416:"In their description of Voalavo, Carleton and Goodman argued that, although closely related, Eliurus and Voalavo form separate monophyletic groups; but a 1999 molecular phylogenetic study by Sharon Jansa and colleagues, who compared cytochrome b sequences among nesomyines and other rodents, found that Voalavo gymnocaudus was more closely related to Eliurus grandidieri than to other species of Eliurus. This finding called into question the separate generic status of Voalavo. However, support for the relationship between V. gymnocaudus and E. grandidieri was relatively weak and Eliurus petteri, a species that is thought to be closely related to E. grandidieri, could not be sampled genetically. Data from nuclear genes also supports the relationship between V. gymnocaudus and E. grandidieri, but E. petteri remains genetically unstudied and the taxonomic issue has not been resolved."
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Prego! It looks like what you have is fine; if you think further delineation between the two genera is needed, though, add everything you have and we'll fiddle with it all when we get there. Chopping is easier than second guessing. :)
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Update: Your morphology content is good to go! For now, go through the article and police for disambigs and redirect links... I get monkey nerd picky over fixing those. More stuff ahead :)
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