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I agree also that an image made on zero reliable data should not be added to an article, especially a modern image not from any notable person. If so, anyone can sketch an image and post it on wikipedia. The page must revert the before the addition was made. And no one but the poster sees this image
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It is even on the same page, check "personal section" you will see information including his height, complexion, etc. The then Sokoto is nowhere near desert. What you read is the Sokoto that Murray Last visited. Infact, he made comparison between the Sokoto described in Muhammed Bello's work and the
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To your second point, the picture is not my "opinion" and it does not violate the original research policy of Knowledge (XXG). The image is an attempt to recreate what the person look like. At the time of the reign of the concerned person, Camera was not invented, but in the book "Infakul Maisur" he
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That image is not a sketch and it is not correct. It does not even count as a depiction as it has no connection in likeness or environment to Usman dan Fodio. Putting the greenery aside, there are many other questions: Which mountain range is in the background? What type of horse is it? What saddle
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Secondly, this is how Sokoto looks like (may be as at then). If you read the same book and that of Murray Last, the jihadist decided to build the their new capital (Sokoto) because of two reasons; First, that it is because it is a grassland. They are nomadic herders looking for grasslands to settle
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The image has no relevance to the article though. It is an AI generated picture of a man wearing clothing from the middle east riding a horse in an environment that looks nothing like Sokoto. Can you please send me the page number where Bello gave his description of Usman in Infaq al-Maysur?
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for the edit making the clarification I was seeking. I think he deserves an award. This is a slightly political point of view, but in this day and age, when the "fundamentalist" right-wing of Islam co-opts people like him, it is very important to point out that the right way to start a
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I agree with the concern being raised. An art work from the period would be acceptable as it would clearly be identifiable as the artist's impression. An image generated now based on zero reliable data is misleading as well as having zero relevance to the article.
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and feed their cattle. The second reason they choose the area is due to a source of water. The source of water is not depicted anyway but all other geographical features described in the book were depicted in the picture.
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PS: in case you are wondering about the heading above, it is the exclamation a Hausa-Fulani might utter where an English-speaking Westerner would go "Jesus Christ!" ("Manu" is a Hausa shortform/nickname for "Usman(u)")
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You are wrong here. AI generated images are allowed on Knowledge (XXG). When uploading the picture, it asks if it is an AI-generated or not. It also ask the tool or the tools used in generating the images.
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Saw that this had a "wikify" tag, so I fixed the internal refs, and collected others. Re-wrote the introduction, but the body still needs a re-write for style and the adition/ streamlining of content.
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is being used? What clothing is being worn? These are questions that an actual artist could answer as they would have done research to confirm historical accuracy, but here there is no explanation.
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Read my explanation above. Sketches are accepted on Knowledge (XXG). It can be from any artist. The most important thing here is the correctness or otherwise of the depiction.
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There are no pictures in the 10th or 12th century for example, so we use art to represent Jesus, Newton or Galileo. It is the same case here.
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Sokoto he visited when collecting the manuscripts. He said it is now a big town, not the original dimension and design given by Bello.
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Kindly check the image description and read Knowledge (XXG)'s guidelines on AI-generated images!. Stop taking hasty decisions.
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just because you were allowed to upload an image to wikimedia commons does not mean you can put it on just any article.
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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That AI generated picture has no connection to Usman dan Fodio. How is it relevant to the article? Check
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The picture satisfied all Knowledge (XXG) guidelines. Why do you continue the disruptive editing ?
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The page lacks organisation. Events do not follow sequences, there are alot of repetitions.
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The "Lineage" should be moved to "Early Life" under "lineage" subsection and so on
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was described. It is using this description that I generated the picture.
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I suggest the page is organised into these chapters and subchapters
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can you please send the page where Bello described Usman?
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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Pics like that have no value on en-WP. Don't add them.
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