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unless it is part of a person's name (Jones was vice-admiral of the Red, but Vice-admiral of the Red Jones). We lowercase ranks because they are common nouns. If used as part of a person's name, the letter following a hyphen would usually not be capitalized, but if it is capitalized consistently in
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