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It is up to the proposer and supporters of a move to provide these. Perhaps I didn't make that clear above. Until and unless they are provided, there should be no move. I agree that a move of some sort is probably justified, but the current proposal gives no valid rationale, and nor does your
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The amazon link provided by the RM initiator clearly provides the English translation along with the published English title and reference #1 in the article. This is clearly the English Knowledge, not the Chinese Knowledge. You got any legitimate arguments?
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Can you provide secondary sources? The proposed name would be the official name but in English translation, and it would be a lot easier to search vs the current title which is just the pronunciation of the Chinese title rendered in English lettering.
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First published in 1978 (not 1977; in fact, the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences itself was not established until May 1977). Would someone correct this, please?
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Yes, if there is consensus to move the article to a new title, the page should be moved according to Knowledge procedure. I have therefore undone the copy move.
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The English translation is obviously going to be the English common name vs the original edition which is the common name for Chinese readers.
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Relisted but not activity for past week; there is consensus to move, but not consensus on what the new title should be. User:Ceyockey (
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You've already done it! My 1983 edition says first published December 1978. The preface confirms the other changes you made -- thanks!
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http://web.archive.org/web/20120901105030/http://www.bbc.co.uk:80/zhongwen/simp/chinese_news/2012/07/120718_china_new_dictionary.shtml
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supporting it. Arguments based on the official name and other primary sources are
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I just provided an academic source that doesn't consider "The" in the title.
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I'll also add the following academic source that mentions the English title:
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http://web.archive.org/web/20100529071209/http://www.cp.com.cn:80/xh/
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http://english.cssn.cn/8204/820402/201207/t20120724_254033.shtml
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are still used too. So I think that line of argument collapses.
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When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the
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Yes, this is English Knowledge, but article titles such as
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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per nom. Also, “The” is part of the official title (see
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a move based on reliable secondary sources in English.
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