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of the portals purged. But we can't get such feedback if you panic and revert in a knee-jerk reaction. You seem to "be bold" whenever it suits you, and to use the "discuss it first argument" when someone else's being bold doesn't suit you. I'm going to change it again, and if there is more than a few complaints (out of the hundreds of users assumed to be looking at the portals), I'll change it back in five days. In the meantime, I'll accomodate any portal maintainers who want their square edges back. Just give me five days, and remember the 3-revert rule.

754:. I’m also concerned that you haven’t acknowledged the feedback already received (which is fortuitous, given it hadn’t been sought). It’s doubtful that many editors will even know where to comment, so I’m not sure how you intend to gather further feedback. Your argument about the changes not being visible is not accurate, either. If you wish to trial this format, why not use the alternate template you've created on a few portals rather than charging ahead against opposition? And I'm perfectly aware of the 3RR given I've enforced it on several occasions. -- 31: 1232:

box-footers, the font size of the skin appears smaller and the tabs at the top don't display nicely. The author of the "tidy solution" admits that he doesn't fully understand what effect changing these settings has. Could someone provide more info on this solution and if there is a less drastic approach? I'm afraid that changing these settings may lead to more broken syntax causing display problems in the future. Thanks --

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the templates nor sourcepages are causing it. However the top margin looks the same for text in boxes with images as for the text in boxes with no images. It must be the way the program places pictures. I can't find it in any page source. There is one problem I noticed we're no longer having -- the text no longer overlaps into the image, which used to happen at the top of an image a lot.

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Plus, I might learn something while looking around. But since we're on the subject of feedback, I have a feedback question for you: are there any tools for counting the number of hits on Knowledge pages? Are visits to articles recorded anywhere? This would at least be interesting, if not useful data.

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and its selected picture, you can see the odd effects in either Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer 6 when you reduce the browser width to a certain point. In Firefox, the image overflows the box on the right, and in IE, the contents on the lefthand side of the portal jump around to the bottom. I

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I see these problems in Firefox 1.0.8 and 1.5.2 running on Kubuntu and XP respectively, also in Konqueror 3.5.2. In Opera (latest version I think) I don't see the borders of any of the portal panes, and the titles are in white, except Portal:Australia looks normal. In IE 6 on XP SP1, all portals look

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I noticed sometime around the March 18-20 edits that many of the portals lost the right side of the boxes in the right column... almost as if the total width was 101% within another table, but decreasing the main margin width doesn't fix the issue. This happens in N7 but not IE6. Can someone familiar

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CJ, I don't agree with your use of the term "resounding" to describe the feedback, as 4 votes is hardly a peep considering that hundreds or thousands of users view these pages. I plan to continue expermenting with layouts (as I can find the time), and to test both round-based and square-based format

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Yes, I think I know what you are talking about now. It looks like the text starts half a line from the top of the image rather than at the very top. However, Mathematics has the same thing, and it's constructed using a different template. Philosophy uses still another markup method. I don't think

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Almost all the portals currently have no margin at all on the left side of the text. I think they have no margin on the right side either, but I don't have full justification turned on so it's hard to tell. It happened a day or two ago. Is this a result of the changes to this page? What should we do

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I think I fixed the glitch. I suspect it was being caused by a difference between the way the program places images and how it places text. I've restored the edit button into the header, and have added a slight margin below it to fill the space the text seems to be sneaking into. I've checked all

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It seems not to break anything :) Now what about the excessive use of padding and margins. I really hate all those small adjustments. It makes it difficult to change anything. Specifically I noticed that the vertical spacing is different from the horizontal spacing between boxes. I would like to fix

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more parameters than in the documentation page like {{{border-width|1}}}, {{{titlefont-size|100%}}}, {{{padding|1em}}}, {{{border-top|{{{border-width|1}}}}}}px, etc. I think that this must be included there, because, for example, someone could want to have a title with a bigger size of letter or a

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uses this template for its page, and it is very distracting and hard to read, especially with its red and black colors. The template was added by the project's creator, but I'd like to get rid of it completely and just use a simple list format like all other WikiProjects. A discussion was started

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I have changed the float of the edit link to an absolute positioned span with coordinated relative to the parent box. As I have heard users using the IE-browser might have problems displaying this sort of element (I don't know exactly). so I have tested now with setting an offset of 1px of the span

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It wouldn't hurt to test the round corners for a few days by changing the template, since it takes a page refresh (purge) in order to see the changes on each portal. Because of this, only a fraction of the portals see the change. We can then see what the typical user reaction is on the talk-pages

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is now fixed. This is not a new placement; it is the location used up until a week ago. Where you see this fault, ensure "|right" markup is replaced with "div" markup for stability. It is for this reason templates used on the Main Page use "div". Having the edit link in the header was logical, yes.

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specifies for highway signs, white text on a darker green background. However, these highway signs also use a sans serif typeface. With the coming Typography Refresh, these headers are appearing in the same serif typeface as the headers in regular articles, which just looks "wrong" with that color

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I've never been called "flippant" before! "Defensive", occasionally. But don't worry, if there's feedback, I'll find it. Most portal editors are probably smarter than me, and therefore will be able to figure out where to post, or at least will post somewhere (like on their portal's talk page).

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I like that the edit link is now located on the header bar. However, the recent formating changes have had an odd consequence: wherever an image is present in a box, no matter its formating, the text is forced lower. I'm not sure why this is, and I have closely checked it. I'm tempted to revert it

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I only noticed image-related faults where thumbs were used. I have been discouraging their use, and left hidden comments on several portals warning against them. As for this present fault, it is to wide-spread to let be, so I intend on restoring the previous formatting. Additionally, I've noticed

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The spacings are due to the differences between % and em - the two divs which cause both sides to float are set to some arbitrary percentages adding up to between 95 and 99%, which means there's a 5-1% gap between the boxes. This means that the actual difference changes based on browser size. The

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One problem I have found with portals - when I use the watch function on a portal page, it doesn't report changes in the component boxes, you have to go to all the separate pages and put a watch on each - could be better, but maybe I'm missing something important. Anyway, I got a watch function

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tags around the {{{title}}} parameter. These create a 'level 2 header', such as is automatically created by '==' in wikimarkup. The reason for including such is that these headers are used by screen-reader software for the blind to navigate around to different sections. Without them blind users

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I couldn't even see any image formatting glitch. But I did notice that some text was getting forced lower, especially in category and list boxes. It seems to have been caused by the extraneous comment left at the bottom of the page. I've fixed that. Let me know if you still get the glitch.

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After applying the changes to tidy, when viewing my Portal:box-header and Portal:box-footer and any of my Portal:Name/box-header and Portal:Name/box-footer pages the format of the entire wiki page breaks. On the box-headers, the navigation bar on the left appears half way down the page. On the

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That was awfully flippant and I take exception to your accusation. I'm not the only one to have objected, nor were my reversions panic-driven “knee-jerk” reactions. I’m not opposed to portals using rounded-edges, but I object to it being imposed on all without the slightest attempt to inform

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prescribes to the div of its single parameter "margin:0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em; padding:0.3em 0.2em 0.2em". Especially the bottom ones seem too much, it leaves a lot of empty space at the bottom of portal boxen. What about removing them? Standard box padding seems quite enough to me.

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which caused the problem. It appears he made width optional to remove a glitch this template produces on non-portal pages. I have reverted this edit on the basis that it caused widespread faults in portals, and that this template (as evidenced by its location) is intended for

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I worked around the problem by simply combining the header and footer into one template that transcludes the content of the box. This also makes the syntax of using the box templates easier. Instead of having to transclude the header, content and footer, the syntax looks like

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Concerning the edit button, I've put it back up into the header so that we can track down the text bleed glitch. I added some padding, which I think might have solved the problem. If you spot the glitch again, let me know exactly where it is, so I can look at it with IE.

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This needs to be better documented, and even after all of the above it's a usability problem, even if accessibility issues have been fixed. People use this on wikiproject pages, not just portals, and it is clobbering the ability to edit any section on the project pages. —

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vertical spacing is defined by the box margins, and it's in em. Basically, it's not the box's fault :) (or so I believe). You could try setting the divs to equal 100%, or 99.9%, and add a padding-left:???em; to the div which is floated right, to make it more consistent.

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to try to clear the border, and also I have tried to remove any background and border that might be problem for the kind of browser. If anyone have a better idea, please stand up. The problem with float is that it might set an offset of the title up to 4em to the left.

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Hi! Can an admin/template editor please add the ability to define the div's height? It'd be useful for filling up the entire height of a table row when placing them side-by-side. I've simply added a height parameter (along with removing some extra spaces); see

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That does seem to work, and without consequence too. About the vandalism: this is just a personal observation; it might well have to do with the new prominence of portals. Whatever the reason, I've had to revert vandalism on sub-pages of several portals daily.

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by adding tables around each section and setting "style=passing:5em" in each, but this is both a lot of work and a complication to wiki editing that shouldn't be necessary in very many places. I've fiddled with passing width and bwidth parameters to here at

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Please could I have a pointer as to how this works and what I need to do to copy it? I am running Mediawiki 1.5.0. I have set up a Portal namespace with subpages enabled. I have copied Portal:Box-header and Portal:Box-footer. What else do I need to copy?

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I have added an ability to hide the "edit" link using {{{noedit}}}. This feature will not be immediately available on all portals - you need to add it to your portal-specific box header template ... but I think it's important to have for things like the

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P:AU is not affected because I specifically substed the original box-header code to avoid the consequences of experimentation here. This is why the edit links are still located in the boxes on P:AU instead of in the headers. So far as I can tell, it was

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automatic edit links on existing portals? Could we just remove the manually inserted edit link in this template and use the automatic one instead (which would have the benefit of not showing them for users who have requested that option)? Et cetera.

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link, where users are taken directly to the page, instead of directly to editing it? If not, has anyone considered creating it? Some Portals sub-pages may be a transclusion of various pages, making a direct edit link inappropriate. See for example

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It won't occur any more, as I've removed the edit link. When in place, it occurs on any portal using this page in the circumstances I've described before (that is, where an image is placed alongside text, most notably in "selected article" boxes).

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I see no such glitch and the formatting is the same (I did both). I'm not sure what's causing it, but I dislike it. Perhaps it might be caused by the "text justify" user preference I use, but that doesn't explain why it didn't occur before nor why

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I believe that this template should display (or contain an option to display) a "view" and "talk" link in the top-right corner, in addition to the "edit" link. The best way to do this, IMHO, is to have links analogous to those appearing on

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CJ, you reverted two changes at once: the rounded corners and the editlink in the title bar. This in not cool. Can we discuss these as separate issues? I dislike the rounded corners, but I much prefer the editlinks in the title bar. --

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No, I was referring to the text overlap problem, where the top line of text tries to sneak above an image at the top of a section. I thought I had it licked. I'm changing the edit button back, so that we can track that glitch down.

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The problem is that Knowledge also uses these headers to determine where to place automatic 'edit' links for users who have that option selected in their preferences. I assumed that most portals use __NOEDITSECTION__, the way I do at

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The original glitch is still present, and is still the same as I described above. Please don't return the edit link to the header unless remedy has been found. Text bleed can be fixed by using div markup around images, as on the Main

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combination. I'll note that as it is now, "sans-serif" is set as the default, but I have the Typography refresh enabled now, and portal headers appear in the same serif typeface as article headings, so obviously this template is

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I've just installed Firefox, so I ended up not needing the screenshot (thanks anyway!). Using divs doesn't defeat the purpose of the software if it prevents the fault; in fact, their use is advisable given they ensure against

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No, there is not. If you don't wish to use it at your project, then you'll have to outline why it shouldn't be used on its merits. In any event, I agree about the harshness of the colours – I've modified them (as can you) at

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I agree with your statement concerning the default template forcing portals as a group to be round or square, and as per your suggestion have implemented a template for portal creators who want to try out round corners. See

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Are all those HTML comments in the template really needed? Knowledge seems to remove them, and that's good, but they are in the style attribute, and that's totally not conformant, and they make the code really illegible.

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This template seems to cause problems with images for Internet Explorer (though not Opera or Firefox). Many images, especially if they have some sort of formatting applied to them, appear out of place or not at all.

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with articles that start with text. Can anyone confirm this, or was it something else that did it? While consistent in IE, there also seems to be a difference in spacing between the top and bottom that looks odd.

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I liked the overall look, but feel that curved edges simply don't fit with the rest of Knowledge's layout. I also agree that dramatic formatting changes such as this ought to be discussed prior to implementation.

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Hi Nick. Go for it! is referring to a separate glitch which forces the text lower when alongside an image, no matter its formatting. It doesn't appear in Firefox, but does in IE - which is used by the majority of

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No. There is no way to give a div a relative height. I have been struggling with it myself for some time now. The only solution is to use the new CSS3 flexbox model. You can see it in action on my experimental

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Not to mention that this creates an empty, heavily padded div even when there's no parameter to display. I've bypassed this on a few portals' local footer templates, but a centralised solution would be better.

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Aye, I originally thought each div would fill up the height when set at 100%, but it apparently only does so when its parent div/table is set to a fixed height...no clever but simple CSS workarounds I assume?

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I think the font override needs to be applied to the h2 element, instead of the div. The site/beta feature CSS applying the serif fonts to h2 headings has a higher priority than the inline styling of the div.

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I have already addressed this issue by adjusting things on the portals I maintain, but I think it would be a good feature to incorporate on all of them if there is some way to work out this 'edit link' issue.

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I can't remember if I tested it the other way, I was concerned that it may spit out the ed template code if no variable was passed. You could try it the other way and use &action=purge to see the changes.

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I do not think it is possible to add it to the left. Check out the portal now, I added the picture. Maybe you should create a mirrored copy of the picture, and it could be put on both sides of the title.

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onto the end of the edit link. If no parameter is input, the extra code will not affect the template negatively. If I knew the If# code, I believe you could only include that if the parameter had a value.

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Heh, you're brave. I understand the concern, but hopefully this or some other option will address it. If it does, I think this will really make a big difference in portal usability for these users. Thanks.

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Hi, sorry to butt in, but that last revert you made seems to have screwed up the top of some images. Many of them now seem to overlap an image over half a line of text. It's particularly noticeable on the

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Can we have the option to use a different font on the title (only)? That would mean we can make this template fit better in individual cases with the correct formatting as per organisation websites. --

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You won't be able to perform such a function with this template. I don't see why it would be at all necessary in any case. The "show/hide" function has been used in some portals (such as

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Sorry I didn't notice those issues (it figures the three portals I looked at would have 'NOTOC', 'NOEDITSECTION', and black fonts) and thanks for all your efforts in cleaning them up. --

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The reason for this extra variable would be for the pages that do not need sub-pages for each section. I think it is sometimes a waste to give every section its own seperate page.

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themes, and will come up with a better approach to testing the next time around. Thanks for the feedback, on both the layout and the testing method, it has been helpful. --

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The edit link is discussed in the section above this. This was returned despite being previously reverted due to a formatting fault in IE, hence my complete reversion now.--

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I really don't think we should impose this rather new (to en: at least) format on each and every portal using this template. At the very least, a proposal should be made to

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section? Removing that seems to solve the image problem, based on my userspace troubleshooting. Since there are no further parameters telling it to go anywhere relative

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is my vote too. I was undecided at first, but I think I like the square corners better. Its a more consistent look with rest of Knowledge. There is also a weird effect on

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In light of problems I had on my talk pages, and concerns above, I've added "if" statements to the template to fix problems other users may run into. See the list below:

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now, but I'm hoping Go For It!'s about to check it out. Aside from that, the new edit link is sometimes hard to see, depending on the box header's background colour (cf.

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for an example. When I replace the tag with a span, it fixes the problem. I see above why the h2 tag was placed in there. But is there any way to fix the problem?

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This is also right for me. The ending "DIV" element is beyond the box! Please help with this issue - how to use this Portal templates on the local mediawiki setup?

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Could you give a specific page on which you saw the glitch? I realize it won't occur with the edit link where it is now. Also which version of IE are you using? --

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Nor can I (I use IE). Perhaps you can create some screenshots? As I said above, the only image-related faults I've noticed have occurred when thumbnails are used.--

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Please, change the font from Arial to the generic code sans-serif, as there is no need to specify a specific font in this template which affects portals, such as

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Fixed (I think, at least in WinXP IE) the glitch with the edit button. Most portal page uses I previously fixed by adding a "width" attribute to the <div: -->

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I recently made a change which AzaToth then reverted. I'd like to discuss options for how it might be possible to incorporate this as I think it is important.

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the text is lower against the image, instead of being flush at the top as previously. That same fault appears on this page with example box above. However, on

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Bad idea. Using a fixed height is problematic, as you never know what the width will be. If there is too much text, you risk the bottom part being obscured.

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the Top 10 portals, and weather, and it seems to work. Let me know if the glitch shows up on your screen/browser, and if it does I'll take a closer look.

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That would probably be a good thing. Error messages are good. Otherwise people might never know that an argument should be passed. I'll eliminate them. --

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The h2 tags cause a glitch on IE if you have multiple boxes. When that tag is in there, the text in the boxes gradually bleeds over to the left. See

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It's hard to know, cj has put padded divs round all the images I mentioned, and I'm not of a mind to either revert his changes or go looking for more.

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screwed up the coloring format for all box headers fonts, so I reverted it. If this can be fixed without screwing up the colors again, feel free.

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I know nothing about code (let me say right away!); is there a way to add a small image within the colored portion of the box title bar? Thanks.

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Looks rather crude, in my opinion, particularly given that the curves aren't very smooth. Also, on portals where there's an outer (angled) box—

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Actually, I've had to revert all recent changes, as each individually affected portals - at least insofar as they appear in Mozilla browsers.—

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The template is somehow still creating dozens of interwiki links for this template into innumerable portals. Please fix as soon as possible.

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If we add __NOEDITSECTION__ to this template would that suppress them for just this or all pages the template appears on? Do people actually

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was because I had subst'd its box-header a while ago (for a reason I forget). Do you not notice it? I can upload screenshots if necessary.--

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Is it necessary to include the "Template:" prefix in the three examples provided on the /doc page? There's no difference at all between

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just wanted to report the issue, as I don't know the best solution offhand, although perhaps using "overflow: auto" would do the trick.

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I think this edit might have thrown things out of whack in Netscape... compare the uneven spacing for the Selected picture and lists at

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it appears to break and the article will not insert. Here is what I am working on if any one has any ideas on why this is happening:

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Viewing this page in IE6 bring several severe errors to light. First, the link is breaking out of the box. I see there was a "fix" (

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essentially have to listen to the entire portal page rather than just the particular section they are interested in at the moment.

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that the edit link being more prominent has resulted in a rise in vandalism; so much so that I've semi-protected some sub-pages. --

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I had to revert, until we work out how to use h2 headings without overriding title (text) colors and making the text black. With

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And instead of requiring Portal:Name/box-header and Portal:Name/box-footer, I simply have Portal:Name/box which looks like this:

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I've reverted the change again. Go for it!, feedback has been forthcoming and it has been resoundingly negative (including at

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Looks like the image problem is solved. I'm not familiar enough with IE (except trial and error too), but notice a bug in

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I like your solution and have tried it. Strangely It appears that if the article has attributes in tags ex: <div: -->

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I not sure I understand your last comment cj. The new placement of the editlink is causing a formatting glitch on

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I don't know why this isn't used here. Maybe there's a disadvantage to doing it this way that I don't see? --

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I have been trying without success to copy the portal technology to my wiki all evening without any success.

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in the "Topics in Mathematics" box. It looks like someone is try to shove a square peg into a round hole. --

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This changes the "h2" tag to a "span" tag so that the box is not included as a section as on a talk page.

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However, it was imperfect: aside a glitch, it off-set the heading and (ostensibly) increased vandalism.--

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I can't recall. My knowledge of CSS is based entirely on trial and error, so I'm up for removing it.--

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Could you point out a page on which the glitch occurs? I was trying to replicate it and couldn't. --

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I would like to propose an optional section parameter to this template. This would require to add

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The latest (IE 6 SP2). As I said, it will occur on any page transcluding the box-header. I noted

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You're welcome to try. Neither I nor Gor for it! have been able to. It may simply be an IE bug.--

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Remove the padding for the box in which the h2 tags are placed. It will solve the glitch in IE.

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preceding the section box. For other uses, I added optional "width" and "bwidth" parameters. —

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on the left side of the bar, but am not sure where in the code to put the image link. Thanks.

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substitutes this template for manual formatting, and images display properly on that portal.--

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Is it used so the edit template doesn't produce a redlink? Anything else? Is that useful? --

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I've modified the /doc page to remove the explicit reference to the 'Template:' prefix. --

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I've made the edit link the same colour as your portals' title bar text. Happy editing, --

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section, which is a transclusion of varios sub-subpages with randomly rotating DYKs. -

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normal position, does this line do anything (my understanding of CSS is nearly zero)?--

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Someone know if it's possible to use this template without the edit link?. And I see

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I think there may be a way of getting it up there without offsetting the heading; see

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doesn't seem affected, and it is one of the few portals not to call this page from

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Actually scratch that. It occurs on every portal. The reason it didn't happen on

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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How do I get this to hide and have the "show" near the edit button to unhide?

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Why are the links all hidden when this template is used on a page? Compare

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You have to use an undocumented feature, add |EDIT=yes, to the options list.

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http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1755&highlight=template

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We could try to add it, and see if people complain. I'll do it and see.

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That looks great. I'll add a reversed image to the other side. Thanks!

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Any suggestions on what to do to get each portal displaying correctly?-

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I don't understand what you are saying :/ Could you show a screenshot?

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Is there any way for us to edit the color of the portal ourselves? --

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maintainers. A better approach would have been to make a proposal on

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template. Also, please don't use pastebin for proposed changes: use

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tag is causing problems with mobile view. Change the <H2: -->

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Ok, I have fixed that, it was only a extra newline in the way.

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I've removed it. Now let's see if it causes any problems.--

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Is it possible to change the color of the "edit" link? At

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Yes, (unless I do not understand you). Adding the code:

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Then we should work on finding a fix for that glitch. --

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I'm not sure what you mean. You can do this already at

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Portal I made the other day, but I can also see it on

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This takes away the link in the corner for editing.

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