261:
240:
172:
151:
588:
while training and test sets would come from a cohort of patients, the "validation", such as discovery of the same variants, would be done with an entire different cohort, coming from a different study. For 20 years, I used training, test, and validation datasets that way. I was utterly baffled when I discovered that the modern deep learning community decided otherwise. And the confusion is still here. See the illustrations of
71:
53:
22:
333:
81:
643:
I can't seem to find here or in other places the earliest source for this method. it seems the holdout method was separately proposed by
Highleyman in 1962, and cross validation was separately proposed by Stone in 1974, but the mixture of those two method resulting the train/validation/test is yet to
587:
In several areas of science, e.g. in bioinformatics, the test set is used during the development of a software or the training of a model. The validation is done on a completely different dataset, similar to the validation of an hypothesis or a theory elsewhere ins cience. For instance, in genomics,
462:, it says that in statistics and machine learning, gold standard is "a manually annotated training set or test set". What does it mean that the test set is manually annotated? And is "gold standard" a term that is important enough to be mentioned in this article perhaps? —
383:
with references to information science, statistics, data mining, biostatistics, etc. Currently the two articles are near duplicates (or could be based on the available information. Can we imagine some information for either which is not relevant for the other?
618:- split into training/validation/test sets? This article is written in the context of Machine Learning, and often when training/validation/test sets are sampled from the main data source they are done so either randomly or in a
222:
430:
Totally agree with the suggestion - training set, testing set and validation set are all parts of one whole and should be presented in one topic. (MM-Professor of QM & MIS, WWU-USA)
644:
be credited to one person. is this the truth? earliest source here is the Bishop book in 1995, but I don't think he is the one responsible for proposing this in literature
439:.) Perhaps a link should be created so that looking up "discovery set" redirects to here. Now, "discovery set" just gets a bunch of mostly-irrelevant search results.
683:
545:
127:
698:
212:
133:
713:
311:
301:
703:
693:
688:
678:
718:
708:
188:
103:
527:
515:
531:
277:
656:
500:
It's not clear in _whose_ practice this terms are flipped. In lots of posts by recognized practitioners (e.g. ) they're not flipped.
440:
357:
546:
https://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/525697/why-is-it-that-my-colleagues-and-i-learned-opposite-definitions-for-test-and-val
179:
156:
94:
58:
458:
I have seen the term "gold standard" been used at a few places in connection with articles about machine learning. On the page
459:
268:
245:
589:
33:
629:
511:
21:
660:
535:
444:
380:
664:
633:
601:
556:
539:
519:
490:
471:
448:
438:
A training set is also called a discovery set, right? (See for example <DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa1406498: -->
422:
408:
393:
615:
597:
39:
260:
239:
171:
150:
503:
625:
619:
507:
360:
for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.
276:
on
Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
187:
on
Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
102:
on
Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
86:
593:
418:
404:
389:
552:
574:
486:
672:
648:
467:
655:... no explanation is given, let alone in bold. Can someone please rectify? Thanks.
622:
way. I think that this is worthy of mention in this article, even if not in detail.
372:
399:
I agree they should be merged. Both articles say as much in their introductions.
414:
400:
385:
70:
52:
548:
184:
99:
76:
482:
463:
376:
345:
273:
496:
Claim that the meaning of test and validation is flipped in practice
614:
Should this page make some reference to the way in which data is
379:
separately when neither can be discussed alone. The concept is
327:
15:
371:
There is absolutely no value added of having two articles
353:
349:
340:
575:
https://www.datarobot.com/training-validation-holdout/
526:
The traditional meaning of validation is described at
272:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
183:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
98:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
132:This article has not yet received a rating on the
8:
19:
501:
331:
234:
145:
47:
338:Text and/or other creative content from
567:
236:
147:
49:
684:Unknown-importance psychology articles
7:
528:Software_verification_and_validation
266:This article is within the scope of
177:This article is within the scope of
92:This article is within the scope of
481:Lots of mentions in ML literature.
38:It is of interest to the following
699:Mid-importance Statistics articles
413:Merger done, some rewrites needed.
14:
714:Low-importance Robotics articles
259:
238:
197:Knowledge:WikiProject Statistics
170:
149:
112:Knowledge:WikiProject Psychology
79:
69:
51:
20:
704:WikiProject Statistics articles
694:Start-Class Statistics articles
689:WikiProject Psychology articles
679:Start-Class psychology articles
639:Earliest source for this method
306:This article has been rated as
217:This article has been rated as
200:Template:WikiProject Statistics
115:Template:WikiProject Psychology
520:19:35, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
460:Gold standard (disambiguation)
286:Knowledge:WikiProject Robotics
1:
719:WikiProject Robotics articles
709:Start-Class Robotics articles
634:14:18, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
590:Cross-validation (statistics)
449:11:17, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
394:22:53, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
289:Template:WikiProject Robotics
280:and see a list of open tasks.
191:and see a list of open tasks.
106:and see a list of open tasks.
540:19:21, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
472:16:00, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
409:04:03, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
602:14:48, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
735:
557:16:46, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
491:20:52, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
312:project's importance scale
134:project's importance scale
423:15:55, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
344:was copied or moved into
305:
254:
216:
165:
131:
64:
46:
665:20:39, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
434:synonym "discovery set"
651:redirects here, but...
381:Training and test sets
180:WikiProject Statistics
95:WikiProject Psychology
28:This article is rated
352:. The former page's
269:WikiProject Robotics
477:Remove GNG template
358:provide attribution
203:Statistics articles
118:psychology articles
34:content assessment
522:
506:comment added by
364:
363:
326:
325:
322:
321:
318:
317:
292:Robotics articles
233:
232:
229:
228:
144:
143:
140:
139:
87:Psychology portal
726:
610:Sampling Methods
577:
572:
343:
335:
334:
328:
294:
293:
290:
287:
284:
263:
256:
255:
250:
242:
235:
223:importance scale
205:
204:
201:
198:
195:
174:
167:
166:
161:
153:
146:
120:
119:
116:
113:
110:
89:
84:
83:
82:
73:
66:
65:
55:
48:
31:
25:
24:
16:
734:
733:
729:
728:
727:
725:
724:
723:
669:
668:
653:
641:
612:
582:
581:
580:
573:
569:
498:
479:
456:
454:"Gold standard"
436:
369:
339:
332:
291:
288:
285:
282:
281:
248:
202:
199:
196:
193:
192:
159:
117:
114:
111:
108:
107:
85:
80:
78:
32:on Knowledge's
29:
12:
11:
5:
732:
730:
722:
721:
716:
711:
706:
701:
696:
691:
686:
681:
671:
670:
652:
646:
640:
637:
626:aricooperdavis
611:
608:
607:
606:
605:
604:
579:
578:
566:
565:
561:
560:
559:
542:
508:FabianMontescu
497:
494:
478:
475:
455:
452:
435:
432:
428:
427:
426:
425:
368:
365:
362:
361:
356:now serves to
336:
324:
323:
320:
319:
316:
315:
308:Low-importance
304:
298:
297:
295:
278:the discussion
264:
252:
251:
249:Low‑importance
243:
231:
230:
227:
226:
219:Mid-importance
215:
209:
208:
206:
189:the discussion
175:
163:
162:
160:Mid‑importance
154:
142:
141:
138:
137:
130:
124:
123:
121:
104:the discussion
91:
90:
74:
62:
61:
56:
44:
43:
37:
26:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
731:
720:
717:
715:
712:
710:
707:
705:
702:
700:
697:
695:
692:
690:
687:
685:
682:
680:
677:
676:
674:
667:
666:
662:
658:
650:
649:Out-of-sample
647:
645:
638:
636:
635:
631:
627:
623:
621:
617:
609:
603:
599:
595:
591:
586:
585:
584:
583:
576:
571:
568:
564:
558:
554:
550:
547:
543:
541:
537:
533:
532:130.188.17.16
529:
525:
524:
523:
521:
517:
513:
509:
505:
495:
493:
492:
488:
484:
476:
474:
473:
469:
465:
461:
453:
451:
450:
446:
442:
433:
431:
424:
420:
416:
412:
411:
410:
406:
402:
398:
397:
396:
395:
391:
387:
382:
378:
374:
366:
359:
355:
351:
347:
342:
337:
330:
329:
313:
309:
303:
300:
299:
296:
279:
275:
271:
270:
265:
262:
258:
257:
253:
247:
244:
241:
237:
224:
220:
214:
211:
210:
207:
190:
186:
182:
181:
176:
173:
169:
168:
164:
158:
155:
152:
148:
135:
129:
126:
125:
122:
105:
101:
97:
96:
88:
77:
75:
72:
68:
67:
63:
60:
57:
54:
50:
45:
41:
35:
27:
23:
18:
17:
657:92.27.180.78
654:
642:
624:
613:
570:
562:
502:— Preceding
499:
480:
457:
441:73.53.61.168
437:
429:
373:Training set
370:
341:Training_set
307:
267:
218:
178:
93:
40:WikiProjects
594:NicGambarde
30:Start-class
673:Categories
620:stratified
563:References
194:Statistics
185:statistics
157:Statistics
109:Psychology
100:Psychology
59:Psychology
350:this edit
516:contribs
504:unsigned
377:Test set
346:Test_set
283:Robotics
274:Robotics
246:Robotics
616:sampled
354:history
310:on the
221:on the
415:Prax54
401:Prax54
386:Sda030
36:scale.
549:Ain92
367:Merge
348:with
661:talk
630:talk
598:talk
553:talk
544:See
536:talk
512:talk
487:talk
483:Wqwt
468:talk
445:talk
419:talk
405:talk
390:talk
375:and
464:Kri
302:Low
213:Mid
128:???
675::
663:)
632:)
600:)
592:.
555:)
538:)
530:.
518:)
514:•
489:)
470:)
447:)
421:)
407:)
392:)
659:(
628:(
596:(
551:(
534:(
510:(
485:(
466:(
443:(
417:(
403:(
388:(
314:.
225:.
136:.
42::
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.