Talk:Ubuntu version history/Archive 1

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complain that OMG Ubuntu is not a reliable source. As detailed above already, several other editors have stated that OMG Ubuntu is not a reliable source as defined for Knowledge. Your position is held solely by you. Looking through the history of this article and many other articles, I see only Ahunt claiming OMG Ubuntu is reliable but many in various other places, editors have argued that it is not reliable and you dismissed them. I have already stated that OMG Ubuntu has not got a major market share of Ubuntu related stories on the net. It has not displaced other titles. Sneddon is a insignificant blogger with no actual computing qualifications. The quotations of articles from OMG Ubuntu on this article and many other articles give undue weight to the opinion of one minor blogger and should be removed. The references can and should be replaced with reliable sources and where other sources cannot be found, the fact must be marked a dubious or removed.

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for the claim that they are generally correct is from later, primary sources. Because OMG has often been the only outlet at the previous Ubuntu conferences full-time they often broke stories first that later were the subject of public statements and press releases from Canonical and the other 'buntu flavour projects, that proved correct. Originally they had a collection of about six writers with Sneddon providing oversight, but the number of writers seems to have dwindled in the past year or so. I wouldn't discount someone's credibility on the basis of being 25 years old. As profiled in Full Circle Magazine, some of the Ubuntu software package maintainers are under 15 and they do very good work. I don't think you have to be as old as me to be a good journalist. -

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coverage of Ubuntu before OMG launched you will find much more coverage there, dropping off after they started up. My point is simply if you discount them it will be hard to cover this subject adequately because the the dearth of other sources that are addressing the subject in this depth. There are a number of active editors watching this page, I think it is significant that you don't seem to be gaining any consensus for your contention. The last time this was brought up at the RS noticeboard there was no consensus there either to not use this source. Unless some other editors support your proposal to not use this source I think all we have here is "no consensus" and this discussion has probably run its course. -

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frequently main stream press. Your claim that OMG Ubuntu is often the first to post news is irrelevant. Being first is not a metric of reliability. Including in Knowledge quality sources not quick sources. Plus the access date for the references on this article are often weeks or months after the publication date, making freshness irrelevant. Knowledge is not a news outlet. We are quite happy to wait for a press releases and reliable third party sources to be written and published rather that take the word of a blogger who tweeted while at a conference. Sneddons age is of significance. Experience is required to be a competent editor and to be knowledgeable on the topic at hand. The reason Jim Lynch might pass

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is probably true. I wander what to do when it breaks down for RS. And what would you think about the Schneier blog. It is not commercial. Not sure you meant to imply it's a requirement or relevant. I would think let's say newspapers could be deemed "RS" in general except for science. And Schneier reliable when speaking about security but not in general. The article of his is however on an interesting mix of security and physics. Then I'm not sure what do to in that case. I would presume usually that he is right, and in this case. But he is not a physicist and I can't judge this specific case what I would to (not that I need to).

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other reliable sources reject. Sounds like a dubious source to me. I reject your argument that other better sources can't be. Linux has many reliable main stream publishers producing magazines and newspapers but on and off-line. Ubuntu is a major Linux distro and is frequently discussed in these reliable sources. If information is given in OMG Ubuntu and can be collaborated in other reliable sources, then the other reliable source should be in the article instead of OMG Ubuntu. If OMG Ubuntu published information that cannot be backed up by better sources then that information is dubious and should be removed form this article.

4490: 4466: 4454: 1244:, which says "Knowledge articles are not:...Changelogs or release notes. An article about a product should include a history of its development and major improvements; creating a list of all changes to software or hardware between each minor version violates other precepts of this policy." We have a consensus to remove it but you can start a new discussion to try to gain consensus to put it back in, but you will have to show how it complies with policy. - 12:49, 4 June 2012 (UTC) 2622:. I can vouch for their precision – there wasn’t an ant hill in the valley that he missed. Their scales are a wonder of detail and quite the fashion statement. I can also vouch for their toughness; pangolin’s regularly survive encounters with lions. All in all, a perfect fit. There’s no sassier character, and no more cheerful digger, anywhere in those desert plains. If you want a plucky partner, the pangolin’s your match. Let’s pack light for a wonderful adventure together. 31: 3881: 2073: 1845:, with no specific date given. As can be seen on that page, Canonical has done this before, sometimes they give an exact date, as in the case of Jaunty Jackalope (23 October 2010) and sometimes they don't, like with Feisty Fawn (just October 2008). In the absence of any firm date I think we have no choice but to go with the end of April for 8.04's end of life. - 3440:

printed was unreliable. When this was brought up at the RS noticeboard there was no consensus there either to not use this source. Why are none of the other editors on this page supporting your position to remove this ref? They seem to want to not bother getting involved. So far there is no consensus to delete this source and we are also getting into

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utopic jessie / sid 14.04 trusty jessie / sid 13.10 saucy wheezy / sid - 7 13.04 raring wheezy / sid 12.10 quantal wheezy / sid 12.04 precise wheezy / sid 11.10 oneiric wheezy / sid 11.04 natty squeeze / sid - 6 10.10 maverick squeeze / sid 10.04 lucid squeeze / sid

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viewer to decide. If many sources say one thing and only one source says differently, then it may be correct to omit that single source in that case. However, each case must be examined one by one. Just because Einstein got his cosmological constant wrong doesn't mean I disregard all of Einstein's work.

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Regarding nr.5, we also have this problem potentially, if we do not know if something falls into nr.1 or nr.2. In that case we do not include if we think it's nr.2, if we do not know we might include. Then if it's nr.2, does something different happen than if it's nr.4? What I'm trying to say is I do

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you continue to miss-represent the situation. Multiple users have criticized OMG Ubuntu, only Ahunt defends it. The RS noticeboard did not give a green light to add OMG Ubuntu everywhere. In fact the RS noticeboard contains only the nominating complaint and Ahunt's counter, with nobody else coming in

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I agree. That ref was taken to RS noticeboard a while ago and there was no consensus that it was not an RS. It is a commercial site, not a hobbyist blog, has proven reliable and is widely read and relied upon by Ubuntu users. User:Rincewind42 seems to not like it and has been removing it from as many

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Well as I said I disagree. Because they do such a thorough job covering Ubuntu issues, other publications have largely left the field to them to cover and moved into less well-covered aspects of Linux and free software and when they do cover Ubuntu it is in much less detail than OMG does. The back up

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page says, "OMG! Ubuntu! is manned full-time by Joey-Elijah Sneddon, a 25 year old journalism graduate based in the UK. We're also supported by guest writers..." A guest writer is not a staff and a 25 year old graduate is not a experienced and reliable editor – especially not of articles for which he

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Sorry to chime in so late, but I agree with the move to remove programs that are not on the main desktop ISO, although I am sad to see the server programs go. It's really meant to be a sample of programs that are included in Ubuntu and what version they were at during each release and by no means was

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Well let's see what sort of concept you have for it and then see what we can do. There have been only two LTS releases so far, perhaps we could expand those sections within the article and then see if they get big enough to split off as separate articles. There is a pretty good article on them all at

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It would be possible to split each version into a seperate article, but each one would need to have a lot more text added to it to justify that. I would suggest if you think that is worthwhile then expand each one here within this article and then, when they are each much longer, propose a split into

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You didn't give a No.5 but there is one: Publication is not a "reliable source" and you don't know if it is right or wrong. In this case you still don't use it. If it doesn't qualify as a reliable source then adding it to a Knowledge article gives either the false impression that the article is well

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How do you know the reliable source is incorrect? Perhaps because other reliable sources give different information. Sourcing articles is often about balancing sources with different viewpoints to get a neutral point of view. It may be appropriate to put both view points in the article and allow the

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Thanks for answering. Your answer indicated that a source is either reliable or not, that is judged per entity; not per article. However once in a while they can be wrong (and "unreliable sources" right). It seems to me that "RS", are presumed to be right and the others not. That is a heuristic that

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for experts in the field. OMG Ubuntu is published by OHSO and has a small staff of writers and editorial oversight. Despite its often irreverent style they do seem to be as reliable as any source and don't shill for Canonical, often clashing with the company on issues. Because they are so focused on

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It may be another article but it's a similar subject and the same principle applies. Its age is not at all relevant. You'll notice that Mac OS code names are not linked to their respective articles, Android OS code names, Windows code names. None of them. This is the way it is across Knowledge. They

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the VLC media player to this table. As much as I like VLC, it has never been an application included on the Ubuntu ISO CD, although it has been available in the repositories. There are lots of other applications that are not on the Ubuntu ISO CD, but are in the repositories, like Epiphany, Avidemux,

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IMHO, the table was one of the most useful piece of data of the article. You could see, at once, for example what version of python a certain ubuntu release uses, so you could tell whether your application will work or not (python 3 is not backward compatible); or you could see whether you would get

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But there are many older screenshots without a file manager inside the screenshot. I also don't know if the version of the file manager corresponds with the version of the OS itself (when you can install different version on the same OS, then it might be less useful). I think it is more a matter of

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I am not solely targeting OMG Ubuntu. I listed 6 (six) blogs and forums that are going to get replaced on this article. It is Ahunt who has the OMG Ubuntu obsession. The edit history shows that Ahunt added all the OMG Ubuntu links to this article and Ahunt has been the sole defender of them despite

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Are there any other straws at which you would like to grasp? There are "reasons" for every product's code name, and they're usually applied after the code name has been chosen or while selecting. In this instance, the code names ascend alphabetically and so they're bound by that convention and have

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Right, I take it you're "nutznboltz" in Launchpad then? If you have a reliable source contesting Canonical's support for stable releases, then please go ahead and add the information to the Knowledge article. Alternatively, if this is an expression of a personal grievance about your patch for bug

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Ubuntu | Debian -version number 18.04 bionic buster / sid - 10 17.10 artful stretch / sid - 9 17.04 zesty stretch / sid 16.10 yakkety stretch / sid 16.04 xenial stretch / sid 15.10 wily jessie / sid - 8 15.04 vivid jessie / sid 14.10

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I get that you don't like this source, but you need to gain a consensus to remove it. You haven't convinced me that this source is unreliable or not worth using and now you are down to throwing insults about the source around. You haven't been able to show a single incidence where information they

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where a bug which causes KVM VM guest's networking to crash under load did not get accepted into Karmic. This is despite the SRU team begin supplied with the necessary patch on March 3, 2011. All they had to do was accept a patch and they did not. Clearly any claims about "18 months of support"

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at this point. Ubuntu might not be actively developed within the next few years, unlikely but possible. It is equivalent to creating a redirect page for Windows 9+. Perhaps 10.04 could redirect to future releases or something, but the rest are in my opinion very good candidates for deletion. I

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Would these article be ok, and those publications in general get a free pass? Shouldn't at least the truth (if uncontroversial) get a say? Back to the specific case of OMG Ubuntu, I see mostly obviously uncontroversial true info there, that anyone can check out, this is in (the User Interface) of

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That is the very definition of an unreliable source—a small outlet that publishes information that other sources don't include. There is no way to back up your claim that they are generally correct, because other sources don't include that content. That suggests that OMG often publish things that

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The reference you linked says badger. Just badger. Full stop. Nowhere, not once, does it say honey badger. You're taking inaccurate assumptions and applying it to a source. This is original research. Plus, the wikilink to Canonical doesn't say anything about Canonical being founded in South

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The main concern I have is that I don't think the differences between consecutive releases are that significant. I could be wrong, but I think that each version is in a weird kind of limbo where they are notable enough that the current article seems insufficient, but that separate articles about

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Reliability is not based on a judgement of being correct, it is to do with the style and format of the publication. Two sources might say exactly the same thing, but one will more reliable than the other. For example: "Dolly the sheep, the first cloned animal died" coulde be backed up by several

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There are quite a large number of citations to OMGUbuntu.co.uk in this article. In fact there are 30 citations. In particular, the section about release 14.4 has 7 citations from OMG Ubuntu for just that one paragraph. Additionly there is a quote from the author of OMG Ubuntu in the Ubuntu 13.10

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The table should not be split into two columns for OpenOffice.org & Libre Office. One follows the schema of release of the other & conveniently replaces the other in the order of that schema and consequent release of Ubuntu. A "/" diving the two in the top of column should be sufficient.

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I took out the information about Jaunty, which contained the impossible statement that Jaunty will have Pidgin 2.6, which does not exist, among the list of software packages. This was the only one with a citation, and whatever the actual citation meant, it didn't mean what it said. The whole bit

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There is no doubt it is a small operation, but their reports generally are thorough and correct. One of the problems with rejecting them is that because OMG Ubuntu covers Ubuntu issues relatively completely most other tech outlets have reduced coverage of Ubuntu, meaning that there often are no

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The fact that they are usually quick to report Ubuntu developments is significant. Because they cover events quickly, other media don't bother, having been "scooped" by OMG and knowing that it is widely read by people interested in Ubuntu-related subjects. If you look at the general tech media

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I think it is significant that you don't seem to be gaining any consensus for your contention that OMG Ubuntu is a reliable source. You haven't any support today and you haven't had any support in the past either. On the contrary, there is support for my position. I am not the first person to

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I have uncommented the section on 10.07. The ref is very clear that this was announced and so the text is correct in that regard. What is not clear is that it was actually released or not. It could have been that it was delayed and rolled into 10.10, but as the text says it was "announced". -

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Hmm...this might get difficult. I've been running Vivid since its first beta and these are my personal observations from my log files. And you can imagine, I was pretty worried that everything will go well, as a manual libc6 migration is not for the faint of heart. APT helps a lot in recent

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is the migration from the WHOLE base system from libc6 2.19 to 2.21. (Neither Trusty nor Utopic ever made such libc6 change; minor version number was always the same.) As most of you tech-savvy guys will know, libc6 is the one and all for Linux. If you break it, almost nothing works (except

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I really don't think that other publications have left the field at all. OMG Ubuntu is far form the biggest Ubuntu related site by any metric and many other dedicated Ubuntu fan sites exist as well as many Linux publications covering the topic as well as the general computing press and even

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I was just reading the whole page, and checking out the sources to read more. I noticed that the cite for 10.07 leads to nowhere (or actually, somrthing). I didn't know that there was going to be a 10.07, and when I Googled it, I couldn't find any places I found to be "reputable" enough.

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I have been searching the internet for more information on 10.07. The 5 sentence blog post referenced in the 10.07 section seems to be only thing everyone is pointing to as the source, there is no official announcement from Canonical on a 10.7 release. There is no reference to 10.07 on

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The animals are not trademarks, they're code names, nothing more. And we do have consensus. That has been displayed above several times. I suspect that by working together you expect us to link to adjectives and animals that are completely unrelated to the product. --19:34, 25 May 2012

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The version timeline has Windows 7's release date as roughly Jan-Feb 2010: whereas it was released on July 22, 2009 to PC builders or October 22, 2009 to the general public. Vista is shown correctly (using the general public availability), as are roughly Windows XP SP2 and SP3.

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just so you know, 11.04 is considering Libre office instead of OpenOffice, "Banshee will become 11.04 default media player providing it overcomes disk space issues and Libre Office is also being considered as a replacement to Open Office. How do you feel about the changes?"

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I agree with including only the "core" components (we could discuss what could be considered core; e.g., kernel version), but I disagree with completely removing the table; no offense intended, but if still holding opinion, please involve another wikipedia editor besides

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other users comments. That is causing me to react accordingly and scrutinise OMG in much more detail than I had otherwise intended. I don't need any further consensus to replace them with better quality sources as such a consensus already exists as stated twice above.

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Well that is one disadvantage of editing under an IP address, you have no editing history, so I don't know how experienced you are here. The ref shows that libc was changed, but not what the implications of that move are, so it is start. Is there any help in this at

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badger, breezy, dapper, drake, edgy, eft, fawn, feisty, gibbon, gutsy, hardy, hedgehog, heron, hoary, ibex, intrepid, jackalope, jaunty, karmic, koala, lucid, lynx, maverick, meerkat, narwhal, natty, ocelot, oneiric, pangolin, precise, quantal, quetzal, warthog, and

1989:- It does not need splitting into individual release articles. Most are just one paragraph long, too short for a stand alone article each and, because most are old releases that are no longer supported or in use, it is unlikely that they will grow in size. - 2150:

Should there be new columns for Unity and Software Center versions and corresponding numbers? I think that these two are more essential, discussed and controversial parts of the current Ubuntu os than are optional software such as GIMP, Pidgin or PiTiVi.

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2596:. Before you throw around accusations of not "contributing constructively", check the editing history beforehand. "If you had bothered to look", you'd see that another editor reverted you, and provided an explanation above. - 17:42, 22 May 2012 (UTC) 3480:

Nr.1 is ideal and we presume those publishers do not do nr.2. For technical matters especially, let's say buisnessinsider.com or forbes.com might be right (or wrong). I would use them if correct, but would also like to at least edit out if wrong.

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I'll second that. The color coded "supported/not support/etc" looks good. The only thing I would change is order. I'd have future released first and it would go back in history all the way to Warty Warthog.-- Larr¥ 15:17, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

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each release might just end up being stubs. So I think we should start by expanding each section as you suggest with more information on packages, improvements over previous releases, criticisms, and reviews. I think that's a good start.

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Actually, Canonical, Ltd. is now based in UK, but DMY format still applies there, so here, per MOS. No need to wait on German IP with only 2 edits to date (2018-06-08, as preferred in Germany since day after 04.30.1996 ;). But again per

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OMG! Ubuntu! falls mostly into No.3, sometimes No.4 and frequently No.5. Where it is No.3, replace with the better source. Where it is No.4 replace with the better source. Where it is No.5, consider whether to leave it be and tag with

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and it is much more critical of the smart scopes than Ars Technica was." No it is not; OMG Ubuntu is one persons personal opinion. Before citing web pages, you need to click on the "about us" button and check just who you are citing.

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for instance. However, since the words are simply an alliterative device to distinguish one release from the next, much as the version numbers are, there's no need to link the words any more than there is reason to link the numbers.

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Reliable alternative sources do exist. Ubuntu is notable enough to generate headlines in major publications. Where a better resource is available it should be used and the existing unreliable citations replaced with better sources.

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I see that other people had same idea, but you just deleted their edits. And even you Ahunt have mascot description/link. Up do this point there is not one good argument why you dont like explanation of (one of) Ubunutu Trademarks.

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Standard file manager that every version has. Similar to screenshots of earlier versions. There is no point of screenshot showing just the background picture. File manager window on screenshot would show changes in stock UI.

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First off, this article pertains to Ubuntu Desktop releases, not other variants of the Ubuntu system. It is also not a new Ubuntu release, but rather a new interface for netbooks on top of Ubuntu Desktop version 10.04. The

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I think from 12.10 onwards, the normal releases will be supported for full 2 years instead of just 18 months. I'm not sure if that is extended or standard support, though, and I also don't know how to change the timeline.

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For normal 18-month releases, we will only accept updates to the kernel for 3-4 months after release. At this point we consider the in-development release to be stable enough for testing, and the primary target for fixing

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Here's what I read: "future plans" and "code name". That's all that's necessary. There's nothing else in there that convinces me that there is a link between the code names and the alliterations that they have chosen.

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There seems to be a bit of an edit war going on over when Ubuntu 8.04 desktop support expires. Having gone through reams of the usual totally disorganized Ubuntu documentation all I have found is the same information:

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I think we can end this discussion before it gets any worse. Essentially one editor wants to add links to animal articles to this article, but there is a consensus here not to do that. Article content is decided by

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All the above tell the same story and all of them are correct, but which would you choose for the source of a Knowledge artilce. I think it is clear that the Nature Magazine is the reliable source as defined at

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Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog), released on 20 October 2004, was Canonical's first release of Ubuntu, building upon Debian GNU/Linux with plans for a new release every six months and eighteen months of support

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Whatever happened to this idea? This article does need a major cleanup, but I'm not sure how to do it. Perhaps articles could be written for each LTS release and a general re-organization for the article.

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not care much about labeling a source reliable or not. At least in this case. Not saying you they are always right, but can you point me something included where OMG Ubuntu is wrong that has be referenced?

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is also the author. The claim that it is published by OHSO is also odd because OHSO created by Mr Sneddon who is the principal writer of OMG Ubuntu and all the other OHSO titles. Oddly, at the sister site

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If it not a reliable source, how do you know it is correct. Perhaps because you have a second better source that agrees with the unreliable one. In that case, quote the second better source not the first.

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Agreed. I'm not disagreeing that support won't end in April, but it's not clear whether it's the start or end of April. Until a clear announcement is made, and hence we have a reference, we can't assume.

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12.04 continues to be supported for Advantage customers until 2019. I added this fact in the section for the release, but not sure how to add it to the table, since LTS support ended, but ESM continues.

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All these sources say the same thing. The are all correct that Thunderbird is the default email app in 11.10. However, one is user generated content and two are self published blogs. That leaves us with

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South Africa, Canonical was founded in the United Kingdom. Before making inaccurate comments and insert things into articles while asking others to read things, take the time to read them yourself. -

2099:; a discussion will now take place over on Commons about whether to remove the file. This gives you an opportunity to contest the deletion, although please review Commons guidelines before doing so. 4143: 996:

Apart from the Windows 7 correction can it be made clear also that for Windows (and possibly Mac, if applicable) that it is the general public release date that is used and not the RTM date too.

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I changed the link to a version I uploaded on Knowledge, rather than Wikimedia Commons. The licensing is the same as previous screenshots, and I have nominated the wikimedia copy for deletion. -

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The caption is correct as the screen shot was taken before the beta was released, despite what the photo file details say. It will be replaced with a screenshot from the stable soon anyway! -

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I noticed that the caption for the 11.4 screenshot is noted as being from Alpha, but clicking on the link says it's a beta screenshot. Could someone verify and correct this inconsistancy?

846:). I was about to do an RFD, but I figured I would bring it up here first. I think most, if not all, of these redirect pages should be deleted for now. With no official announcement from 3265:

OMG and Lynch have been debated before on the reliable sources noticeboard and found to be acceptable. Lynch is widely published elsewhere in this subject area and meets the exclusion at

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Looking at our article, take one claim, for example the article says that in Ubuntu 11.10 "Mozilla Thunderbird has replaced the Evolution email client" we have several possible source:

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You're not asking us to link to the numbers used in the version. It's odd that you would request links to one method of distinguishing versions but not another. We could easily link to

2009: 2761:, that doesn't appear to be the case here. Being inspired to name something after an animal does not mean that the project name needs to be wikilinked to that animal, any more than 4615:

I would lean toward your TRIVIA claim. Why stop at Debian? We don't list the kernel, which I think is more useful to record for encyclopedic reasons. Understanding why is key here.

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section. I have to question this source as it seems to be a blog written principally by just one author, working alone with no editorial oversight or control. It is exactly what

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Although it needs a citation based on your comments. Since it can't be downloaded or found on ubuntu.com and it's specific to ARM processors, it may need to be removed anyhow. --

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What do you mean by "file manager"? Do you mean Nautilus (or its eventual replacement)? I do not see many of those at the commons category. Could you please link to an example?

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Or is it a weblication - a desktop application that seamlessly integrates the web!" This hare has legs - and horns - and we'll be exploring it in much more detail for Jaunty.

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I agree it is a matter of taste - personally I prefer "clean" shots that show the wallpaper evolution over time, rather than cluttering the shot up with the file manager. -

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the Table of versions can - and should - retain YYYY-MM-DD for sortability and happy congruence with Canonical's semantic versioning scheme of YY-MM. On to next crisis. -

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on the Ubuntu Wiki, Ubuntu 11.10 will be released on October 13 and there has previously been an error in the opening lines of that section as far as that is concerned.

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You're talking to me as if I was a rookie who had his first month of Knowledge experience, LOL. But you're right, o. c.: this would be OR. Anyways, what about this ref:

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If you can show how there's a link to the following terms, it would be reasonable to add them, in the same way that there are links to X.Org, GNOME, and Canonical Ltd.

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Since the discussion IS here, I would like to hijack it a bit.. I've been wandering about the general issue (maybe should discuss elsewhere..). There are four cases:

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I think it is sad how boring this is. You have it from founder of Ubuntu project and still u continue, without giving any good reason. From link above, symbolism by

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and check the coding for it you will find that the Win7 release is set at 22 October 2009. All the dates on the chart for all OS are for general public releases. -

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Actually, I quite like it. Dull, perhaps, but the reddishness added to it helps the colour a lot. I always thought Intrepid's desktop looked like a coffee stain. -

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https://web.archive.org/20080507183105/http://arstechnica.com:80/news.ars/post/20071101-ubuntu-developer-summit-lays-out-vision-for-strong-hardy-heron-release.html

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Okay it has now been a week since this was proposed, so I think we have a consensus to remove software that isn't included with the CD ISO, which I will now do. -

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and trivia. Before it is added back in please provide a ref for the numbers and explain why you think it is not trivia and is worthwhile adding to this article. -

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My comment was a bit terse so let me clarify. I'm not saying it shouldn't be there or that it should be, I'm just trying to understand why it should be included.

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I'm not sure what that means. I'm going to ignore you until you make a concrete expectation of what you'd like to see happen and after you acknowledge reading

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The article is "List of Ubuntu releases" not "List of Ubuntu desktop releases". I've restored it since it's been approved by canonical. Shouldn't we be adding

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Ubuntu much of what they publish is only available there or sometimes in primary sources, making them a useful source. The other sources you note are mostly

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I read on Softpedia that Ubuntu 9.10 won't have a new theme. Softpedia quoted the information from Shuttleworth I believe. Is Softpedia a reliable source?

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Beyond the sources listed above, the article relies very heavily on primary sources e.g. ubuntu.org, markshuttleworth.com, and canonical.com. Note that

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says, "Knowledge articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources."

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It would be nice to see at least the linux kernel version in each release added back in some fashion. I thought this was useful information to have.

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that it's extremely hard to catch, and breeds only when lightning flashes .Let's see if we can make booting or resuming Ubuntu blindingly quick.

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I think we should take off the table applications that haven't ever been in the default installation. Empathy should be included in the table. --

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I don't know if this has been discussed before, but shouldn't the different versions have their own article? This works fine for Microsoft, with

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which specifically prohibits this sort of trivia. It may be useful, but it doesn't belong in an encyclopedia, any more than, say, recipes do. -

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But the Version timeline below shows that it's Extended Security Maintenance. Which for the other versions isn't counted about public updated.

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is that he has that that knowledge and experience—Sneddon does not as illustrated by that lack of other publications syndicating his work. --

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PN is quite right, to add this you need to cite a reliable reference that states this, not just your interpretation of this, as explained in

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That is what I first thought when I saw Intrepid's desktop, too - "coffee stain". I guess I was expecting Jaunty's desktop to look more like

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I defend OMG Ubuntu for some things. I just have not spoken up about it because the other editor is capable of using the source correctly.

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Okay :) Well, I supposed so, but since I'm new to the article I wanted to check if there had been discussion on this before. But I'll try.

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the guest writers bio reads "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet..." that really does not look like a publication with strong editorial values. --

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is original research, pure and simple. It is the editor's personal interpretation of what the animal being used is referring to, as per "

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Some Ubuntu LTS versions keep the same name and number while undergoing significant kernel upgrades. For example, Precise Pangolin 12.04

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Yes, Canonical headquarters are in London, but it is common practise to have offices around the world, but we all know where it started.

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In short, the names are code names and are unrelated to the animals. This was already discussed on the main operating system article. --

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don't need to be linked because they code name does not describe the version nor does it enhance the understanding of the codebase. --

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Please to keep adding file manger window on screenshots, so it would show some example of UI, rather than just a background picture.

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Would you exclude his blog or that article? What about the journalistic (assuming, could have been the BBC) articles he references:

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What kind of "18 month support" really means "3-4 month support for kernel bugs"? False and misleading. Case in point? Consider

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releases rather than playing "one of these things is not like the other" and eliminating the ones that don't match the others? --

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Not sure what this is about but if kernel support is only four months, then we could modify the article to reflect that, with a

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And actually doesn't even show the info about the extended support to 2028 that Mark Shuttleworth announced. Which is strange.

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OpenOffice has now been replaced by libreoffice in Natty. I guess we just need to find a reliable source which backs this up.

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You (again) deleted OTHER animals (including the ones that other users edited months ago), delete just what you KNOW is wrong

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on either side. So it means nothing at all other than proving my point that I am not alone in complaining about OMG Ubuntu.

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is acceptable, since a reason is given to the actual animal. Linking the code names just so that they're linked is not. --

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as well as users edit summaries in this article. You claim that OMG has a staff of writers and editorial oversight while

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Since silence is the weakest form, I'll add a voice. I liked the table but it was a change log and selective at best. --

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that is another article. It is about Ubuntu in general. This is about release and it would be nice to se distro mascot

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So are we sure enough that current date for end of public support (2028-04) is wrong? Or is that simply a confusion?

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I don't think we need to keep changing these, it would be fine to list the kernel at release. For that matter, see

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As I added above to this same question: I disagree. This table is far to big and unwieldy as it as and borders on

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This page isn't really about history, as it includes future releases. Maybe it should be just "Ubuntu Releases"?

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But there is explanation why it is named that way. This have nothing with code. If you dont like my link place,

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Agreed. Not being installed by default is not a reason for striking it out, since MySQL and PHP aren't either. --

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and also notable publications which have their own wikipedia pages. Why shouldn't that reference be changed to

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Sounds like a worthwhile project to look at. The key limitation is going to be finding sufficient and detailed

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I notice in the history edit summaries that one user wrote "I think the Sneddon review should remina. It is a

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There's not much automatic about it. Debian is already listed twice. Repeated mentions are unnecessary.

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If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with

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libreoffice or openoffice, and so a lot of useful information). Sources could be obtained straight from

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and it is same mistake that there are no animals in names (Mark Shuttleworth and Ubunutu say there is)

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The other just entered at end saying that it is not named after animals. Mark Shuttleworth say it is.

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If it is not reliable and know it is incorrect then obviously you don't use it in a Knowledge article

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because Jim Lynch is experienced in writing for many tech magazines but still is just a one man blog

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http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_Ubuntu_releases&diff=555077525&oldid=555076259

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Well I don't think so, but then I added the two quotes. Both are critical of the release and the

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to select an adjective and animal to match the upcoming release letter. The rest is nonsense. --

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Pidgin is 2.6.1 in Karmic publishing, so it should still be included, maybe have it italicized.

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Sure, as long as it is not the same as the Intrepid one that was used during earlier testing! -

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of that one, and the discussion is about the same topic, wikilinking the animal names. While

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I think we have a pretty firm consensus to not do this. Speaking of animals, please refer to

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the impression that Knowledge is unreliable because it allows such sources to be referenced.

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This table in the article includes version histories of some applications. Earlier in June

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There's nothing there that indicates that it's the official replacement for OpenOffice. --

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You are right... Or maybe "Timeline of Ubuntu releases"? or "List of Ubuntu releases"?

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Ahunt, I would like to try and fix up this article, but I need help. I'm much more of a

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Ubuntu. Why bother excluding those or ALL of the articles? This is not rocket science..

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lists the release as 10.04. In addition when downloading the netbook version on the

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The reliable source is correct so use its information and cite it in the references.

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All I did was adding small link so people can see what animal is mascot for distro.

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Africa. The only thing remotely African about Canonical is Mark Shuttleworth being

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Read Ref 8. It cleary shows it is animal (and there are even links to that animals)

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I see this is first time you read about Ubuntu. Second part (of the name) is animal

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I don't understand why it's important to list the corresponding Debian version.

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If you bothered to look, you would find that link is now going to (just)Badger

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then you may need to upload it to Knowledge (Commons does not allow fair use)

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Honey Badger is behind us, we are now talking about you removing other names

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Ibix release have Ibix as background and Narwhal have Narwhal as background

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Talk:Ubuntu (operating system)#Merger proposal with list of releases page

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after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add

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for 12.04 LTS. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Precise Pangolin.

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I have come to the same conclusion and have removed it completely. --

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There are some specific goals that we need to meet in Jaunty. One of

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about Jaunty should be audited closely to make sure it is accurate.

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with Honey Badger problem. (And I reverted Honey Badger to Badger)

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and they are located in South Africa and use that date format.

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False and Misleading Claims about Canonical's Support Policy

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You've been warned about personal attacks by another editor

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please complete the listing... , thank you very much.

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The road to Jaunty: a look back at Ubuntu's history

357:I've proposed to clean up table to look like this: 3228:bugs.launchpad.net forums are not reliable sources 3829:both of which are reliable sources as defined at 1610:Banshee becomes Ubuntu 11.04 default music player 4641:packages from debian. Then, as explained in the 4128:http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/610 4118:http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/606 2605:And to finish this here is what founder have to 1723:This statement which is found on the main page: 1395:, the filename is ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso 714:Yes, Softpedia is considered a reliable source. 3208:Other dubious source in this article include: 4263:DMY is the correct format as Ubuntu is run by 3092:Do you have a reference that shows two years? 2637:...what does that have to do with anything? - 2552:that exactly what I was saying the entire time 964:I think you are confusing this discussion for 3861:Ubuntu 9.04 was the first version to support 2385:. (Also, the company is not from Africa.) - 2377:What you just said is the very definition of 1188:I think the whole thing should be removed. - 171:Misinformation restored, section re-deleted. 8: 2064:File:Ubuntu 11.04.png Nominated for Deletion 2008:Why is this being discussed here as well as 1015:Actually if you look carefully at the chart 155:Do not just restore the deletion, check it. 4689:https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle 4559: 4108:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseNotes 2967:of web services and desktop applications. 2954:We want Ubuntu to boot as fast as possible 997: 382:Your cleaned up table looks good to me! - 3629:{{Better source|reason=|date=April 2014}} 3050:Something is definitively broken over at 1608:That isn't a citable source, but this is 927:This table has now been removed twice as 408:List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Table_of_versions 4545:Ubuntu based on Debian (version history) 4444:I added some screenshots that might fit: 4138:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes 3942:times...wish we had it back then. -andy 2958:The Jackalope is known for being so fast 4637:you will see that ubuntu automatically 4449: 1387:article does not mention 10.07 and the 674:9.10 Will not have a new default theme 410:doesn't currently reflect this fact. 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 4767:When Ubuntu 19.10 added to the tabel? 3980:https://launchpad.net/glibc/+packages 2082:, has been nominated for deletion at 148:Removed Tainted Information on Jaunty 7: 1756:are not supported by this evidence. 1585:Libre office instead of Open Office? 1288:Thanks! I was wondering about it. 657:I've started a merger discussion at 3231:desktoplinuxreviews.com might pass 2765:should be wikilinked as "Microsoft 2494:Code names are unrelated to animals 2383:does not support what you're saying 2114:then it cannot be uploaded or used. 1238:#Version history of common programs 782:section and removed the tag. The 2146:Version history of common programs 2120:image page (File:Ubuntu 11.04.png) 1051:Version history of common programs 449:Seperate articles for each version 24: 4787:Minor releases information/policy 4068:. Please take a moment to review 4015:I'm afraid there isn't. :( -andy 3956:Personal observations come under 817:Multiple future release redirects 4740: 4488: 4476: 4464: 4452: 4174: 3879: 3773:alexa-dollythesheep.blogspot.com 3274:and really need backing up with 2965:Another goal is the the blurring 2071: 1479:http://www.markshuttleworth.com/ 29: 4284:is not a Canonical enterprise. 3150:Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) 3112:Cleanup (of development issues) 2727:it is not the same as mine edit 2550:For your honey badger comment, 2078:An image used in this article, 4771:(Version timeline) Mis them. ( 3064:19:53, 13 September 2012 (UTC) 3052:Template:Timeline Ubuntu Linux 3045:18:39, 13 September 2012 (UTC) 2177:. As this table runs afoul of 1718: 1373:22:07, 10 September 2010 (UTC) 1184:. As this table runs afoul of 1017:Template:Timeline Ubuntu Linux 917:19:20, 11 September 2009 (UTC) 521:to support adding the text! - 350:(This proposition was made on 1: 4625:18:58, 27 November 2018 (UTC) 4608:18:31, 27 November 2018 (UTC) 4590:16:08, 27 November 2018 (UTC) 4574:16:01, 27 November 2018 (UTC) 4387:17:18, 3 September 2018 (UTC) 4365:13:07, 3 September 2018 (UTC) 4217:05:18, 24 February 2016 (UTC) 2969:"Is it a deer? Is it a bunny? 2840:No, we dont have a consensus. 2678:What consenus? There is just 2571:(Considering how you handled 1650:covers it. I'll add it in. - 1043:19:13, 1 September 2010 (UTC) 902:14:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC) 195:00:20, 22 February 2009 (UTC) 181:00:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC) 166:06:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC) 138:18:56, 19 November 2008 (UTC) 124:16:26, 19 November 2008 (UTC) 106:01:07, 18 November 2008 (UTC) 91:23:34, 17 November 2008 (UTC) 4535:13:55, 27 January 2022 (UTC) 4513:10:50, 27 January 2022 (UTC) 4432:10:41, 27 January 2022 (UTC) 4417:22:48, 26 January 2022 (UTC) 4237:13:21, 2 December 2017 (UTC) 3298:reliable sources noticeboard 3182:12:57, 22 October 2013 (UTC) 3163:11:35, 22 October 2013 (UTC) 3106:14:00, 21 October 2012 (UTC) 3086:11:40, 21 October 2012 (UTC) 2088:Deletion requests April 2012 1836:Hardy Heron end of life date 1734:Contradicts this statement: 1692:15:24, 20 January 2011 (UTC) 1674:15:09, 20 January 2011 (UTC) 1660:14:29, 20 January 2011 (UTC) 1638:09:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC) 1622:23:51, 29 October 2010 (UTC) 1603:23:15, 29 October 2010 (UTC) 778:I've added citations to the 754:Glad to be of service. :) -- 697:Ubuntu 9.10 Alpha 2 Released 359:Ubuntu Releases table mockup 2341:Reference 8 in this article 2300:Adding wikilinks to animals 2203:I will remove the table. - 2086:in the following category: 1573:17:13, 7 October 2010 (UTC) 1545:13:56, 7 October 2010 (UTC) 1517:03:18, 7 October 2010 (UTC) 1503:02:50, 7 October 2010 (UTC) 1475:http://releases.ubuntu.com/ 1460:01:15, 7 October 2010 (UTC) 1441:21:55, 6 October 2010 (UTC) 1427:21:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC) 1408:21:06, 6 October 2010 (UTC) 949:http://packages.ubuntu.com/ 882:18:44, 10 August 2009 (UTC) 669:18:38, 10 August 2009 (UTC) 18:Talk:Ubuntu version history 4813: 4759:16:41, 15 March 2019 (UTC) 4731:16:28, 15 March 2019 (UTC) 4704:23:47, 14 March 2019 (UTC) 4669:23:44, 16 March 2019 (UTC) 4655:12:36, 16 March 2019 (UTC) 4086:|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} 4061:Hello fellow Wikipedians, 3897:18:43, 21 March 2015 (UTC) 3874:00:02, 17 March 2015 (UTC) 3847:02:18, 13 April 2014 (UTC) 3737:16:25, 12 April 2014 (UTC) 3720:18:11, 10 April 2014 (UTC) 3690:17:37, 10 April 2014 (UTC) 3676:16:17, 10 April 2014 (UTC) 2508:Ubunutu named them, not me 2022:14:00, 19 April 2011 (UTC) 1999:11:41, 19 April 2011 (UTC) 1981:05:37, 19 April 2011 (UTC) 1828:00:20, 18 March 2011 (UTC) 1802:00:07, 18 March 2011 (UTC) 1782:23:59, 17 March 2011 (UTC) 1766:20:34, 17 March 2011 (UTC) 1714:07:11, 26 April 2012 (UTC) 1144:12:30, 3 August 2010 (UTC) 865:17:38, 5 August 2009 (UTC) 646:17:46, 5 August 2009 (UTC) 619:16:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC) 588:15:49, 5 August 2009 (UTC) 566:12:33, 5 August 2009 (UTC) 551:00:09, 5 August 2009 (UTC) 392:20:47, 17 April 2009 (UTC) 377:20:32, 17 April 2009 (UTC) 332:13:58, 28 March 2009 (UTC) 302:13:43, 28 March 2009 (UTC) 272:13:27, 28 March 2009 (UTC) 250:12:42, 28 March 2009 (UTC) 232:12:40, 28 March 2009 (UTC) 217:12:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC) 3562:21:36, 9 April 2014 (UTC) 3543:17:49, 9 April 2014 (UTC) 3527:16:57, 9 April 2014 (UTC) 3454:14:27, 7 April 2014 (UTC) 3435:05:05, 7 April 2014 (UTC) 3420:11:22, 6 April 2014 (UTC) 3404:07:23, 6 April 2014 (UTC) 3376:11:56, 5 April 2014 (UTC) 3361:05:35, 5 April 2014 (UTC) 3346:01:18, 5 April 2014 (UTC) 3323:13:32, 4 April 2014 (UTC) 3288:16:49, 3 April 2014 (UTC) 3260:09:38, 3 April 2014 (UTC) 3223:stgraber.org one man blog 2513:Ubuntu is not from Africa 2137:14:56, 8 April 2012 (UTC) 2057:16:00, 30 July 2011 (UTC) 1961:20:50, 9 April 2011 (UTC) 1945:20:18, 9 April 2011 (UTC) 1885:22:33, 2 April 2011 (UTC) 1871:22:25, 2 April 2011 (UTC) 1855:21:53, 2 April 2011 (UTC) 1680:some sources of confusion 1487:http://www.canonical.com/ 1385:Ubuntu_(operating_system) 1298:07:57, 30 June 2010 (UTC) 1283:11:54, 29 June 2010 (UTC) 1268:09:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC) 1115:15:12, 30 June 2010 (UTC) 1106:11:59, 30 June 2010 (UTC) 1092:02:42, 29 June 2010 (UTC) 1073:11:29, 28 June 2010 (UTC) 1029:10:27, 13 June 2010 (UTC) 941:13:54, 11 June 2010 (UTC) 811:18:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC) 796:18:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC) 764:05:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC) 742:17:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC) 724:16:50, 22 June 2009 (UTC) 709:07:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC) 691:07:35, 22 June 2009 (UTC) 443:19:23, 19 July 2016 (UTC) 424:13:15, 19 July 2016 (UTC) 4781:18:49, 22 May 2019 (UTC) 4422:taste, which differs. -- 4339:05:00, 8 June 2018 (UTC) 4320:22:53, 7 June 2018 (UTC) 4294:22:37, 7 June 2018 (UTC) 4277:22:27, 7 June 2018 (UTC) 4258:22:23, 7 June 2018 (UTC) 4039:11:03, 11 May 2015 (UTC) 4025:00:24, 11 May 2015 (UTC) 3590:. 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I'll fix it. - 1678:I am starting to see 1207:to take the decision. 477:separate articles. - 42:of past discussions. 4171:to let others know. 4072:. If necessary, add 2759:consensus can change 2658:, so case closed. - 2413:DevelopmentCodeNames 2032:As per the official 116:Themagicmanfromtrent 4633:If you look at the 4265:Canonical (company) 4167:parameter below to 3153:too quote-heavy? -- 2952:them is boot time. 2618:Now, I’ve recently 1925:Ubuntu 11.4 Picture 870:RFD is in progress 607:Full Circle Issue 0 4505:PantheraLeo1359531 4424:PantheraLeo1359531 4402:PantheraLeo1359531 3999:C standard library 3490:Now also consider 2753:This article is a 2112:fair use rationale 4576: 4564:comment added by 4495:Software overview 4483:Software overview 4282:English Knowledge 4215: 3962:a reliable source 3958:original research 3768:unexplainable.net 3584:Original research 3147:Isn't subsection 3076:comment added by 3007:this sort of edit 3005:Just to clarify, 2941:Mark Shuttleworth 2730:it is 2 years old 2368: 2351:comment added by 2317:original research 2237:comment added by 2157:comment added by 2143: 2142: 2092:What should I do? 2084:Wikimedia Commons 2060: 2043:comment added by 1935:comment added by 1612:. 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