977:. While (Trans-)Jordan became independant on 1946, it kept using the Palestine pound exclusively until 1949. In 1949 the first Jordanian coins were minted, but the final transition to an independant currency took place only on September 30, 1950. On that date the West Bank was already annexed to Jordan. Apparently, Jordan also relied on a London-based company, "The Jordanian Currency Board" to administer its currency system, until 1964, when the Cetral Bank of Jordan was established in Jordan itself. The question whether the Anglo Palestine Company Currency notes should be considered Israeli currency is hard to answer. The company was established in London as the Zionist financial institute on 1902, and moved to Tel Aviv only on 1951. Its banknotes didn't bear the name of the State of Israel (as I said, Israel and Eretz Yisrael are not exactly the same), but they were used exclusively in Israel. The APC continued the policy of the Palestine Currency Board without any changes, however this policy continued until December 1st 1954, 2 years after the Palestine pound was officially replaced by the Israeli lira. Summing it all up - I can't give you a definite answer. There was clearly a long transitional period, but I don't know where to draw the line between the Palestine pound and the Israeli lira.
1009:"filistina" in Arabic, "Paleshtina (E. I.)" in Hebrew, and Palestine in English (I don't have the book right in front of me now, so I may have misspelled the transliterations a little). So, it seems clear to me that this currency should be called Palestinian, but this doesn't mean it wasn't used in the area we now call Israel, or even that it wasn't also known as "Land of Israel" at the time. Since there was definitely a time when the names Palestine and (Land of) Israel were both used for the same region (pre-1948), and with the complex situation dealing with occupied territories, I can't see a benefit in trying to make separate templates. This seems like a case where succession boxes (like on
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between 1948 - 1951 and that was followed by Bank Leumi Le Israel up until 1955 when it was replaced by the Lira.. The Lira was used up until 1980 when the Shekel was introduced and in 1985 as a result if high inflation they changed to the New Shekel which allowed them to knock a few zeros off the end.
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Company was indeed Zionist, but until 1952 it was based in London (although it had branches in Palestine/Israel). The banknotes didn't say "Israeli", but "Eretz Yisraeli". The name of the British mandate in Hebrew was "Palestina (E.Y.)" where "E.Y" stands for Eretz Yisrael. The
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IMHO, I would call the currency issued by the Anglo-Palestine
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reads "Land of Israel lira", but the script in Arabic and
English remained the same as that on the British banknotes. You could say that the Israeli currency was introduced only in 1952, while the Anglo-Palestine Company filled in for the Palestine currency board between May 1948 and 1952.
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