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acceleration of its strategy to transform the investment bank to reduce costs. It announced that the investment bank would focus on its traditional strengths and exit certain businesses within fixed income that are not economically profitable. The bank is expected to reduce headcount by around 10,000 jobs across all its divisions, of which 2,500 will be in Switzerland, followed by the United States and Great Britain. The 15-percent staff cut will make overall staff become 54,000 from current 63,745. The peak employees level in 2007 before financial crisis 2008 is 83,500.' Ref.
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The graphic illustrating all of the different companies/takeovers that have gone on to create the modern group is very good but it looks to me the wrong way around. As a history it reads from right to left when it should read from left to right. Perhaps it's just a personal idiosyncrasy but I find it
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If this is honestly the first time you have heard of the bank UBS then I don't think you have any basis to render your opinion on this discussion. It is one of the largest banks in the world. The other items on the disambig page are far less notable. However, I am fine leaving the situation as is.
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should be reserved for the bank - it is far and away the most common usage of those letters and if you referred to UBS in conversation you would almost certainly be referring to the bank unless you specified otherwise. I am sympathetic to the idea of dropping the AG although I am unclear whether AG
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The article separates asset management and wealth management early on in different sections. Yet, source #17, which is used to back up a statement in the asset management section looks to be better suited to support this sentence in the wealth management section: "Until 2009, UBS was considered the
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I'm trying to figure out what you did here. It appears you moved the dabpage to UBS, which reversed (speaking from vague memory, I didn't examine the edit history in detail) a move from, I think it was mid to late May, then you moved it back. I was going to mention in my initial RM entry that "UBS"
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I disagree with removal of the controversies section that was well sourced and covered. the removal of such section paints a portrait of a pro-UBS stance in which a person with interests to the the bank (stockholder, CEO, etc.) is removing the information to benefit the bank. This is censorship. I
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I'm sorry Anthony, but you've got to stop using your own knowledge to decide article names. Your comments on page moves are too often idiosyncratic and based on personal opinion; they come across as rather clueless. Both reliable sources and Knowledge page views show the bank is far and away the
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The 'Curtailment' section of the page is out of date and states inaccurate information in reference to an outdated Reuters article published in 2012. I would like to suggest that it is re-written to reflect a more recent article from Reuters as follows: 'On October 30, 2012 UBS AG announced an
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was just a redirect to "UBS AG", but I figured it was superfluous to mention it. At any rate, the "AG" clearly falls foul of NCCORP and none of the other entities at the dabpage are anywhere near as notable as the bank, so equal disambig would be inappropriate. Hence, primary dab.
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It was moved to the Union Bank of Switzerland article, since it technically pertains to the predecessor as opposed to UBS, the Newco entity. Additionally, it wasn't Nazi collaboration but rather issues remitting the property of undocumented Jewish holocaust survivors.
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Some entire paragraphs are not cited. These paragraphs mention specific figures, and while nobody may necessarily believe these figures to be controversial, they should probably be cited anyways. The usual rule of thumb is a citation per paragraph as the bare
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The whole 'workplace' section is like a press release, not serious, helpful information about the company. If someone want to join the firm, they can find this out on their website. If someone is doing research, this is no help at all.
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Under what section would you include information about UBS's headquarters in Stamford? Info like the Stamford Gateway Project, tax abatements, UBS being the largest tax payer in Stamford and second largest employer in Stamford.
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is what wikipedia considers as "operating revenue". However, what UBS calls "operating profit before tax" is what wikipedia calls "operating income". Which one should we take into account in the infobox ?
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Has you or anybody discussed the length of the article? Admittedly, I have worked on long articles as well, but never anything this long (my longest article is probably around 87kB, for comparison).
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is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Knowledge policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
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This article makes a statement that "UBS Board of Directors routinely failed in their duties" there is no link or externally verified source or statement and is therefore opinion.
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Please make sure that revelant sources are used throughout the text as this above is public information in Switzerland and beyond to the best of my knowledge. Thank you.
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to mount in 2008 ..." (my emphasis). Shouldn't this say something like "The bank's losses started to mount in 2008"? The present wording doesn't make sense to me.
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I don't have a strong opinion whether the AG stays or goes - like i said it probably shouldn't be there but i would defer to someone who knows the company better
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This article, as a whole, seems like a list of facts about the company rather than an encyclopedia article. Knowledge pages should look like pages of
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is closer to "Corp" (i.e. part of the name) or "inc." (i.e. purely a suffix). In either event the list of alternate meanings should be at
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In the "Controversies" paragraph, should "adverse influence" read "adverse inference"? The latter seems to make more sense in the context.
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largest wealth manager globally." Also the article of the source no longer exists, so we only have the title of the article to go on now.
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I think, because it corrupts the entire company since we can't know for sure who has open accounts there or the source of the money.
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Communications problems between Jewish communities and the Swiss Bank UBS should also be mentionned because it affected the whole
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government by UBS should also be mentionned since it is a grave accusation that has been admitted by UBS itself in front of the
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When disambiguation is needed, the legal status, an appended "(company)", or other suffix can be used to disambiguate
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Reference 42 in the article refers to a page on the companies website, it no longer exists, should it be tidied up.
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How about incorporating the fact about the 'best working mothers' award into the intro, and cutting the rest out?
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involvement with the Swiss Banks (including UBS) should also be mentionned during the Nazi Gold Affair saga.
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I forgot to add to the list above the cost to the Swiss taxpayer, as the $ 60 billion bailout paid by the
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Why doesn't the page say much of anything about their aid to clients in tax evasion? Or Birkenfeld?
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is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under
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saga during the 90's in Switzerland. I am referring to the "peanuts" comments by the CEO of UBS.
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to UBS AG, so we've already accepted that this is the primary use! (p.s. I fixed the history of
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First of all, I rarely misunderstand anything. These are the most relevant questions from
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A gold key is totally fictional, It's not in the right place in this UBS article. see
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I am nearing completion of a major cleanup with an eye toward getting the article to
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I'm surprised this article doesn't mention anything about UBS's biggest controversy.
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status and have spent some time building out the universe of related articles (See:
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be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original
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While I think that this makes the cut, I have a couple of comments:
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UBS redirects to UBS AG which is kept at its current location.
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as well (should be mentionned if it is not the case already).
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