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selection of Swedish music that the band played on the tourbus." The reason I'm so hesitant on the info in the brackets is because the source describes it as "the latest 30-40 years of Swedish music", but I'll allow you to come up with something that better suits the description given by the source if mine are inadequate.
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I'd also like to see a more cohesive structure instead of just listing off the tracks one by one, as that can be very one-note. For example, one paragraph to something like: "The tracks on Visor från vinden are adapted from the works of several poets and musicians, including . Two of the songs are
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Everything else checks out, but "The songs Karlsson chose to include she describes as "old favorites" that "popped up in the tour bus" is somewhat strange wording. Perhaps replace "old favorites" with something more descriptive like: "Many of the songs Karlsson chose to include on the album are a
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I feel like there's a lot of information here that wouldn't necessarily interest a reader beyond potentially who wrote the original text, what the songs are about, or what the artists had in mind while writing them. All the information about who did what could be put into the "musicians" section
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OK, well, I'll look at them and see what I can archive. I notice that this is not however a GA requirement, but it's obviously a helpful practice. There are only 3 of "these dead links", all to newspaper reviews that were originally printed on paper, and since they broadly concur with the other
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The main thing I'm concerned about with these dead links is that it's difficult to verify whether they were even put to press and released physically in the first place. If they are online-only, and the links are dead, then there's no way to verify whether the information presented is actually
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Please note that sources do not have to be online to be considered reliable and verifiable - a source could be a physical document in the Library of Congress, for instance. The Swedish newspapers cited are valid sources in this regard, whether they are archived or not (not sure we can archive
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OK, I've removed it. Since it was used just for track information, I've replaced it with citations directly to the CD/album cover: that's of course primary, but that's permissible for simple facts about the work. That leaves us with all the article text now cited to reliable sources.
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OK, I've paraphrased some more, but I would note that the whole point of a Reception section is to give voice to the different reviewers; it is well within the limits of fair-use critical analysis to quote a line or two from each of half-a-dozen reviewers.
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reviews in other newspapers, there needn't be much concern about them. I might point out that it is fine for articles to cite obscure books and journals which can only be found in a few libraries, there is no requirement for sources to be online.
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I made some quick edits to wording and fixed two references with broken parameters. I know I said I'd get to the lead, but I'll just write that here instead. There are a few things I'd like to comment on:
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Sonoloco does not seem to be a reliable source, as it is seemingly self-published. Quite a lot of the article is cited to this, but I'd rather take it out then leave in information cited to poor sources.
255:) if there aren't any archives elsewhere. Archiving links is legally grey, but it hasn't been an issue on Knowledge so far. If the copyright holder wants it gone, they can contact the archiving service. 368:"named after a 1917 book of poems by the Swedish proletarian school author Dan Andersson" is not written in the source. This should be easy enough to verify with a source from the respective article. 745:"The album contains "Le Vin Des Amants" translated from the French of Baudelaire and Lars Forsell's free rendering of Boris Vian's "Le Déserteur"." - I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean? 502:
Detailed information about the origins of the songs (e.g. author or tradition) and additional notes could be given in a table instead, as that is easier to digest than lines of prose.
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Maybe change opening line to "... received mixed to positive reception, with an average score of 3.4/5 on review aggregator Kriker.se." to provide context for what Kriker.se even is.
442:""Näckaspel" and "Jag längtar" were recorded by Esbjörn Hazelius in Niglahol Studios and "Valsen till mig" in Studio Atlantis by Olle Linder". Add a comma after "Niglahol Studios". 835:
I still feel like there's a lot of long quotes, especially the third and fourth paragraphs (I've also commented this further up, but I feel like it's worth point out here as well)
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that previosly called itself Dansk Grammy. This is written in the second paragraph, so just move it up to the first one (it doesn't really need its own line either).
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also from traditional Scandinavian music". The next paragraph could be about their decisions to include certain tracks, or what their thoughts were on them, etc.
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Paraphrased a bit more, but really, if we're explaining a work's reception by reviewers, we're certainly allowed to give them voice for a line or two each.
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Rewrite the last paragraph on awards, as it did not win any Grammis (or Grammys), but one award from Manifestgalan, and one from the Danish Music Awards.
434:"Moesta e Errabunda" should be spelled "Moesta et Errabunda" (which is also spelled incorrectly in the first image on the right in the "tracks" section). 122: 883:
The article follows all of the GA criteria, so it looks good to go. Nice work! I know tables can be a real pain to work with, but it came out great!
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Also, maybe something more specific than just "named after", considering all the lyrics on the album are derived from the poem collection.
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I'll get to the rest of the article if these issues are resolved. As it stands, this would be a fail based on the second GA criterion.
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copyrighted content, maybe it'd be ok). I've removed ref 4; all the rest except for Sonoloco seem to be fine, as I hope you'll agree.
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Quite a lot of the sources in the article are dead, so you'd need to find archives for them. As is, they are currently unverifiable.
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These are my last niggles with the article. Guess we'll clear the finish line in about 10 hours after my daily conk-out session.
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performances" - what does "fine" mean here? It can have a lot of definitions (e.g. describing something of either subjective
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This section also has too many images, making them overflow into other sections. I'd suggest removing some of them.
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Before I get to the content of the article itself, I'd quickly like to go through sourcing I found problematic.
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Citations aren't needed after every sentence, so just remove the ones that aren't at the end of the paragraph.
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I feel like some of them are still fairly long, in particular the ones in the third and fourth paragraphs.
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Good idea, it was over-detailed and dull to read. It's now all in a table, with a brief overview in text.
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written there. It could be possible to find physical releases via the National Library of Sweden (
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Many thanks for the exceptionally perceptive review which has sharpened up the article markedly.
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One review is alone on a single line, which gives it a lot of emphasis than it probably needs.
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15 Östgöta Correspondenten, Swedish newspaper, now offline but still a valid reliable source.
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This section needs sourcing if you are to rework the previous section. You could also use
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13 Sundsvalls Tidning, Swedish newspaper, now offline but still a valid reliable source.
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Section relies too heavily on long quotations. Perhaps paraphrase their critiques.
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the best placement she has had, shared by her 2014 album Regnet faller utan oss.
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objective quality), so perhaps a more specific words to describe the reception.
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9 Aftonbladet, Swedish newspaper, now offline but still a valid reliable source.
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here, though that is an entirely stylistic choice. I'll leave that up to you.
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I've what I can into the table, and have added a brief introductory paragraph.
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Ah. Removed. If anyone disagrees, they can bring it back with their reasons.
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Torben Laursen should be described as engineer or technician (with a link to
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Fixed. We often use the full title as people get distinctions of many kinds.
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Thanks for taking this on. I've addressed these preliminary comments above.
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I'll come back to the lead once you're done with the rest of the article
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Alright, I'll get to verifying the actual content of the article now.
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Organised into a (small) gallery. That does seem to work well here.
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Nothing much to note here. See "tracks" comments for suggestions.
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Many thanks, I've added a bunch of archive URLs and dates.
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7 Fleurs du mal / Baudelaire (public domain text), ok
748:Seems plain enough, but I've rewritten it for you. 218:10 Dagens Industri, swedish business newspaper, ok 695:The reference doesn't lead to the album anymore. 804:" songs? I'd say most of them aren't classical. 426:), as "techniques" doesn't really mean much. 8: 239:17 Svenska Dagbladet, national newspaper, ok 230:14 Svenska Dagbladet, national newspaper, ok 224:12 Norran, Swedish newspaper, archived, ok 30: 410:Reworded, hope this works better for you. 656:The album did not win a Grammy (i.e. a 61: 33: 636:The title is better as just "Awards". 800:Is the album really a collection of " 7: 667:Done. However she did win a Swedish 221:11 Expressen, national newspaper, ok 194:2 Karlsson's own site, archived, ok 24: 676:Maybe an interlanguage link for 379:Fixed, "from" seems to cover it. 174:, and I'll be your reviewer. 1: 191:1 DN, national newspaper, ok 242:18 Swedish charts, works ok 911: 477:instead (see for example: 206:6 Svensk Media Databas, ok 660:), but an award from the 484:Removed the who-did-what. 893:12:34, 2 June 2022 (UTC) 879:06:12, 2 June 2022 (UTC) 864:23:34, 1 June 2022 (UTC) 782:19:47, 1 June 2022 (UTC) 753:Add critical reception. 721:19:10, 1 June 2022 (UTC) 619:06:14, 2 June 2022 (UTC) 604:22:06, 1 June 2022 (UTC) 565:17:33, 1 June 2022 (UTC) 548:16:14, 1 June 2022 (UTC) 460:14:20, 1 June 2022 (UTC) 405:14:00, 1 June 2022 (UTC) 353:13:48, 1 June 2022 (UTC) 339:13:31, 1 June 2022 (UTC) 325:13:15, 1 June 2022 (UTC) 310:10:50, 1 June 2022 (UTC) 295:13:14, 1 June 2022 (UTC) 265:13:25, 1 June 2022 (UTC) 161:10:50, 1 June 2022 (UTC) 631:Awards and distinctions 197:3 Itunes, info only, ok 812:"reviewers noting the 528:Template:Track listing 18:Talk:Visor från vinden 203:5 Sonoloco, see below 200:4 dead link, removed. 236:16 Manifestgalan, ok 662:Danish Music Awards 646:Danish Music Awards 699:is the fixed one. 481:for inspiration). 788:Finishing remarks 768:comment added by 391:comment added by 212:8 Kritiker.se, ok 89: 88: 902: 784: 683:Of course. 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