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Well I found it directly from the site connected to HKU but not in an article, all of the information I've found is basically from the site directly so I'm sure that the facts I've found are correct and is the article really too long? because I put a lot of work into formating the
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Every university have their own strengths. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out on most rankings, Harvard is always/mostly placed 1st; not because it is BEST school in all subjects but the amount of endowment it has for research and funding good profs. Rankings are mostly used for
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HKU hall education (at least some) has been over accentuate "hall contribution" as a requirement of admission. Exemplified by the re-admission form adopted by Starr Hall HKU, you have to list and quantify contribution to hall. It is so ridiculous that you are required to reveal "how many time have
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I think that most other great universities only include famous alumni that are world-renowned and have made some great impact to society as a head of government, author, scientist, etc. Bureaucrats and officials of little note that will soon be forgotten should not be included on a list of "famous
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Ya, I understand your point. My point is that you can do that by making a HKU criticism website somewhere out there on the Web and place your discussion there on that Web site, then link the discussion on the wikipedia page. It is weird to see a university wiki-article, which is supposed to be
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Well, first of all, the list of universities Hong Kong U has SA affiliations with should not be listed in its entirety. (A simple sentence stating that "HKU is affiliated with "X" # of universities spanning eighteen countries" should suffice.) You basically need to find articles (satisfying
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Yet, in his introductory remarks (in the same ceremony), Dr. Albert Chau, Dean of
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Yes, it is too long. I mean it. When this tiny section (in terms of context) outstretches the actual content of the article, it's too long. I'll send a copy of what you have right now so you don't lose the work, but that list is coming off of the article now.
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I just moved this section up so people can discuss the matter. Also, I am noticing that there is an edit war happening on the "criticism" section. I believe that both sides should discuss the matter here, instead of engaging in an edit-war.
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Yes, they are appointed as so, but no hall has the right to enrol students and all 10 university faculties are independent from the hall system. I guess the HKU hall system should be different from the collegiate universities, say,
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