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42: 301:"The Campbell brothers are the sons of the late folk musician, Ian Campbell." - what has this got to do with influences on the band. If Ian Campbell directly influenced his sons and got them involved in music and was hence instrumental in getting UB40 started, this should go in the "History" section 229:"The title of their first album, Signing Off, indicates the band was signing off from, or ending, their claim for unemployment benefits" - is this actually the case that most of the band were unemployed? The prose says that Travers was an electrical apprentice (though that claim is unsourced) 223:"Their first gig took place on 9 February 1979 at The Hare & Hounds Pub in Kings Heath, Birmingham for a friend's birthday party." - I don't think the text after this is necessary - the picture's caption (with inline source) will suffice 195:"Astro remained with the original band until November 2013, when he left to team up again with Campbell and Virtue in a new version of UB40." - as seen by reading events in the body, this may now be out of date and needed to be revisited 176:
issues. The section "1978-1999" is one of three sections in "history"; yet it is this time period where the band had the greatest critical and commercial success. This just doesn't seem to put things in balance.
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The first three paragraphs are unsourced. There is a footnote explaining what "UB40" means in the context of an unemployment benefit form, but no proof whatsoever that anything else here is factually correct.
271:"In 2011 five founder members of the group and directors of their DEP International label, had bankruptcy proceedings started against them relating to debts of the record label" - the 287:
I think this section needs to be greatly expanded, using a wider variety of sources. For example, why did the band choose straight reggae over, say, the ska revival style of
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There's no real explanation of how the band members got together. For a multi-racial band, this is particularly important. Possibly also a brief sentence explaining
80: 70: 232:"supported local musicians and bands from Birmingham, such as Beshara, often bringing them on tour" - the source for this is a web forum, which is 257:, why is this necessary here? It may be suitable for Earl Falconer's own article, but it doesn't directly have anything to do with UB40 as a band 369: 47: 395: 156: 75: 126: 52: 226:"UB40 caught their first break" - suggest "UB40 gained national significance" or something else that's not colloquial 122: 387:
Unless you use those level of sources, I don't see any chance of this article obtaining GA status soon. Sorry.
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source. Ideally the article's prose should be supplemented by citations from back issues of journals such as
253:"Earl was sentenced to six months' imprisonment in June 1988 and banned from driving for three years" - per 99: 393: 150: 332:
fail to meet the "citations to reliable sources", "broad in coverage" and "focused" sections of the
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is generally frowned upon as a source to use for such a contentious claim as this.
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I recently added a small amount of content (after I saw the band at the
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Who is "Virtue"? This is the first mention of Mickey in the article.
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I'm stopping the review there. Not only does this article
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My initial concern is that the article seems to exhibit
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Blood and Fire: The Autobiography of the UB40 Brothers
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to give me a hand in removing the contentious content.
298:What makes Solarnavigator.net a reliable source? 216:Birmingham was a melting-pot of cultures (cf: 8: 30: 361:guidelines, then buy or borrow a copy of 61: 33: 295:? Why did they gravitate towards pop? 7: 242:"The album featured the song" - the 349:In terms of going forward, I would 340:must be removed. I'm going to ping 24: 318:Most of this section is unsourced 234:unsuitable as a reliable source 1: 398:09:59, 18 December 2014 (UTC) 161:09:59, 18 December 2014 (UTC) 238:biography of a living person 414: 180:Specific comments follow: 372:) and use that as your 359:citing inline sources 334:good article criteria 308:and should be changed 306:neutral point of view 264:is not suitable as a 250:and must not be used 378:New Musical Express 353:you read up on our 248:copyright violation 236:, especially for a 351:strongly recommend 167:Brentwood Festival 370:978-0-099-47654-2 220:) would be useful 89: 88: 405: 139: 130: 111: 43:Copyvio detector 31: 413: 412: 408: 407: 406: 404: 403: 402: 384:where possible. 365:(Random House, 325: 315: 284: 266:reliable source 218:Rivers of Blood 202: 186: 120: 97: 91: 85: 57: 29: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 411: 409: 401: 400: 385: 346: 345: 324: 321: 320: 319: 314: 311: 310: 309: 302: 299: 296: 283: 280: 279: 278: 269: 258: 251: 240: 230: 227: 224: 221: 206: 201: 198: 197: 196: 193: 190: 185: 182: 140: 87: 86: 84: 83: 78: 73: 67: 64: 63: 59: 58: 56: 55: 53:External links 50: 45: 39: 36: 35: 28: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 410: 399: 396: 394: 392: 391: 386: 383: 379: 375: 371: 368: 364: 360: 356: 352: 348: 347: 343: 339: 335: 331: 327: 326: 322: 317: 316: 312: 307: 303: 300: 297: 294: 290: 286: 285: 281: 276: 275: 270: 267: 263: 259: 256: 252: 249: 245: 241: 239: 235: 231: 228: 225: 222: 219: 215: 211: 207: 204: 203: 199: 194: 191: 188: 187: 183: 181: 178: 175: 170: 168: 163: 162: 158: 155: 152: 148: 145: 141: 138: 137: 133: 128: 124: 119: 118: 114: 109: 105: 101: 96: 95: 82: 79: 77: 74: 72: 69: 68: 66: 65: 60: 54: 51: 49: 46: 44: 41: 40: 38: 37: 32: 26: 19: 389: 382:Melody Maker 373: 355:verification 350: 329: 313:Achievements 293:The Selecter 289:The Specials 272: 213: 209: 179: 174:WP:RECENTISM 171: 164: 153: 143: 142: 135: 131: 117:Article talk 116: 112: 93: 90: 81:Instructions 104:visual edit 390:Ritchie333 330:completely 282:Influences 274:Daily Mail 246:link is a 147:Ritchie333 48:Authorship 34:GA toolbox 268:for BLPs. 144:Reviewer: 71:Templates 62:Reviewing 27:GA Review 18:Talk:UB40 157:contribs 76:Criteria 323:Summary 244:YouTube 200:History 127:history 108:history 94:Article 338:WP:BLP 255:WP:BLP 136:Watch 16:< 380:and 374:main 367:ISBN 357:and 342:John 262:IMDB 212:and 184:Lead 151:talk 123:edit 100:edit 291:or 214:why 210:how 159:) 125:| 106:| 102:| 154:· 149:( 132:· 129:) 121:( 113:· 110:) 98:(

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