewrote your guideline to promote/enact. It says quite the opposite; the CRITERIA page also says that prior consensus should be respected, and those who crafted it an attempt to contact them towards building a new consensus done; and calls for consistency within related topics which

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Someone reading this would not whether at.oows and blankets are two different things or if at.oow is a Tlingit term for blanket (which I gather would not be correct). Also, the unusual (but I take it correct) punctuation of the word would be likely to confuse people. Should the word be placed in

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In the language section I believe that adding a bit about the "alphabet" or "lettering" would be good information. It would add more to the article without drawing on. Even just saying how many vowels and consonants would be nice to see in a piece like this. I don't think that adding the whole

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There are some good numbers and figures specific to speakers included here in X'unei Lance Twitchell's PhD thesis that you could reference. " Recent estimates have determined that the Tlingit language has about 80 birth speakers of various levels, and 50 second language learners that could be

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Skookum, I have no problem with the idea that the article on the people should take center stage by occupying the bare name. But that's a broad issue that should be dealt with broadly. It shouldn't be a walled garden around BC, with special naming conventions just for them, but should apply

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but that's a crock. The way to "address this issue properly" is to examine all of these, but bulk of them needless directs from then-long-standing titles moved by yourself, one by one as I was instructed/advised re the bulk RMs; as case-by-case decisions are needed. You want a centralized

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which has the crucial caveat "How the group self-identifies should be considered. If their autonym is commonly used in English, it would be the best article title. Any terms regarded as derogatory by members of the ethnic group in question should be avoided." This should be added to the

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The Tlingit people owned lots of slaves. They even erected the Lincoln Totem Pole to criticize the US government for freeing their slaves, as a demand for compensation for their "loss". Isn't their involvement in American slave trade and oppression highly relevant and important info?

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I am also wondering why the issue of slavery does not appear on this page. Article above references the fact that from 1/4 to 1/3 of people in Tlingit society were slaves. Slavery was also hereditary. This is a highly relevant and core part of the structure of the Tlingit society.

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you agree. There is no need for discussion; the flaws in your guideline have been pointed out by others than me....the place to discuss it perhaps is RfC or another process; the official hounding of me on a partisan basis is already at ANI, where I was going to take it myself about

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that's fine to say about a discussion that you presided over on an isolated guideline talkpage that you didn't invite anyone but your friends into..... WP:ETHNICGROUPS is clear on the variability of "X", "Xs", or "X people" and says nothing being people

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LOL that's funny I already tried that and got criticized for mis-procedure. Your pet guideline was never discussed at a central location nor even brought up with other affected/conflicting guidelines nor any relevant wikiprojects. And as for

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This line irks me a bit "Their name for themselves is Lingít". .... as if Tlingit and Tlinkit weren't. The L-only spelling is just the modern Tlingit language orthography, so far as I understand it. It's not like the other two spelling

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This might not be good IPA usage, But It is the most accurate ENGLISH phonetic Transcription for laymen. Even among Tlingit scholarly discussions, not much thought is put into the Lingít to Tlingit topic, as it is a “just is” situation.

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The Tlingits passed down at.oow(s) or blankets that represented trust. Only a Tlingit Indian can inherit one but they can also pass it down to someone they trust, who becomes responsible for caring for it but does not rightfully own

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and also applied only by proper one-by-one RM discussions; as CambridgeBayWeather and various others have pointed out, the guidelines that apply already exist; it is NCL, and NCLers, that are out of step and refuse to acknowledge

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Is that a template or just a copy-paste you're using to repeat your post across all these RMs? here are view stats that debunk the premise that "people-language pairs" are a legitimate primarytopic equation, which is utter bunk:

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on a regular basis. Your sniping at CANENGL as in the misplaced "walled garden" of BC English above is typical of the attitude you have to guidelines and style issues that are in the way of your agenda; and the Tlingit are only

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long ago had devised the use of "FOO" and often "PREFERRED ENDONYM" (for Canada especially, where such terms are common English now and your pet terms are obsolete and in disuse and often of clearly racist origin e.g.

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While support for this move was less clear than at other similar RMs recently, supporters were still more numerous, and had stronger arguments. The stronger oppose votes from JorisvS and In ictu oculi referred to the

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per CambridgeBayWeather. In cases where the requested move simply eliminates the word "people", and the destination title is already a simple redirect to the current title, it is clear that guidelines favoring both

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That's over a 4:1 ratio in favour of the people article as PRIMARYTOPIC. Your guideline is flawed and the POV premise advanced by amateur linguists in its utterly false, as demonstrable in this case and countless

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prejudice, you mean. Your prejudice is what got us here; and your "multitude" of undiscussed moves; your retort about a centralized discussion when you only held a localized, unadvertised one in crafting your

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without the "people"; in such constructions that would generally refer to individuals e.g. "Tlingit people in Sitka said..." is not what the whole of all the peoples under the grouping Tlingit said, but what

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editors who have not just snubbed anything I say but also insulted and patronized me while complaining themselves of "personal attacks" for having their actions criticized? Yeah, right, as if per

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in the latter's call for explicit disambiguation. WP:NCL also shows that there are other options besides adding "people", which is also in line with WP:ETHNICGROUP. I don't see the conflict. --

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when you have been rude and insulting at NCET's talkpage just like you have been in these RM, why go to NCL when I've alreayd confronted the core group of its authors on the issue - and only

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it's obvious from here and NCET that it's pointless to try to have a "proper discussion" about it with the crowd who have been the most virulent and persistent in attacking and opposing me

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Fine, then don't, but then don't feel bad about it when people invoke that guideline to oppose moves you want. I wanted (and still want) to keep an open mind to your arguments. I have read

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Thanks for pointing it out. I've removed the entry for now, as a standard prerequisite for inclusion in these lists is if the entry has its own Knowledge article to establish notability.

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term, with explicit disambiguation, is preferred for both articles". "Tlingit" was made a dab page in response to this guideline, only to be made a redirect later without discussion. --

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considered at.oow. Intangible objects too are at.oow such as songs, stories, crests, etc. it’s vaguely comparable to western ideals such as copyright and heirlooms.

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No, no-one would criticize you for discussing this rationally. But this multitude of move requests is disruptive. They should all be closed without prejudice. —

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Something i should mention about at.oow is that this spelling is both singular and plural, thus the “s” isn’t needed for either English or Tlingit writings

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isn't in British Columbia. The naming conventions that mandate the special names in BC already exist in the guidelines; your pretense that they don't is

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re "precision" and "conciseness" (as were ignored in the crafting of the guideline that is your mantra); let's put it this way, re PRIMARYTOPIC "

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also applies given that Tlingit is a redirect here. There is no need to redo any guideline as it already supports the un-disabiguated title.

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have reserves on Teslin Lake, but it's not clear if there are any inhabitants (they may be fishing reserves, e.g.) and there's a separate

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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a

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guideline, which has traditionally recommended disambiguating both ethnic groups and their languages. However, they did not address the

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with no regard for PRIMARYTOPIC despite Usyvdi's observation and actions in the redirect's history that the people are exactly that.

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For a very long time, you have demonstrated your ignorance of the region and this is just another example. Only one of the Tlingit

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So it doesn't say that "people" must be added, but says that it can be added and gives a few other options. That doesn't contradict

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Knowledge has policy that the people should go at "XXX people" and the language at "XXX language", with "XXX" being a dab page, see

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or with which I would disagree. I have at least assumed good faith and tried to be constructive and I'd like you to do the same. --

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and am asking someone who knows more to check it; I may be wrong in what I've stated, that they includes the Desleinn kwaan - they

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for the labret worn by women. I can't find that term or evidence that it was ever applied to Tlingits. Anyone have a reference?

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I notice there isn't any citation for the claim that the Russian name Koloshi (Колоши) comes from a Sugpiaq-Alutiiq term

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which must be Desleinn kwaan. Can someone who might know the details please make any needed changes to those pages?

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per nom. An identified people should be the primary topic of a term absent something remarkable standing in the way.

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but that appears to be a different person than the Tlingit artist Jean Taylor. The artist's own website bio is

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everywhere. If you want to change the guideline, that should be a discussion for the guideline talk page. —

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gimme a bit, it's dinnertime where I am and I've been at this all day, need a break; for one thing there is

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but I'm not sure if there are good sources available for writing a Knowledge article to link to instead.

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already redirects to this article, and has for almost all of the three years since the page was moved to

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which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —

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there saying that "people" should be added to standalone names; it's much broader in view than NCLANG.

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sees itself as a different people (Auke, Taku, Sheetka, Cape Fox, Tongass, Desleinn Kwanna etc).

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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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hasn't yet been made and maybe only need be a disambig page to those goernments, although really

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between

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itself. What's making it so involved is trying to argue that every article is an exception.

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until the issue is addressed properly. These should be discussed at a centralized location.

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the discussion now after being a complete about it, and obstinate in the extreme; NCL was

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and were in fact dismissive about any such effort. Pfft. NCLANG fans like to pretend

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etc e≈ist separate from any Native Alaskan government articles that may cover them.....

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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a

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Articles about ethnic groups that currently have issues needing resolution:

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The article could benefit from a clearer explanation of the concept of the

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the extant full-time English usage; someone had once tried to move this to

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Resolve the disparity in importance rankings among different ethnic groups

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Knowledge:Naming_conventions_(ethnicities_and_tribes)#Self-identification

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clan of Angoon. Is that a mistake, or have I misunderstood something? —

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in pronunciation between "Tlingit", "Tlinkit" or "Lingit"?? In English

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unanimous, and it should not have been used to affect people articles

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defending it from being used as a dab page. Current title moved from

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Feel free to edit the article attached to this page, join up at the

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Unknown-importance Indigenous peoples of North America articles

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concern, specifically the page view evidence and the fact that

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could be made as ethno/history articles, in the same way that

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which all of you make a point of pretending doesn't exist.

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Demographics and ethnography of Russia task force articles

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So why don't you go there now and try to take them off? --

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You should read ETHNICGROUPS a little more closely, then.

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So, you don't see the problem in the name conflict with

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C-Class Russia (demographics and ethnography) articles

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Actually in this case there are very good grounds for

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that currently is in need of a citation. Nice work.

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a

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English or other euro-languages. I mean, is there a

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Oh, so I should wade into a bearpit that is home to

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