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You're right, the historical background is not mentioned in the source, probably because it's common knowledge in China. I found it necessary to add this info to explain why he entered the university in Nanjing but graduated a thousand miles away in Sichuan. I've now added a source for this history.
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At the request of Harrias I have reviewed the status of this image and of the relevant discussions on Commons. The WMF position as expressed in those links appears to be roughly that URAA issues are difficult to judge, that we may not have sufficient information to determine the status of affected
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I've clarified the publication date and original copyright owner (Chinese government). This is a standard photo published by the Chinese government when an officer is awarded a military rank. This file belongs to a special class of images whose copyright has expired in their home country, but was
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Publication date clarified. It's a standard university photo published at graduation. Photographers are almost never named for this kind of photographs. The university likely held the copyright although it's not explicitly stated. In any case, the copyright has long expired.
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All are foreign language, but quick checks with Google translate confirms that they appear to back up the article, except where noted above. There are no concerns with copyvio or close para-phrasing against the translated text, and I will AGF for the original
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I was planning to write articles for all the red links, so didn't put too much thought on cross-wiki linking. I've done a few but haven't got around to write the three remaining ones (though still planning to). I've now added cross-wiki links.
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images, and that such images should be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. The practical interpretation of this at Commons has been the source of disputes, and the current status quo is reflected in the documentation for
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As explained above, this file is not PD in the US because of URAA (unlike the file below, which is covered by PD-1996), but is allowed per Wikimedia policy as it regards URAA copyright as "overreaching" (see
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does not have a US PD tag. Additionally, the Chinese PD tag requires the uploader to "provide where the image was first published and who created it or held its copyright", which has not been done.
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has a US PD tag, but similarly requires the uploader to "provide where the image was first published and who created it or held its copyright", which has not been done for the Chinese PD tag.
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restored in the US after the URAA ruling. Wikimedia has decided that these files are permitted unless they receive a takedown notice from the original copyright owner. See
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I could be wrong, but I don't see the detail of this in the source provided. If it is there, could you provide me with the translation of the relevant section?
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Thanks for your review. I've replied to all your concerns above and edited the article accordingly. Please let me know if you have any further questions. -
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Thanks for your comment. Given the complexity of the issue I agree the easiest solution is to simply remove the image.
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I'm not keen on the short paragraphs in this section, but that is personal preference, and not a GA requirement.
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Do any of the red links have articles in foreign wikis? Xu Chi looks like he might have? If so, consider using
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I found more info from another source, and expanded the section with details of his persecution and death. -
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I know you provide wikilinks, but a bit more context in the article would be appreciated here.
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With the image issue resolved, I'm more than happy to pass this as a good article, good work
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One minor image point, and then we're done. Great work, particularly on the expansion of the
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I've removed the image and moved the one below to the top. BTW, I've also written
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Three of the five paragraphs, and five sentences overall in the section start
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I'll stick the review on hold pending these comments.
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