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Knowledge. The article is formatted correctly. Clearly notable. Good to go.
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Connery got married here - twice. But the entire hook - which is under 200 characters - is sourced at the end of one sentence or another in the article. Cool hook. Too bad you can't run the
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Good find, I think I'll start a few of those today. Yeah, I'll just remove it I think. I was thinking of the John and Yoko hook, can you confirm Fram that they did stay at the hotel?♦
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