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155:? How old is this battery?) Is that battery the same 17th C. fort which it proceeds to discuss? The connection is not made clear. The remainder of the paragraph are just closely-translated excerpts from one site (an official Portuguese monument site, probably reliable) with a series of archival facts about the history of the fort. But I wonder about the choice of selection brought over. Is the fact that the cost of repairs was evaluated (it does not quite say reached) in 1765 at $ 100,000 particularly interesting? It would be better to have chosen the note that by 1792 it was reported to be practically in ruins, to give some better idea of when the fort was decommissioned. Overall, it doesn't quite meet the length as is, and given the close paraphrasing of the wording, both from 1864 guide and the Portuguese website, it doesn't really pass the 227:"Algarve" and "Faro District" are one and the same thing. Like "Brooklyn" and "King's County". Faro District is the official administrative name of the Algarve, which, of couse, nobody really uses or would recognize. If you say "Faro", people assume you mean the municipality. Hence the prospect of confusion (I was confused). If there is another Carrapateira in the Algarve, then it is also in Faro District, so that's not a disambiguator. In that case, you should use the municipality name, Aljezur, as the disambiguator (although the only other Carrapateira I am aware of is in Brazil, so I think "Carrapateira (Algarve)" should be fine). 147: 274: 342: 299: 219:
Oh, I know its public domain. And I know Wiki is pretty loose with plagiarized PD sections. The query is whether this close copying counts for the total length (Rule 2b of DYK). I know this is a very small location and it might be hard to find much to say about it. But that whole paragraph could be
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Date is fine, length (1,483) is a smidgen below the required length, but potentially passable. Some discomfort with the prose composition - a little too-close citation. e.g. "On a ridge of sand near the village are the ruins of a battery erected to protect the inhabitants against the irruptions of
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Note: have just changed "Carrapateira, Faro" to "Carrapateira, Aljezur" to reflect Dr. Blofeld's move of the article per the previous comment. Excluding the number of characters in the PD material reduces the prose count but here does not affect the article's eligibility; however, the change of
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As the article has just undergone a major revision and expansion by Walrasiad, it needs a new review from a new, impartial reviewer. The PD material is no longer reproduced, so it is not an issue. I have added a DYKmake template for Walrasiad, as credit is due there.
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the Moors" (given in the text without quotations marks) is actually a direct word-for-word quotation from an 1864 travel guide, given in the present tense, implying those ruins are still there today. And no sense of context or timing.(
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article fine, well sourced, offline sources accepted AGF. I suggest to start the hook with known things rather than a lot of Portuguese, and added a quote from one of the sources about why it's one of the best:
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The hook is a little ostentatious, a claim coming only from one British newspaper travel section, but I suppose passable. I would prefer it if was supplemented with references from other travel sources, e.g.
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a reliable mainstream newspaper which backs up the hook. Length and article should be fine. There are two villages in Algarve with the same name, hence the district suffix.♦
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website, but these sections are frequently promotional. Supplementing it with more respected travel references (e.g. the Michelin cite above) would help strengthen it.
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rewritten in more original prose, and more clearly, without mysterious "Moorish irruptions". The newspaper is the
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I personally prefer the original hook, which seems punchier, but ALT1 is acceptable. Good to go either way.
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Also, I would prefer it if the title was changed. It gives the misleading impression Carrapateira is in
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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for original content length. It would be preferable to give the prose another look and wash.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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The 1864 book is PD and its credited so is freely useable. Its called
47:), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. 84: 100:, has been cited as one of the best beaches in the 178:" being far better known and common name than " 8: 49:No further edits should be made to this page 366:Passed DYK nominations from October 2012 309:... that one of the best beaches in the 7: 66:  19:18, 18 November 2012 (UTC) 24: 133:) at 22:14, 15 October 2012 (UTC) 94:... that Praia da Bordeira, near 18:Template:Did you know nominations 340: 297: 272: 145: 353:) 18:07, 18 November 2012 (UTC) 331:) 10:31, 13 November 2012 (UTC) 190:) 06:09, 16 October 2012 (UTC) 32:Please do not modify this page. 286:) 15:48, 4 November 2012 (UTC) 259:) 19:22, 25 October 2012 (UTC) 235:) 09:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC) 1: 208:08:11, 16 October 2012 (UTC) 167:gives that beach a star. 45:Knowledge talk:Did you know 37:this nomination's talk page 382: 41:the article's talk page 109:Created/expanded by 71:Carrapateira, Faro 315:Praia da Bordeira 172:Faro Municipality 134: 125:). Nominated by 373: 344: 301: 276: 206: 149: 108: 56:The result was: 34: 381: 380: 376: 375: 374: 372: 371: 370: 356: 355: 354: 222:Daily Telegraph 204: 199:The Independent 168: 91: 89: 85:Article history 73: 67: 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 379: 377: 369: 368: 358: 357: 339: 338: 337: 336: 335: 334: 333: 332: 290: 289: 288: 287: 267: 266: 265: 264: 263: 262: 261: 260: 241: 240: 239: 238: 237: 236: 225: 212: 211: 210: 209: 161: 157:Rule 2b hurdle 143: 142: 141: 140: 106: 105: 88: 87: 82: 80:Back to T:TDYK 76: 74: 72: 69: 54: 53: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 378: 367: 364: 363: 361: 352: 348: 343: 330: 326: 322: 321: 316: 312: 308: 305: 304: 300: 296: 295: 294: 293: 292: 291: 285: 281: 275: 271: 270: 269: 268: 258: 254: 249: 248: 247: 246: 245: 244: 243: 242: 234: 230: 226: 223: 218: 217: 216: 215: 214: 213: 207: 201: 200: 195: 194: 193: 192: 191: 189: 185: 181: 180:Faro District 177: 173: 166: 160: 158: 154: 148: 139: 138: 137: 136: 135: 132: 128: 124: 120: 116: 112: 103: 99: 98: 93: 92: 86: 83: 81: 78: 77: 70: 68: 65: 64: 59: 52: 50: 46: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 325:Gerda Arendt 320:Carrapateira 318: 314: 306: 221: 197: 169: 144: 107: 97:Carrapateira 95: 61: 57: 55: 48: 31: 28: 280:BlueMoonset 253:BlueMoonset 205:Dr. Blofeld 127:Dr. Blofeld 119:Dr. Blofeld 229:Walrasiad 184:Walrasiad 111:Rosiestep 360:Category 347:Aymatth2 165:Michelin 58:promoted 311:Algarve 176:Algarve 102:Algarve 63:Allen3 317:near 182:"). 153:Moors 16:< 351:talk 329:talk 323:? -- 307:ALT1 284:talk 257:talk 233:talk 188:talk 131:talk 123:talk 115:talk 117:), 60:by 43:or 362:: 75:( 39:, 349:( 327:( 282:( 255:( 231:( 186:( 129:( 121:( 113:( 104:? 90:) 51:.

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