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Yugoslavia because the Kingdom of Yugoslavia was a un-Constitutional move of a dictator Alexander Karageorgevitch, he suspended the previous Constitution of the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, installed martial law, reigned unlawfully, dissolved the Parliament, etc. But I do not claim that the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes should be included in the list. (2b) You deliberately construed the
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had an elaborate "plan", you sir would most likely not be able to comprehend it, least of all predict it. Therefore you should probably assume all your "ideas" on my intentions are blatantly wrong. At least, I hope you will do me the courtesy of sparing me from having to read gibberish every time I see your post. Rest assured that the Admins you keep addressing
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Istria. But, they had sections in this page. Existence of Ottoman Empire in Croatia was lasted three hundred years and sometime most of it was part of her. But, she hadn't any section in this page. Why ? As if there was an Anti-Turk sentiment on it. Please, you finish this sentiment and add an Ottoman Empire section in this page, please. Yours sincerely
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whether or not it was a member of the League of Nations). The annexation and destruction of a state like Yugoslavia in such a manner is an illegal act per contemporary international law. Thereby rendering any and all "states" formed by sheer force on its illegally occupied sovereign territory - illegal (non-existent). These documents state:
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I added 'existence of Ottoman Empire in Croatia (1492-1791)' section in this pace. But, it was deleted unfairly. Existence of Republic of Venice in Croatia was limited in western Istria and Dalmatia. Before taking remnant of Hungarian Croatia in 1527, one of Habsburg Monarcy in was limited in eastern
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Was Croatia "not in Yugoslavia" during WWII? This is only true if one considers the Independent State of Croatia a legal entity and successor to Yugoslavia. Who considers the NDH a legal Croatian state? Fascists and right-wing neo-nazi Ustaše supporters. Who gives a damn about what they think? Noone,
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Historiography is not Law. States are not formed nor destroyed. They are a fact during their existance. One can describe some states using different atributes; the very fact of their existance cannot be illegal, if no international law on the creation of states existed during the WWII. Now we have a
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section heading that covers Croatia from 1918 to 1991 is "Croatia within Yugoslavia". Get over it, and curb your nationalist censorship of historic facts. The only reason you want to remove that heading is because you don't like the fact that Croatia was a part of Yugoslavia, OR, maybe you're trying
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The ISC signed the Geneva conventions?? I did not know that LoL... what a joke that was, that's like Pol Pot joining the Red Cross. Anyway, the Geneva conventions do not interest me. Rather the Hague Conventions of 1907 of which Yugoslavia was a signatory and Germany a founding state (regardless of
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proves my point: not even if I had university publications explicitly supporting my view would you acknowledge that you are WRONG. What am I supposed to do on articles and templates where there is no way to support either way with sources? There's no chance of ending the discussion, unless I don't
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Our most recent era — Modern Times — begins with the end of these revolutions in the 19th century, and includes the World Wars era (encompassing World War I and World War II) and the Cold War. The 'contemporary era' follows shortly afterward with the explosion of research and increase of knowledge
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If I just drop bombs you just repeat yourself and your ridiculous paranoid theories about my "schemes" over and over again. The comical part is that you must think yourself very "clever" whenever you uncover a "scheme" of mine that you imagine. Countless times all you talk about is my "plan". If I
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Italy were not States Parties of the Hague Conventions (1907), as well as the Kingdom of Albania under the House of Savoy (Albania was still a separate Kingdom). The Kingdom of Montenegro (re-est. in 1941. was completely legal, even if was under protection of the Kingdom of Italy + had not had a
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You do not discuss but drop little "bombs" like the third point. You omitt discussion about the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs in hopes that when someone comes along (an admin) that your statement, about the Kingdom of SHS being exactly the same as the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, would prevail.
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topics are null and void. The Modern History is a good enough term + most exact, not because I say so – but because (1) historians acknowledge the division on Modern and Contemporary (novija & najnovija). (2a) Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes is not exactly the same as the Kingdom of
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Let me make it clear, your accusations are null and void when it comes to my person. I am not mislead by any ideology. On the other hand some users claim that they are Croatian, but write Slav on their user page and do that knowing that some nations consider Croats as
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started to support the Partisan movement (then still organized by federal lines) the Soviet Union changed its standing regarding the modes of cooperation between the Partisan movement and the Royal Government in Exile. This was definitely approved at the
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decided that Yugoslavia would be re-created, re-constituted or what ever, and it was explicitly said that this re-constitution would happen after the WWII. This means that there were no Yugoslavia at that point. Also the Soviets did not acknowledge the
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The Contracting Powers recognize that hostilities between themselves must not commence without previous and explicit warning, in the form either of a reasoned declaration of war or of an ultimatum with conditional declaration of war. Hague III, Art.
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an illegal act. This was recognized by every single Allied state. Both Yugoslavia and Germany were "signatory powers" of the 1907 Hague Conventions - Germany violated them (as she did many times before). This point is then closed as well?
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of its Section III is blatantly violated by the formation of another state on the territory of an occupied hostile state (Yugoslavia). Occupied territory of one state remains the territory of that state and no other until the war
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The Kingdom SHS was renamed into "Kingdom of Yugoslavia". These are not two states. What we have here is mindless nitpicking on your part, as usual. Knowledge (XXG) treats them as one state, see the articles on
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different sittuation, and the international law on the creation of states and self-determination is still being written (namely in the case of the Republic of Kosovo — and we know how you feel about that issue)
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about the Kingdom SHS being seperate before you mangle this template by listing the same country twice. Hell, you get me any historian that properly states he considers them seperate and I will concede this
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In other history templates we do not have your approach of listing the federations to which one country was part of. Serbian history template lists the Principality of Serbia as part of its Modern History.
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some acts (documents), some actions, some symbols. Why we do not have anything written about the National Liberation Army and Partisan Detachments of Croatia, the Croatian antifacist partisan movement.
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in History of Croatia series, but the articles do not exist at the moment, so there's no sence in putting the red links to the Template. When the articles get written, then put them in the template. --
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to do so. What happens? You get bored and think the matter is over. This is not over, must I make this "interesting" for you? Discuss. Or do you only discuss when there's an edit-war? --
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I'm not going to discuss this with you: the Kingdom SHS = Yugoslavia - its the same state, just renamed. Its Yugoslavia. I'd have to be a total idiot to even discuss this with you.
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up to the first Constitution of the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. (3) The talk about Hague Conventions of 1907 has nothing to do with this template, you forced it in. --
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it really shows your desperation in avoiding the term "Yugoslav". Why do you believe, and what source can you use to verify your claim that the Modern period lasts up to 1991??
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to lead a discussion with each post being one page long, can you get that?? Half that stuff you wrote up there doesn't even have anything to do with the question at hand... --
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about your "theories" anymore than my imagined "plans", and that you live in a fantasy world where people actually read what two conflicting persons think about each-other. --
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Technically, the King had every right to disband the parliament because of the shootings that took place (Radić killed, etc..). You and I both know its a political move, but
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states formed during war are illegitimate (exact wording, paragraphs, years, pages — please). Also you should know that ISC signed the Geneva Conventions on January 20, 1943.
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but for Austria it did apply. The United Nations is obligated under its Charter to protect former mandates of the League of Nations (failed to do so in the case of Danzig).
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he had every right to assume the powers that he did (the sneaky bstrd). You do not insist on the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes? Can we at least get that behind us?
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They even omitt the fact that the Principality was for the major part of its existence under the Ottoman Empire (independent from 1878 to 1882, when it became a kingdom).
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defend the "legitimacy" of the NDH is an ultranationalist Ustaše-supporter. Why? Because only they are so blinded by bias that they are capable of ignoring simple facts.
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This is not something I am going to debate. It is public knowledge. Croatia was within Yugoslavia immediately after WWII, not after Alexander I's dictatorship.
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definition I've never heard of before??? There are many definitions, some say "modern" refers to the period "1800 - present", others "18th century - 1973".
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Other parameters might be needed for further use of the infobox in more articles. The above parameters are used when stacking along with other infoboxes. -
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cannot be a part of this template. This new article if written properly and without revisionism should be in the template, and not some Yugoslav Front.
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I repeat the crucial question again, as it has stupidly gone unanswered in your large posts full of rubbish descriptions of my imaginary "schemes":
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Furthermore, your postulate that Croatian inclusion in Yugoslavia is somehow "illegal" because the Croatian parliament never "ratified" that is a
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Did you just invent a category? "Recent history = 1918-1991"? In your dreams. All you are doing is avoiding the term "Yugoslav" which you removed.
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and its Fifth Republic (1958-present) in the 20th century. History is not Mathematics. This way we could list what you insist we not call the
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how to phrase the section without mentioning Yugoslavia, and you're cooking-up weird and inaccurate phrases. I am not backing down on this. --
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All your arguments are excuses so that you can have your way in spite of all sense and reason. Discussion with you is absolutely and utterly
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recognize the division of history into "Modern" and "Contemporary" the way you imagined it (in 1991). Stop repeating that nonsense. There's
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with the German Reich, Kingdom of Italy and other, Yugoslavia apparently allowed presence of Axis troops and never formally left the Pact.
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You should also stop making original research claims of something "would have been declared illegitimate" if United Nations were arround.
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No need to repeat you're not about to agree to anything I do - I got the message... Please don't edit any of my talkpage posts. --
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citizens of the Soviet Union and of Yugoslavia were to be handed over to their respective countries, regardless of their consent.
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The NDH was a wartime creation formed by foreign powers on occupied Yugoslav territory. Yugoslavia as a state obviously never
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Why isn't any section about Ottoman Empire in History of Croatia page despite existence of her was lasted 3 hundred years ?
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This is a template used for the gathering of the timeline and the topics on History of Croatia and not on the History of
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because I noted and insist that the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs was independent before December 1, 1918 and this
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You do not know how to skim read?! Please stop patronising with talk of brevity or legibility. You know very well that
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includes "War of Independence" and "Republic of Croatia". This is another ridiculous debate I am about to go into. The
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is also oriented towards displayment of Moldovan history and not the history of some federations Moldova was part of.
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to "add legitimacy" to the NDH? Typical censorship with the purpose to mislead. It is obvious to anyone that you have
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Article 1 of the present Convention shall take effect in case of war between two or more of the Contracting Powers.
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The Partisans of Yugoslavia should be supported by supplies and equipment and also by commando operations.
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1973, after which comes the Postmodern era. "Contemporary period" is such an incredible piece of made-up
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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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start banging my head against the wall at how much energy I've wasted writing all this - and give-up.
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Why exactly does "recent history" or "modern history" not include events that took place after 1991?
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but highligthed to show that Croatia gained independence which is of top importance in any History.
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Croatia was not always in Yugoslavia and the Modern History is a good enough term to use.
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Mr. DIREKTOR is using this talk page as a sand playing ground. This is proposterous. He
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has different meanings in different Historiographies. Please stop the nonsense that we
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the Hague Conventions relating to the law of war apply in terms only to wars in which
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capitulated (the army surrendered, not the state), and much of its territory was even
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ceased to exist along with it. Ever heard of the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs?
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contains federal entities only in those cases where Kosovo did not have its own unit
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was not inserted by me, but I think it is perfectly suited for the period after the
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points of this discussion, each referring to the specific change in the article:
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in the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes was never approved. This notion of
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Why exactly does "recent history" not include events that took place after 1991?
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write Croatia in Yugoslavia, you advocate this even if the inclusion of the
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I have asked you many times to list exactly where it is written that by the
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known as the Information Age in the latter 20th century and 21st century.
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above the Kingdom of Yugoslavia which was the entity Croatia was
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Very well, just so you know: the occupation of Yugoslavia was
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certainly not the Croatian government, and neither will I.
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I did not list the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes.
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has its First Republic (1792-1804) under the header of
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all belligerents are States Parties to the Conventions
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is also one of the viewpoints widely held in Croatia.
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Croatia was a part of Yugoslavia during World War II
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