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I just noticed the infobox states a diesel engine is used, whereas the development section refers to a gasoline engine. I'm not familiar with the source cited for either (Appears to be different volumes of the same book) and don't otherwise know which is correct, but hopefully someone else can help.
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I think we had a similar discussion on naval gun naming recently where I think the consensus was that we follow the naming conventions used by the sources. I agree with that line of arguement - the question is how sources treat each model individually - do they suffix tank (or light tank, whatever)
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system, for example: The Japanese used ideograms to differentiate various weapons. The ideogram "Chi" meant a medium tank, "Te" a tankette; "Ke" a light tank, "Ho" (artillery) a self-propelled gun, "Ka" an amphibious tank. There was a second ideogram to distinguish the models. For example, the
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It is common through out different RS sources for certain Japanese AFV's to have the word "tank" or "gun tank" consistently after the name, such as: Type 91 Heavy Tank, Type 95 Heavy Tank, Type 98 20 mm AAG Tank, Short Barrel 120 mm Gun Tank. And part of what they are is in the Japanese naming
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Consensus suggests that for the sake of uniformity, ease of understanding and clarity, all articles documenting tanks should include "Tank" as a part of its title, generally appended at the end. Please see
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Knowledge (XXG) the term might be entirely different - or even absent as a common term for it. The point is, the user of English Knowledge (XXG) should understand easily what the subject is about. -
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Hi, just read in this article that one completed tank was recovered by US troops from a lake in 1945. Any info of what happened with it? Was anything related to this design preserved? Thanks,
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It xxx tank is typical for that country/language and the RS, I'd keep it. Foreign names like Pz IV can't be confused with a love letter or a lady who waltzes. A standard for foreign types
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Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Military history#Re: should the word "tank" be included in the titles of articles about the tank models
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I see what you are stating, and not all the others have the word "tank" after them. As for Japanese tanks, two have the word "tank" -
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If it's a medium tank as the article states, then I think adding that to the title would be helpful per
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Knowledge (XXG) and the common nomenclature for this type of weaponry is evidently "tanks". In the
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there's a great differentiation in how the individual articles are named. According to
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seems feasible; moving the two inconsistent Japanese titles might work.
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the word "tank" is never (!) used in the title of their models, i.e.:
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Checked cited RS book and corrected scrivener's error. Thanks,
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According to one source, a prototype of this tank and the
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