Template talk:Infobox adult biography

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of such measurements can cause jealousy in the vast majority of our readers, who are average or even below average in size. Also, the flaunting of these measurements could cause marital difficulties with some couples, possibly leading even to divorce in extreme cases, when one partner seeks "greener pastures" as it were. I am no legal expert, but it is not difficult to imagine this template brought up as evidence in divorce court, and Knowledge (XXG) being held liable. Monetary penalties resulting from such court cases could potentially bankrupt a non-profit project such as Knowledge (XXG). Gentlemen, please. For the sake of the future existence of Knowledge (XXG), this template

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infobox. Conversely, male porn stars are never described by their bust-wait-hips measurements, or the size of their bust, while for female porn stars, these are fairly standard, most official stars' web sites display these measurements. The male template has a blue background, the female one has a pink background. The Eurobabeindex only lists female porn stars, but that's less important, I guess. If you can manage to make the template reflect these differences, we can merge, but not otherwise. --

763: 1955:- The subject does not have to be notable for having these measurements; this appears to be an assumption. Clearly these measurements are relevant to this subject’s occupation; however they do need to be adequately referenced and if they are not adequately referenced then it should be removed from the article. Most of the reasons here do not appear to be a good reason to remove the parameter altogether and more a case of 144: 126: 95: 788:|birth= {{birth date and age|1954|7|23}} |location= ] |birthname= Ellen F. Steinberg |death= |measurements= |height= |weight= |eye color= Hazel |hair color= Brunette, red, bald and other |natural bust= Yes |ethnicity= |alias= |homepage= http://www.anniesprinkle.org/ |iafd= Sprinkle |imdb= 0819810 |afdb= 5218 |afdb name= Annie_Sprinkle |spelling=US }} {{Adult bio |photo=  387: 154: 234: 210: 789:|birth= {{birth date and age|1954|7|23}} |gender=female |location= ] |birthname= Ellen F. Steinberg |death= |measurements= |height= |weight= |eye color= Hazel |hair color= Brunette, red, bald and other |natural bust= Yes |orientation= |ethnicity= |alias= |homepage= http://www.anniesprinkle.org/ |iafd= Sprinkle |imdb= 0819810 |afdb= 5218 |afdb name= Annie_Sprinkle |spelling=US }} 719: 296: 2646:

really think spelling is needed regardless of whether we transition this template or not. Its not populated on very many and some of those are either appear incorrect or unverifiable. With regards to number of films I think there are enough other actor/actress/performer type individuals to warrant adding this to the person template if its not there already. --

328: 1901:. I think the general concept that you don't need to use every parameter in the infobox is one which is quite frequently ignored. Yes, measurements can be notable for athletes and models, when they are extremely tall, short, heavy, ... But as you point out, such measurements are rarely verifiable and frequently change. 244: 1307:

adult actor, ...). These links actually help with that process, since an actor with a page at afdb is almost certainly an adult actress. I have found a large number of Greek fashion models are using this template, and some politicians (which is usually vandalism to add the politician's penis measurements). Thanks!

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I just thought I'd add some technical info here for some potential better understanding of WP guidelines. When a field, like hair or eye color here, are removed from a template, they are not always removed from the articles en masse. In the grand scheme of things, these edits are generally thought of

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I have removed all the deprecated parameters as well as some invalid ones that were never in the template to begin with. IMO we could probably keep eye color but hair color is pretty pointless because so many women color their hair and so many men shave it off it makes it kinda senseless IMO. I don't

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Seems reasonable. Before we do that, it would be great to replace uses of this template for non-pornographic models and non-pornographic actresses. I wrote a script which generates a list of articles to check, after first eliminating articles that match certain keywords (e.g., pornographic actress,

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which is very similar to Knowledge (XXG), and endeavors to be a comprehensive information source for pornography. It is similar to the other external links that already exist in the template, but is more similar to Knowledge (XXG) in spirit and intent. Anyone have any opinion on adding it, or have an

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Actually, I wouldn't object if we moved it to the Person infobox wholesale and just dropped the extra fields. Most (if not all) of the entries have links to IAFD which readily provide film details, same as for regular actors with links to IMDB. Hair colour I agree with Kumioko on, and eye colour can

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Also support the deletion of this template. It is also highly probable that any article which currently uses the template is inappropriate for Knowledge (XXG). These articles should be targed for deletion-- judicious use of notability/reliable source arguments should prevent the deletion of trvial--

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Important points towards this consensus included fact that the infobox could not include all of the available links and that it would be inappropriate to pick and choose one or a few of those links over others. Suggestions that losing access to the most useful of the available links (typically IMDb)

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Discussions about the fate of these links took place in numerous places over some time, with a number of people advocating removal of all external links from the infobox, if not the article as a whole. Others spoke of the value of having at least a link to IMDb in the infobox. Eventually, a far from

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If you test this template out by copying the template from a male or female porn star to a sandbox and removing "male" or "female" from the template name, you will see that there is no change other than the words "penis size" now read "measurements" and potentially the colour (this template now uses

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The subjects tend to be adult actresses/actors and may also be adult models, therefore there should be a combination of parameters which reflect both of these. Women colouring their hair, men shaving their hair and coloured contacts are not good arguments to remove them, this just seems like a case

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Infobox person supports all the basic parameters (name, birth-death date and place, nationality, ethnicity, image, caption, height, weight, spouse, website, alias) I could transform this infobox to use infobox person but step 1 is to remove unnecessary colouring. After that we have to discuss if we

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I agree skin_color should go, and for the same reason that Dismas gives. In terms of Infobox:model, the key difference is that the measurements field for Model will likely have reliable sources whereas Adult Biography tends to have very suspicious ones... so I don't think we can do a global replace

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Um... Thirded(?). Lately an IP has been adding a skin color to many of the articles that use this template and they keep getting reverted. One of the reasons that I've seen given for the revert is "irrelevant". That begs the question, when is it relevant then? Personally, I don't really see the

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Gentlemen, please, let us put aside this tangential discussion. I think there is a very serious matter that is being overlooked here. These size measurements under discussion pertain to a template used for adult film stars who are typically above-average in bust and/or penile dimension. The listing

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Even in in Japan, blood type is simply trivia. More of a footnote like the zodiac signs, and zodiac signs are not included in biography infoboxes and articles either. As for shoe size, huh? Why would someone calling the fire department need to know anything about shoe sizes? Again, that is the most

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That said, a merger isn't impossible, you'd merely have to add a "gender=" parameter, and make those parameters that are different between the two templates conditional upon it, and then make the redirects from the existing templates set that parameter. If you do that, I won't mind. But you have to

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The "penis size" can still go under "measurements", as it does in this template. The "measurements" field does not enforce any format or specific measurement. Changing the displayed title from "measurements" to "penis size" seems a bit easter-eggy even in the male template. The Eurobabesindex field

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Thank you for the comment. I removed "ethnicity" from the scope of this proposal. The reason I originally had it there is because this is intricate detail typically cited to an interview or another unreliable source. I've seen combinations of "Greek, Welsh, Cherokee and German" and other such like

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This template was created by including all fields from {{Female adult bio}} and {{Male adult bio}}. While I have included all the fields in the creations of this template, I do not believe all should be included. I support the future removal of questionable fields such as "natural bust" and "blood

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be used in the infoboxes on adult entertainer articles. If these performers are to be treated as other actors and entertainers, then I suggest that the same format of presenting the infobox contents is used. These intricate details are not included in the infoboxes of the mainstream actors that I

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I cannot bring myself to vote on this. Sometimes Knowledge (XXG) can prove to be a deep joy at the end of a long, hard (no pun intended) day; this is just such an occasion - is anyone seriously debating whether penis size should be included in an info box on a living (or dead) person in a serious

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With respect, I think you haven't actually used these templates in many (or any?) articles, otherwise I believe you would have noticed some more key differences. The male template's "measurements" parameter becomes one measurement, penis size, which would look rather odd on a female porn star's

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the information could be reliably sourced. (Notable in this case would be in the context of other porn performers, so perhaps it would be relevant for a male porn performer with an exceptionally large penis, but the size of all porn performers body parts are not notable.) If there are reliable

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I do not understand how years active would be subjective, it is the period the subject has been active for, this would be the same as any other actor, singer, comedian or businessperson that is on Knowledge (XXG). If there is a hiatus the infobox can reflect this as well such as the case of

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would damage the usefulness of film articles were not found persuasive by many since such links could still be included in the External links section and the table of contents linking to the external links section having all of the useful external links is adjacent the infobox. --

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Umm... why? We have a good many fields already, and piercings & tattoo information would fluctuate too much. I can see additional fields being useful (for instance, breaking the image field out into Image and Imagesize similar to how Infobox Actor does it) but not those two.

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as being more work than they are worth. The info will no longer appear to the reader, so removing them just creates more work for the server without much benefit. When performing other edits, I often remove them as well since I'm already editing the article in the first place.

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as they also apply to links in an infobox. I don't feel that Wikiporno adds any unique information to wikipedia beyond information that doesn't have to comply with wikipedia's strict rules on biographies of living people. You can also get feedback from the

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I don't know anything about Wikiporno except what I saw during the 15 minutes I spent browsing it. For many performers, all it contains is a filmography. I don't think it adds a great deal beyond iafd, which is subject to some degree of verification. —

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If the eye colour or hair colour of a performer is relevant to their popularity or importance, discuss it in the body of the article. If you have trouble finding sources which mention why it is important, perhaps it isn't. Leave it out of the infobox.

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Blood types play an important role in Japanese culture as a substitute for zodiac signs. The key role that shoe sizes play in British culture is obvious from the fact that it is one of the first thing you are asked when you call the fire brigade.

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for a non-controversial citation of height either. As for ethnicity, the USA is gradually becoming more & more diverse over time. I myself have three different ethnicities in my background, and many of my relatives have even more than I do.

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The only field that doesn't apply to both males and females is "natural bust", which should arguable be removed anyway. The only field name conflict is Image/Photo, which is easy to deal with. Why is there a need for two separate templates?

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At a minimum, we appear to have consensus for removal of "measurements" and "measureispenis". Personally, I support the removal of all body part measurements from this template per Sandstein, but further discussion is probably warranted.

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removing body part measurements from the infobox. As mentioned above, such measurements are unlikely to be reliably (i.e., indepently!) sourced, and are of dubious encyclopedic relevance anyway. In the very exceptional case that they

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with a proposal to adopt "Infobox person" as the default template for adult actors going forward, and dispense with the special template. Specifically, I am proposing this version as meeting the needs of the vast majority of related

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will only show up if it is used, although I question if the index is notable enough to be included at all as it doesn't seem notable enough to have it's own article. There is no need for different colours for men and women.

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Height and weight are almost always sourced to the (unreliable) IAFD. In addition, weight fluctuates -- that's just a fact of life. Unless a performer is notable for her/his height or weight, it should be omitted.

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And some measurements don't stay the same through out the actors participation in a single film. If I recall, there was an attempt made at one point in time to merge this template (and the model template) with

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of those body parts, this should probably be discussed in the body of the article rather than in an infobox. For these reasons, I propose that "measurements" and "measureispenis" be removed from the infobox.

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Explain to me how "years active" is anything but subjective as well? Do you count the period from first work to last, the 3 day work after a 5 year hiatus? I don't see any reason for "years active".

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You'll notice the IAFD link for Ron Jeremy provides distinctly different results when followed from the first template, and from the second. This is because the second uses gender=f, which he isn't.

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templates in the first place)...that's just silly. The proposed replacement template also does not contain the parameter "number_of_films", which is pretty standard in adult film performer BLPs.

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Haven't heard any feedback on this, so I'm assuming it's okay to add, test on a few pages that use the template, and then monitor talk pages for any complaints that it is not actually valuable.

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The only one of these parameters that I could reasonably see eliminating at this time is weight, since (as noted below) it can obviously fluctuate over time. There's nothing wrong with using an

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I added tracking for "natural bust", "orientation" and "shoe size". They have been removed per previous discussions but they are still present in some pages. Please someone help remove them. --

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My point was that it would be helpful to the reader to have the years active, hair colour and eye colour within the infobox, regardless of if it is in the text/main body of the article or not.

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really need "hair colour" and "eye colour" for adult actors. IF we remove them then spelling is useless too. My opinion is that we don't. After that we are left only with "number of films". --

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There - all done as that cat Magioladitis comes back as empty. Now I did see some interesting bits while I was going through... some articles that used this template even though the subject is

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As far as why the merger is necessary: Having one template standardizes how porn stars are treated in wikipedia. There is no reason to treat female porn stars differently than male porn stars.

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Ethnicity is mentioned in the title of this section but not the formal proposal. I would recommend a separate discussion of that issue, as AfDs have found that ethnicity may be relevant. See

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I was not disputing the inclusion of ethnicity by the way, I was merely confirming some of the previous arguments about skin colour not being included as it was not discussed in great detail.

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I also agree in removing "hair colour" and "eye colour". If they are no objections I ll add them to the list with the deprecated parameters along with "spelling" and start removing them. --

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Also, does someone have a running list of the paramters we are removing for this (and if possible other) infobox? Also, does Infobox person already support all the fields from this infobox?--

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I also support replacing the infobox. That simplifies matters, prevents unintended (or sneeky) BLP violations in the source code, and prevents the proliferation of inappropriate parameters.

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You picked a male template without penis size. Had you used one with, the difference would be obvious, as it would read Measurements, though providing one measurement, and would not link to

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is removed, then this template is essentially redundant to that one, given the general consensus regarding the removal of film database links in infoboxes (see thread directly above).

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I don't think you realize how serious this is. Surely if such things are disputed we can simply give a confidence interval or some other statistic? People need to know these things.

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undisputed consensus arose to remove all external links from the infobox and to move them to the External links section where appropriate in view of the External links guideline.

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No complaints here. Hair and eye color are also apparant in Infobox model so if we do remove them we should consider starting a discussion about it on that template as well. --

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If parodies are the only think you can come up with to demonstrate the relevance of shoe sizes in biographies, then you need not bother as you are proving the exact opposite. —

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and have been looking into how to clear out an infobox field. If nobody minds waiting a couple days (busy in real life until Sunday night), I'd like to take a stab at it.

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away from the infobox to the external links section as we did with all other infoboxes (actor, person, television, film etc.). Copying from Infobox film's documentation:

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Would anyone disagree that is would be helpful for the reader to have the eye colour or hair colour of an adult model on the infobox, same as it is on the model infobox?

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Note: Female adult bio used the word "photo" while Male adult bio used the word "image" for the same field. While this template suggests using the field "image", it is

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but acceptable subjects-- while allowing us to delete articles in this subject area. There are projects which cover such subjects. Knowledge (XXG) is not one of them.

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Why? As you note, the two templates do not have the same fields. That seems to be a strong argument against merging them. What are your arguments for merging them? --

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removed the classes "vcard", "fn", "note" & "nickname", thereby removing the emitted microformat, despite a warning in the documentation, not to do this.

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We are now in the last step of this merge. I suggest that we replace this infobox with Infobox person by moving "number_of_films" away from the infobox. --

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Yobot could do it but I will be inactive till end of May for personal reasons. I can try to write the code somewhere and ask someone else to run it. --

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Numbers like these are rarely verifiable and they do not stay the same throughout a persons life. Sadly height, weight etc are still active fields in

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I propose that we add a field for the number of mainstream (non-adult) films that an actor/actress has appeared in. Crossover status is a part of

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point in having the field. If it's relevant to the person's article, it will be pointed out in the article somehow. So why have the field?

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extreme of trivial information and you wouldn't find this type of information in an ordinary biography, much less an encyclopedia article. —

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Without changing any attributes or fields, this is how the templates would look after redirecting. I've used the bios of well known stars

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closed as keep, although there are good arguments for eliminating that one as well. That's my view of how we should proceed from here.

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to imply that personal details such as these would only be relevant if the performer was notable because of their penis or breasts

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that starts with: "There are very few jobs that actually require a penis or vagina." Pornography is clearly one of those jobs. --

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Removed gender which defines abovestyle per Infobox person and discussion. Added tracking category. Please someone clean up. --

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as examples. The first template for each is before redirect, the second template for each is what would show up after redirect.

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removing these as trivial and unencyclopaedic: why the hell is Knowledge (XXG) serving as a record of porn star's penis sizes?

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Is there a process by which other external informational sites are added to the bottom of the template? I'm a contributor at

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relevant, e.g. because the person has the biggest body part on record, this can be mentioned and sourced in the main text.

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for a start. Then, I think the next step would be to see if there are any parameters in this template which are not in

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I agree with you. There are some more fields we could remove I guess like skin_color, eye color and hair color. --

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of Adult with model. Now if we were talking changing Adult for Person, that's something which I could support...

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Fine with me. Additionally, it presents challenges when trying to decide what to do with transsexual people.

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just to name a couple. Those ones I changed to Infobox:Person but I bet there's quite a few more in there...

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template. The articles using this template which are about "adult actors" would probably be converted to say

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I also propose the inclusion of years_active, for obvious reasons as per all other biographical infoboxes.

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As for my opinion on those two, I don't see their importance. Especially since they can change on a whim.

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As for "years_active", I've seen other infoboxes (maybe the one that's usually used for a more mainstream

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I've made the changes and added the parameters you requested. How do you make a redirect set a parameter?

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I also think that merging this Infobox (and model for that matter) with infobox person would be best. --

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This message is to notify you that there is an RfC ongoing on whether to add pronunciation info to

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A subject’s skin colour is a matter of opinion more than anything and should probably be left out.

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With the removal of these parameters, is there a reason why this template couldn't be replaced by

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You should put away with your personal attacks and apologize for your mockery before this goes to

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but I haven't tested it ... er ... is that my mother calling? Must dash ... :-) Good luck! :-) --

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I would definitely merge them to make it gender-neutral. Then add section for including gender.

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Hmm. :-) Good question. I guess what I probably meant was that the existing templates could

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be considered a flexible field as well given that we have coloured contacts these days.

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removal of porn-specific measurements. However, general "measurements" is included in

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There is a famous quotation about equality in the workplace, sometimes attributed to

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Yes, skin_color seems a bit much. As for eye_color, and hair_color, those are in

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How is that category populated? Just curious from a technical perspective...

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Dekkappai, you appear to be following the advice you gave in your "retirement"

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sources which discuss the body parts in question and the performer is notable

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I saw a few of those as well. They included some rapper (forgot the name),

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I did no such thing. You really should have your sense of humour examined.

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deleting this template entirely, but that's a discussion for another day.

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Nope, nothing there which looks like it's of utility. Keep the link off.

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I believe the fields Piercings and Tattoos would be appropriate to add.

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The McAfee security feature says that site is very dangerous. Is it?

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Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy...

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entries which look completely made up. Saving it for another time.

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Assuming good faith is a fundamental principle on Knowledge (XXG).

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removing all the other fields mentioned by Farix above; in fact,

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We need a bot to remove skin_color from all transclusions. --

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and more and more performers are gaining this distinction. --

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Erm... I've already started removing the field using AWB.

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Redirect-Class biography (actors and filmmakers) articles

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Deprecate number_of_films and use Infobox person instead?

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I'm amending my comments to add the undocumented fields

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Which parameters do you remove then? I need a list. --

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the common template, with gender added, something like

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