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498:, as it is the link does not go to the right webpage. Plus, the Pradeep Publications source (actually duplicated in the article) don't look at all reliable to me. I am an Indian student who has used these books in her high school years for exams, and I know they are not well-researched and suitable as sources for an encyclopedia. Third, there is some close paraphrasing in places which can be fixed with some rewording and rearrangement, see the comparison here 501:. Other concerns to be fixed before the article makes a main page appearance are italicizing the scientific names in the references (and in some places in the article body) plus some necessary text formatting (for example "Conservation efforts in place are" won't be a good way to write, rather this and the next two lines should be put together to form a continuous paragraph). Sorry but we need quite some work here before this can be promoted. 821: 734: 160: 889: 606: 460: 432: 424: 413: 384: 376: 347: 327: 316: 287: 276: 841: 642: 845:
other (for the larger plant claims) is a US website that is referred to in the article as "one US website", suggesting it might not be that notable in the plant world. There's also a question why the journal that mentioned it changes with cultivation wouldn't include this? I'd like to hear more about these sources to know it's all accurate information.
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ALT2 relies on three sources, one of which is a journal article. The other two don't seem quite as reliable for the topic: one (for the only-in-Cuba claim) is a Dominican website using its own editorial group - raising the questions why wouldn't an official Cuban body have this information? - and the
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Um, sorry, I was about to turn in and wouldn't be around for a while. I fixed the misquote (20 leaves, not 20cm leaves) and modified the statement about smallest cycad for accuracy. I've never proposed a "hook" before, maybe someone else could do it? ALT1... I haven't read the research, can't say
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The IUCN's website is currently under maintenance so I couldn't check the current status of the species, and it's always possible that (based on what's mentioned in the article) that things changed between the research done in the 1990s and its current classification. Is the issue with ALT1 the
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Would an attribute revision of ALT1 work? Perhaps instead of giving the ALT1 information as a sure fact, there could be some form of attribution? Something like "... that it has been estimated that there are less than 250 remaining specimens..."?
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The nominator hasn't edited since the day they nominated this, and the issues remain unaddressed. If the nominator is unable to return soon, this may need to be marked for closure, although it can proceed if another editor adopts this: perhaps
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Added cite as requested above. Problem with ALT0 is that it's not entirely true. The dimensions stated only pertain to a few stunted individual plants growing in pure white sand at a location on Isla de la Juventud (the former
612:, thank you for your efforts, the changes made should suffice if we are going ahead with ALT1. You are right about the QPQ, I assumed it was necessary as the nominator said they will be doing one. Good to go! 737:
You seem to be telling us that there are inaccuracies in the article. It sounds like it's not ready for the main page until someone looks it over and cleans it up. Meanwhile, I'm returning this to
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Marking for closure as unsuccessful. The IUCN websites seem to be down right now so I cannot check them directly for close paraphrasing, but when they return, we can remove the copyvio sections.
93: 499: 494:. The smallest "cycad", not the smallest "gymnosperm", of which cycads are just a kind. ALT1 hook is verified by the IUCN source, but the citation needs to properly formatted using 484:
I see quite a few issues here. First, the numerous citation needed tags. Second, I think the Britannica source should ideally be linked to the exact page from where the info comes
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much about it. I do note the new IUCN red list narrative clashes enormously with previous published info from Cuban researchers in the 1990s (rare, but not threatened). Cheers,
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OK, let us know when you're done. I struck ALT0. I think you should propose a better "hook" that will make readers want to click on the article to read more. Thanks,
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Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
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Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
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I have made most of the fixes mentioned above and ALT1 looks OK, so would you like to have a look at this nomination? I don't think a QPQ is needd.
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right. I could try to make these fixes myself but I am not great at writing plant articles. Let us see what the DYK coordinators suggest. Cheers,
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Hi, I came by to promote ALT0 without the picture. Please provide a cite for the common name in the lead. Thanks,
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I removed a chunk of copyvio. Not sure if I got it all, but I left the close paraphrasing tag on the page.
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Could you take another look at this nomination and see if Kingsif's concerns can be addressed?
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Personally I would mark it for closure. The conservation section is a copyvio of the
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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question on whether it is endangered or not, or the number of individuals?
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and the nominator has vanished. I'm not sure why Earwig has missed this.
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in the hopes that one of our editors will come up with a better hook.
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I have removed the rest and revision deleted the affected revisions.
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Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
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Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
148: 800:, which grows only in Cuba, changes drastically under 804:, producing more and larger leaves and larger stems? 393: 356: 296: 256: 108: 363:Hook has been verified by provided inline citation 245:). Self-nominated at 16:09, 1 May 2020 (UTC). 8: 49:No further edits should be made to this page 954:thanks. 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