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303:, I think you'll find that it will be far more than a month or even several will be needed if the same editor does the "cleanup" and the subsequent buildup. Rehabbing an article that you come across a shell of its former self is one thing; gutting it and also doing the subsequent rehab is another. Each case will probably decided on the then-current interpretation of the letter vs. spirit vs. intent of the DYK rules/guidelines by the reviewer and other DYK editors. 160: 246:'s deletions from the article a few weeks ago to the expansion earlier today to 2550 prose characters. Given that it's the same editor doing the deletions and additions not that far apart in time, this is not eligible for DYK unless it is ultimately expanded to 4115 prose characters, requiring an additional 1565 to attain 5x. If that proves infeasible, should the article eventually become a GA, it would be welcome as a resubmission to DYK. 239: 513: 406: 447: 429:
Just realized I forgot a few details for the review: 5x expansion is new enough and I'm counting it as long enough, article and hook appear to be neutral and are adequately sourced, no copyvio or close paraphrasing noted, QPQ review looks okay, hook is a valid length and is interesting enough, image
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I have done a copyedit of the article, which is now 3461 prose characters, so a further expansion will be needed. I had to delete two long phrases because they didn't reflect the information in the sources, on Dix's father, and on the change to the tune making it more "moral". I also condensed the
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Approving ALT1 for promotion; striking the original hook for the reason noted above. While my last round of edits left the article with 4098 prose characters, I'm not going to hold up this nomination for 17 characters; it's close enough under the circumstances. I'll be moving this to the special
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before The C of E/The Royal C began his expansion. That would call for a 5x expansion of 4345 characters. Right now the article is holding at 4130 characters, some 200 characters short. I have opened a slot in Prep 4 in case the expansion can be made in time.
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isn't too clear on that, I had intepreted it as being the previous version and I had felt that 1 month after cleanup would make that sufficient for the starting point. Nevertheless I have carried out the additional expansion to the length as you requested.
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prose where there was repetition between sentences and the like. The two sources I checked used "Conrad Kocher" rather than "Konrad Kocher" (Robert Morgan and Hyperion), so I modified the spelling accordingly.
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for a suggestion, since the original hook's claim of "the only Epiphany hymn" is not backed up by the source, which merely says it's the only
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I'm not clear how you came up with that expansion figure of 4115 prose characters. Looking at the history, it appears the article
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Epiphany hymn that didn't mention these things, not the same thing at all. She offered the following ALT1:
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This is unfortunately not a 5x expansion, but about 3x, from 823 prose characters prior to
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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Terrific, thanks! Restoring tick for ALT1 per BlueMoonset's review.
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occasions section; with luck it will be able to be slotted into
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Source: The Christmas Carol Reader. Haworth Press. pp. 71–72.
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is from Commons and appears original (per description).
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reached its largest character count of 869 characters
108: 484:I've made the expansion so it can be promoted now. 399:as "magi" or "kings", or even state their number? 230:). Self-nominated at 06:16, 1 January 2018 (UTC). 8: 49:No further edits should be made to this page 184:as "magi" or "kings" or state their number? 327:I have now increased the character count. 71: 559:Passed DYK nominations from January 2018 74: 386:: ... that the common Epiphany hymn " 7: 24: 45:Knowledge (XXG) talk:Did you know 18:Template:Did you know nominations 511: 445: 404: 237: 158: 32:Please do not modify this page. 426:) 06:32, 3 January 2018 (UTC) 317:) 00:48, 2 January 2018 (UTC) 1: 524:) 10:51, 3 January 2018 (UTC) 470:) 10:27, 3 January 2018 (UTC) 438:) 07:00, 3 January 2018 (UTC) 361:) 03:19, 3 January 2018 (UTC) 254:) 21:06, 1 January 2018 (UTC) 68:) 10:54, 3 January 2018 (UTC) 347:08:30, 2 January 2018 (UTC) 215:: For Epiphany (6th January) 504:10:44, 3 January 2018 (UTC) 389:As with Gladness Men of Old 293:22:47, 1 January 2018 (UTC) 174:As with Gladness Men of Old 135:As with Gladness Men of Old 37:this nomination's talk page 575: 119:Find sources (notability) 94:Earwig's Copyvio Detector 392:" doesn't describe the 41:the article's talk page 109:A Simple Word Counter 89:Reviewer instructions 492:God Save the Queen! 335:God Save the Queen! 281:God Save the Queen! 268:Strictly speaking, 208:Dunkirk (2017 film) 114:Reviewers' template 414:(or, if promoted, 231: 196: 164:The Biblical Magi 132: 131: 566: 515: 503: 500: 493: 490: 483: 456: 449: 408: 346: 343: 336: 333: 326: 292: 289: 282: 279: 267: 241: 221: 186: 162: 72: 56:The result was: 34: 574: 573: 569: 568: 567: 565: 564: 563: 549: 548: 547: 498: 491: 488: 485: 477: 450: 341: 334: 331: 328: 320: 287: 280: 277: 274: 261: 222:5x expanded by 167: 166: 165: 155: 153: 149:Article history 137: 128: 104:Character count 69: 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 572: 570: 562: 561: 551: 550: 546: 545: 544: 543: 542: 541: 540: 539: 538: 537: 536: 535: 534: 533: 532: 531: 530: 529: 528: 527: 526: 525: 506: 505: 472: 471: 440: 439: 402: 401: 400: 378: 377: 363: 362: 305: 304: 295: 294: 256: 255: 219: 218: 217: 216: 210: 198: 197: 163: 157: 156: 152: 151: 146: 144:Back to T:TDYK 140: 138: 136: 133: 130: 129: 127: 126: 121: 116: 111: 106: 101: 96: 91: 86: 80: 77: 76: 54: 53: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 571: 560: 557: 556: 554: 523: 519: 514: 510: 509: 508: 507: 501: 495: 494: 481: 476: 475: 474: 473: 469: 465: 460: 454: 448: 444: 443: 442: 441: 437: 433: 428: 427: 425: 421: 417: 413: 407: 403: 398: 395: 394:Biblical Magi 391: 390: 385: 382: 381: 380: 379: 375: 371: 367: 366: 365: 364: 360: 356: 352: 349: 348: 344: 338: 337: 324: 319: 318: 316: 312: 307: 306: 302: 299: 298: 297: 296: 290: 284: 283: 271: 265: 260: 259: 258: 257: 253: 249: 245: 240: 236: 235: 234: 233: 232: 229: 225: 214: 211: 209: 205: 202: 201: 200: 199: 194: 193:1-56024-974-9 190: 185: 183: 180: 179:Biblical Magi 176: 175: 169: 168: 161: 150: 147: 145: 142: 141: 134: 125: 122: 120: 117: 115: 112: 110: 107: 105: 102: 100: 97: 95: 92: 90: 87: 85: 82: 81: 79: 78: 73: 70: 67: 63: 59: 52: 50: 46: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 489:The C of E 486: 416:Queue 4 396: 387: 383: 373: 332:The C of E 329: 278:The C of E 275: 220: 212: 203: 181: 172: 170: 57: 55: 48: 31: 28: 453:BlueMoonset 432:BlueMoonset 420:BlueMoonset 412:Prep 4 355:BlueMoonset 323:BlueMoonset 311:BlueMoonset 264:BlueMoonset 248:BlueMoonset 124:Hook length 75:DYK toolbox 397:(pictured) 370:Cwmhiraeth 351:The C of E 301:The C of E 244:The C of E 224:The C of E 182:(pictured) 171:... that " 99:QPQ check 84:DYK check 553:Category 368:I asked 270:WP:DYKSG 204:Reviewed 58:promoted 518:Yoninah 480:Yoninah 464:Yoninah 213:Comment 62:Yoninah 374:famous 191:  16:< 522:talk 499:talk 468:talk 436:talk 424:talk 384:ALT1 359:talk 342:talk 315:talk 288:talk 252:talk 228:talk 189:ISBN 66:talk 418:). 60:by 43:or 555:: 206:: 139:( 39:, 520:( 502:) 496:( 482:: 478:@ 466:( 455:: 451:@ 434:( 422:( 357:( 345:) 339:( 325:: 321:@ 313:( 291:) 285:( 266:: 262:@ 250:( 226:( 195:. 154:) 64:( 51:.

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