Template talk:Cite Hansard

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multiple column references: unlike a book citation, where one can write "pp. 77, 82–85", Hansard citations are generally made for continuous column ranges, which normally refer to either a specific point or a longer part of a debate; this makes it harder to make selections from a debate without making more explicit reference to them in the article text or in a note. It is true that a continuous column range may, and often does, include more than a single speaker, but in this case would it be appropriate to transcribe in a footnote what would inevitably look like a dialogue? The existing Cite Hansard template has fields for only one speaker, and I believe this is an element we ought to retain, though we'd also redress the absence of a "quotation" parameter. (Indeed, I have doubts for the utility of even the one speaker, but I'd leave the editors sort that out.)

1347:"HL" is displayed, and instead of "prefix" and "suffix" parameters (for written answers etc.) there will be a single "extension" parameter, which will display a prefix or suffix depending on which House has been selected. There will also be a "bill_name" parameter for Public Bill Committees (which will supersede "house" and substitute "x Bill Deb") and a "bill_no" parameter for the parenthetical bill number (which will supersede "house" and "bill_name" and substitute "PBC Deb"). Finally, there will be a "sc_letter" parameter, which will provide the letter of the Standing Committee and substitute "SC Deb" at the beginning. All the committee-related parameters will disable the "series", "volume" and "extension" ones. At the end there will a quote parameter; if that is used, a speaker can also be added ahead. 135: 368: 254: 77: 53: 22: 1305:. The inclusion of speakers, on the other hand, is more complex. Including one speaker, with or without quotation, is plain enough. Perhaps two or three speakers with as many quotations would work? For longer conversations I think the column numbers would suffice, or footnotes could be used if something needed to be explained; I think cluttering the citation with five names or more would be of little use on its own, especially without quotations. 87: 306: 282: 1681:{{Cite Hansard/sandbox |jurisdiction=Western Australia |title=Old Coast Road, Improvements to Ease Traffic Congestion |url=http://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/Hansard%5Chansard.nsf/0/e89e79e5b53563a2c82575700080a05c/$ FILE/C35%20S4%2020001109%20p2692c-2692c.pdf |format=PDF |house=] |date=9 November 2000 |speaker=] |position=Minister for Transport |archiveurl=http://www.webcitation.org/6RUlhlnPb |archivedate=1 August 2014 |deadurl=no}} 3525: 901: 414: 396: 424: 316: 189: 165: 199: 480: 2336: 3371:{{Cite Hansard/sandbox |jurisdiction=] |url= https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200607/cmhansrd/cm070110/halltext/70110h0010.htm |house= ] |date=10 January 2007 |column_start=135WH |column_end=139WH |speaker=Denis Murphy |display-authors=etal |title=Ashington, Blyth and Tyne Railway|ref={{sfnref|Hansard|2007}}}} 3480:{{cite Hansard |jurisdiction=United Kingdom |title=European Union (Withdrawal) (No. 5) Bill Report Stage |url=https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2019-04-08/debates/032A5CB3-79E4-4699-9AFA-F998B6BCA33D/EuropeanUnion(Withdrawal)(No5)Bill |house=House of Lords |date=8 April 2019 |part=797 |speaker= |position=}} 1202:—and therefore I could use that and end up with something resembling the "official" style. That said, I don't see the harm in expanding "vol" and "col", or in changing punctuation slightly (for consistency with our existing citation system and to show that volumes are not connected to dates). For example: 790:, etc.), where full-stops are generally used rather than commas, and the combined usage of those templates and this one creates a certain lack of stylistic harmony. Might it be possible to introduce a "separator" parameter here which would allow one to specify full-stops rather than commas as separators? 1334:

The other point you raise is an interesting one, and I hadn't considered it before: what else is cited in Hansard other than debates? It is my understanding that questions and divisions, though they are numbered, are included in the regular columns scheme and are not cited in a manner different from

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I am increasingly convinced that the citation ought to be brief and resemble the recommended citation style for Hansard, but I find that these aims are not very compatible with the inclusion of speakers, especially multiple ones. I am also realising that we have not hitherto considered the matter of

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To begin with the basics, we need the name of the House, the date, the volume number, the series number (if necessary), and the column number(s), with the appropriate sequence suffix (if applicable). There is no need to mention the jurisdiction (the context should be obvious), and I also see no need

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I haven't included speakers because I'm not entirely sure how they would fit in. Volume number would be desirable in all cases, though not demanded (in contrast to the House name, date and column numbers); series number would normally be needed only for series other than the present one and only in

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templates are missing titles. If you want a clickable-link in your Hansard cites, you should give the template a title. That is something that must be done at each individual instance of the template and not something that can be done here. For your example at the top of this topic, you can see

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to display it to you. (It took me quite a lot of study to find out how, but I am getting better at writing templates—just as Lua is starting to become widespread in Knowledge!.) The basic mechanics of the template are as follows: there will be a "house" parameter, which will define whether "HC" or

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I think it needs to allow for speakers' names - such as speaker1 through speaker10. I would be happy if it just cited Hansard as the name of the work so to speak, followed by the "official" Hansard citation, such as "HC Deb 05 December 1963 vol 685 cc1340-1 ". No need to invent a new way of doing

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does not appear to have caught on, and it may be better this way; it seems to rely on abbreviations too much for the purposes of a general encyclopaedia, and it also lacks essential features (like links). If there are any people watching this page, perhaps they might comment on the possibility of

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If the intent is to exactly replicate these Hansard styles, then the CS1 template should not be used. If the intent is to incorporate all the elements into the CS1 system so it matches the other citation in the article, then we can include all the elements, but they will be in a different order.

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There are "prefix" and "suffix" parameters, so that these can be entered separately of the column numbers. (Prefixes/suffixes are not repeated: the correct citation is "cc. 50–51W", not "cc. 50W–51W". This means that, as long as we use two separate parameters for column ranges, the prefix/suffix

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nerd :). But I need more info. Could you give at least an initial sketch of what the straight case should look like? I propose to give a call example {{cite hansard | house=... | url=... | date=.... | column=... }} and give the corresponding expected output in POW (plain old wikitext). Are there

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I am not entirely sure about whether the name "Parliamentary Debates" applies with equal validity to all series of Hansard. Even if it does, however, I feel that it would be both more succinct and closer to the spirit of the official style to simply expand "HC/HL Deb" to "House of Commons/Lords

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These are some good points, though I'm not sure I understand why we need so many parameters for speakers. I'd expect that naming the speaker(s) would be useful in a brief exchange that takes up only part of a column, and that a longer debate would be best described simply by giving the column

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How closely do we need to follow the official method of citing Hansard? This is a general encyclopaedia, not a legal text, and the official citation style's many abbreviations may confuse readers. Indeed, most of them will probably find "HC Deb" too obscure to even infer that it refers to

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seems to consider it necessary, and it makes sense because the columns are numbered per volume, not daily (thus making the date more of an explanatory parenthesis). I believe that adjusting this template to include volume (and perhaps series) information would be a step in the right

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How much consistency do we need between the UK Parliament's Hansard and those of other legislatures? It is clear there are some differences in usage; I do not know whether other countries use volume numbers or have numbered series, but such information is conspicuously absent from

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numbers. In any case, my idea above is a compromise between the "official" citation style for Hansard and the current Knowledge style (i.e. the present template), which is obviously quite different. I see that "Hansard" followed by "HC Deb" or "HL Deb" is suggested by some guides—

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Debates" (or is it "Debate"?). Regarding the other abbreviations, I'd be equally happy with "vol(s)." and "volume(s)", as well as with "col(s)." and "column(s)", although "c(c)." is probably too confusing to retain. That said, it would ensure better compatibility with

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Yep, it does work differently. The editors who elected to change this template surely recognized that. I will neither defend nor support their choices. I came to this page because of the post at Help talk:Citation Style 1 mentioned at the start of

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The intent is to have a CS1 style template - I thought CS1 was meant to be based on Chicago / APA? Anyway, they show the elements normally used outside of Knowledge. The Cite book version looks alright – URL's currently provided can be mapped to a

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I have added a test for URL without a title to the template. If you note a parameter as required (or conditional) in the documentation, it is useful to track usages that violate the requirement. The test populates the existing tracking category,

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to use the fully expanded "volume(s)" and "column(s)". Finally, a little additional punctuation would answer question #2 and make the whole thing a bit more readable. My idea for a full citation (and here is where all the above come together) is

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I'm just an amateur author, trying to cite Hansard. I was directed to this template, but I feel I've fallen into a parallel universe of curly brackets and equal signs. How do I actually use the template - do I have to type all those symbols?

2991:. Those edits, rather than the bot edit that removed an interwiki link, are likely the source of your complaint. You may wish to ping those editors since they may no longer be watching this page (Editor Gadget850 has retired from Knowledge). 528:. Would take house, url, date, column - possibly generalise to legislatures whose reports aren't called Hansard. Hansard doesn't fit any of the existing templates well because it doesn't have page numbers, but column numbers. 1517:

would also be needed.) I don't think this is possible with any of the existing CS1 templates, at least not without misusing the parameters. What do other editors think? Are there any other elements that would be needed? -

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cannot simply be added to these fields, but will need a parameter of its own.) Prefixes are used for the House of Lords and suffixes for the Commons; in case both parameters are filled, the former supersedes the latter.

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To what extent do we want our Hansard citations to resemble the style of the other citations in Knowledge? We have some established formats for citing books, journals, news articles etc., exemplified by templates like

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Sorry for the delay. I hadn't given much thought to brevity as an advantage, but I think you may be right about that; "vol" and "col" are easy to understand, in any case, and if pressed we might use

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the url parameter would be optional and make the bit in italics a link? Also it might be good to support column ranges, i suppose optional column_start and column_end parameters instead?

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parameter. That mechanism is flawed because a speaker's position isn't part of the speaker's name but, because the two are lumped together this way the template's metadata gets it all:

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parameter value. The concatenation is kept and the result is corrupt metadata without commas. To have the template render commas as grammar would dictate, the second change adds

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to identify the speaker and their position, but I do see a use for a "quote" parameter in the end. (For the sake of completeness, I'll also mention the need for a url parameter.)

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nominating the aforementioned template for deletion? (Also, there is a space after the date in this template, and it ought to be removed; I don't want to break anything, so...)

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I was, with my edit, just trying to get comma(s) displayed without tripping the recently introduced "CS1 maint: Multiple names" messages/categorisation – presumably the reason

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If you use the Visual Editor, you should be able to click the button to insert a template, tell it to insert this template, and you should get a set of boxes to fill in. –

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Nothing has changed in the last two years, so I am making another attempt to draw attention to this subject. The above continues to express my views on the matter.

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I know how the template works now. My point is that it used to work differently; somebody changed it and broke many existing uses of it. That edit (probably

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it. I don't think we ought to cater for readers who don't understand the citation, and in any case an online link will take them where they want to go, e.g.

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that used for debates proper. On the other hand, there is the matter of Standing Committees and their replacements, Public Bill Committees, according to a

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article. The article has a bibliography and reference list. It uses {{refbegin|2}} and {{reflist|3}} and the author linkage doesn't appear to work. --

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so is reliant on features and functionality not available in the live, stable module. It is possible that changes I make to the module will break

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I completely agree with Mr Blacketer's statement, and I have been thinking about this matter myself lately. I had already made some observations

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and relax your vigilance. Or, revert to the previous version with its one known minor flaw and wait for the module update before updating

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I made the mapping changes you suggested, and removed those identifier parameters that are quite unlikely to be used, but now setting

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It has two ways to enter date, namely a "date" parameter and "day", "month" and "year" parameters (the former supersedes the latter).

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etc which allow up to 9 authors or whatever. My main points are that the standard Hansard citation is very brief (commendably so):

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This template really should not be used for the Hansard for the UK Parliament until it is complete. The complete information is:

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where At would be either the page(s) or column(s) reference, preceded by part (if applicable). (The usual optional extras like

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Other citation templates seem to include a full stop at the end of the reference. Can this be added to the Hansard template?

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Turns out that it only worked when you used the speaker and/or position parameters. I've moved the period out of all of the

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Column, including suffix for Written Statements and Westminster Hall Debates, and allowing for italics for Written Answers.

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page. If you notice anything strange after this change, post here with an example citation, and I will take a look. –

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from the University of Canberra), plus the last version of the template before it was migrated over to cite journal

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Now that I remember it, there is also the issue of punctuation. I prefer the "Cite X" system of citation templates (

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this template is used and is showing the error "chapter-url= missing title (help)." ( with the help taking you to

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Would it be possible to make this template compatible with harv usage? I'd like to use the NSW Hansard in the

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and the "Cite x" family; to what extent should our Hansard citations conform with these stylistic conventions?

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By the way, I'm not sure we need italics for written answers. I haven't seen it done or required anywhere.

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which relies on that parameter's author-name replacement functionality. In this case, the values from

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If the intent is to exactly replicate these Hansard styles, then the CS1 template should not be used.

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The original example included a URL, but I have no idea what title it was supposed to be attached to.

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Because someone wrote this template which improperly includes an explicit 'and others' (et al) in

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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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The missing title error above is because the citation is missing its title. A legitimate error.

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got right: it allows for the inclusion of volume number. Guidance for citing Hansard such as

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Well, this used to work. The change has broken things and gives an unhelpful error message.

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The current formatting is also quite different from citation guides for various styles (eg

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There is a "column" parameter and, for ranges, "column_start" and "column_end" parameters.

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Done so far. What should the column_start and column_end produce? Just "column 23-34"? --

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Anyway, thoughts? This is my first complex template, so any help would be appreciated.

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I didn't expect to be able to do it, but I've actually managed to create this template

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One solution for a fix to this would have been to add this line to the template code:

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I have come up with a workable parameters scheme for the template, and I have updated

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I've adjusted author and author-mask per above, and added tracking for first1 (in

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http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1887/jul/15/civil-services#column_977

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It seems to have disappeared again, at least in the case of the UK examples.

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http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1997/nov/26/over-30-months-scheme

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Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 6#Period_appears_at_start_of_Cite_Hansard

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Hansard, or alternatively Official Report after 1909 (to identify source)

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I've fixed the link to the suspect edit (it's the one after the bot).

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for weirdness that lasts longer than an hour or so and keep an eye on

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did not fix the problem, I came here to see about a better solution.

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http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1887/jul/15/civil-services

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Yep, does nothing, but it is out there in the wild so I used it here.

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Properly, only the speaker's name should be in the author metadata:

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other forms are recorded besides debates: questions, divisions, etc

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parameter, which could probably be provided for most instances, eg

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parameters. Rewriting the above template to use the sandbox and

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Two recent changes to this template have focused on commas. The

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When a speaker is specified, the citation is preceded by a period

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Could someone please tweak this template so the colon after the

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Follow that, and there is your title so rewriting your example:

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Help_talk:Citation_Style_1#Chapter and its associated parameters

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17 March 1981. Volume 418, columns 653–655. "Random quote here."

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Oops, thanks for pointing that out. Thanks to both of you then!

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should be restored, and consideration given to make sure that

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Looks like you got this. Let me know if you need more help. --

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Perhaps the correct code for these two parameters should be:

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Done. If we are finished we can remove the testing remark. --

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There having been no opinions expressed, I have implemented

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Or is this intentional so that it can be used mid-sentence?

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Why "chapter-url= missing title"? There is no chapter-url.

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If it's ok, I'm going to have a go at creating a template,

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This template is a Citation Style 1 meta-template based on

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Without all this information the template is incomplete.

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I could help tinkering that template (in case you need a

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That was done by MitchellDuce; I only finished it off.

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and for completeness, without the archive parameters:

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NA-importance Politics of the United Kingdom articles

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Do you really need all of the identifier parameters?

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Unfortunately, not all Hansard urls are so obliging.

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