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Excellence. As for the fullurl links, though: I'd question whether these are all useful. In particular, the copyvios link goes to a page which specifically warns against directly editing it. Would it be worth changing these into regular wikilinks, with a slight accuracy hit?
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In an effort to keep this short and relevant on articles it's included on, is there any way this could be modified to accept an optional section parameter which only shows the relevant section? for instance, {{deletiontools|transwiki}} would only show the TransWiki section.
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Because your unique conbination of aesthetics and screen resolution isn't normative? Regardless, I could live without the class changes were the params to go back in. The rest was just icing to reduce the number of navboxes on WP which look like they came from 1996.
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