276:
99:
256:
694:
taskforce specific parameters. As such when this template was created we only merged the parameters that existed in those infoboxes at that time. If pronunication parameters had been present in the original infoboxes they would have been merged into this, but since they did not they do not exist in this template. That's not to say they should not exist, or will not exist, but rather it was beyond the scope of the template at the time.
236:
166:
130:
959:
176:
296:
1055:
417:
I find it useful to see the film name in the source language at the top of the infobox where the name of the film is. As I only know one Asian language I find the romanization very helpful to be able to pronounce the name properly as it is the official name of the film. I don't know about
Japanese as
361:
Thank you for your effort in creating the template. I sincerely appreciate your effort and do not wish to disparage it. I apologize if my comment above seems undiplomatic. However, my strong feeling is that when a general or average reader looks at an article on a film, it is extremely distracting to
929:
Pinging you on this since I notice you're a template editor and you've expressed some interest in this template a while back. I'm not sure what the usual process for requesting edits to templates is, so I apologise if this is unwarranted, it's just that it's been some time since the original comment
901:
I just noticed this and definitely agree! Frankly it's just odd to see it say "simplified" or "traditional" but then not display the characters in the appropriate font. I also tested this template and found that it correctly formats Korean hanja, so all the more reason it should be changed to handle
384:
for instance). These parameters were installed by whoever created those infoboxes originally for whatever reason, but since the main film infobox doesn't include these parameters they were all collected into this template so the foreign language articles wouldn't lose them. So even though I created
825:
The problem is that some of the parameters share names but have different functionality from what I recall. I had a go at merging it last year but came to the conclusion it was more hassle than it was worth. On the other hand somebody else thought it was straightforward to carry out so maybe I am
542:
While this template has an option to delink the language, can anything be done to change the link? Because if I type {{Infobox name module|Hindi|हिंदी}}, the language link is ] which redirects to ]. But I thought templates aren't supposed to redirect, but directly link. Can anything be done about
639:
The template should take it. Whether it is "allowed" or not depends on the relevant taskforce (listed at the top of this talk page) supporting the template. If a taskforce for the language you want to add doesn't support it then you can ask them to support it; if a taskforce doesn't exist then I
1185:
I know this template has been "replaced" by individual
Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese templates, but this template is still commonly used for names in those languages (and frankly, it's easier to just use this template when the native name is all that's desired, and not all of the
693:
this intermediary template was created with two specific aims: i) to avoid clutter in the main infobox and ii) because "Infobox film" is a protected template it was difficult for the foreign language film task forces to edit, so having a non-protected name template facilitated maintenance of
385:
the template I'm not really in a position to help you since it is the
Japanese cinema task force that created the parameters in the original Japanese film box, so that's why you need to talk to them. I can handle any technical changes, but it's up to them what is changed.
418:
much but I know Korean has two main forms of romanization and those affect pronouncation as well as the name in the source language is usually very different than it is in
English. I hope the debate/discussion goes well in the Japanese cinema task force page. Take care.
881:
when using non-English text to specify its language in the HTML. This template does do it for
Japanese, but doesn't seem to do it for Chinese. Lang tagging is especially important for CJK because it signals the OS to use a proper font and actually affects
750:
There is no easy way to perform the merge IMO. The merge was put forward as a "nice" idea without any thought given to the practicality of it. These templates perform different functions and there is hardly any functional overlap.
435:
I certainly agree that the native name and the romanized form of the name should be in the infobox. There is only one romanization used for
Japanese on Knowledge (XXG). I don't have any suggestions for changing the Korean format.
562:
I am not aware of the rule that templates should not link through redirects, but it is easy enough to link directly if that is what you want to do. Basically you just need to disable automatic linking and wikilink manually:
796:
Yes, I know
Frietjes, that wasn't though what I was asking. A merge discussion over a year ago resulted in the decision to merge those 2 templates into this one. I was following up on this to see where it currently stands.
848:
hard. It would need parameter name changes as some are conflicting and some are just bad. I'll need to research a bit more how to create an infobox in lua as currently that is what is blocking me from moving forward.
682:
This template was created with the sole purpose to "merge" parameters from the foreign language film infoboxes into the main film infobox to standardise usage. Rather than dropping a dozen extra parameters into
722:
into this? The amount of code in these templates make me think that maybe a true module would be better in handling this. Additionally, the parameter names should be sanitized. We can't have parameters as
305:
152:
362:
have highlighted the words "Kanji" and even more obscurely "Hepburn" at the very top of the infobox, above even the film's director. It overemphasizes the linguistic at the expense of the cinematic.
994:. This change would make the template follow Knowledge (XXG) guidelines regarding Chinese-language text and is thus non-controversial (likely being the original intention of this template anyways).
400:
811:
Betty Logan, what different functions to they perform? I haven't taken a deep dive into this yet, but on the surface it seems both represent the translated name and they just differ in style. --
344:
328:
Would it be possible to display the
Japanese a bit more simply? It is kind of horrible to have all the blue links to "Kanji" and "Hepburn" right at the top of an article about a film.
265:
144:
1248:
930:
without any activity. It seems like specifying
Chinese and particularly traditional/simplified Chinese would be a relatively minor change, but I'm not at all familiar with templates.
377:
245:
140:
285:
148:
1033:
where appropriate. However, I am not familiar with editing templates, so it would be safe to make sure that my proposed change actually works and does not break anything. Thanks,
39:
473:
I added the template
Infobox name module to a couple of film articles, and I'm confused, is it supposed to display the original-language title in the infobox? See for example
1253:
479:; the Bulgarian version of the title is not showing up in the infobox. Or is the purpose of the template just to include metadata but not display anything in the article?
991:
1228:
1218:
1238:
74:
1233:
1223:
1082:
I know Pinyin is mainly used for Mandarin Chinese but I think the result of using Pinyin parameter should say Pinyin and not Mandarin, that's confusing.
1243:
343:
As the creator of this template I certainly have no objections to aesthetic improvements, but the people you really need to talk to about this are the
506:
more convenient to use though since it makes usage a little more compact. I will try to make the template instructions clearer with some examples.
80:
827:
1213:
1186:
accompanying formatting and information). In these cases the text should not be italicized, and I think there should be the option for that.
1042:
939:
911:
620:? Because while Malini is not an English name, "miss" is used in various languages (not just English) to refer to an unmarried woman. --
1258:
194:
1195:
1119:
672:
20:
986:
I want to change the template to properly tag Chinese text and the relevant script (Traditional/Simplified), as mentioned in the
719:
69:
110:
60:
1097:
381:
206:
198:
202:
189:
135:
376:
No it's fine, I'm not offended. The foreign language infoboxes were recently merged into the main film infoboxes as per
24:
886:. I'm aware that this template was meant to be merged but that seems to have stalled so best to fix it here for now.
965:
1038:
935:
907:
772:
715:
380:
which used these linguistic titles. The Chinese films and Korean films also have these linguistic titles (see
116:
1085:
627:
596:
551:
50:
1191:
1154:
1113:
835:
756:
699:
687:
668:
645:
577:
511:
390:
352:
275:
65:
1150:
831:
752:
695:
641:
573:
507:
468:
386:
348:
891:
525:
484:
426:
1034:
931:
903:
441:
408:
367:
333:
787:
1149:
The order of the parameters are hard coded in. Is this not the case for all infobox parameters?
1168:
1139:
1093:
878:
622:
591:
546:
46:
1187:
1109:
1066:
854:
816:
802:
740:
663:
660:
Why is there no IPA or other pronunciation parameter like in standalone language infoboxes?
1199:
1172:
1158:
1143:
1123:
1101:
1071:
1046:
943:
915:
895:
887:
883:
858:
839:
820:
806:
791:
760:
744:
703:
676:
649:
633:
601:
581:
556:
529:
521:
515:
488:
480:
445:
430:
420:
412:
394:
371:
356:
337:
255:
499:
476:
437:
404:
363:
329:
378:
Knowledge (XXG):Templates_for_discussion/Log/2013_March_29#Non-standard_film_infoboxes
1207:
783:
502:, and you can see the original title is now displayed. You may find the template in
1164:
1135:
1089:
735:
and we should also separate multi word parameters by an underscore as is common. --
1014:}} | label3 = ] | data3 = {{#if:{{{simplified|{{{jianti|}}}}}}|<big: -->
1002:}} | label3 = ] | data3 = {{#if:{{{simplified|{{{jianti|}}}}}}|<big: -->
1134:
Is there no way to do this? Because I tried putting it before but it's the same.
193:. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can
1063:
1016:}} | label4 = ] | data4 = {{#if:{{{chinese|{{{Chinese|}}}}}}|<big: -->
1004:}} | label4 = ] | data4 = {{#if:{{{chinese|{{{Chinese|}}}}}}|<big: -->
924:
850:
828:
Template_talk:Infobox_Chinese/Archive_3#Merger_with_Template:Infobox_name_module
812:
798:
765:
736:
181:
1012:| label2 = ] | data2 = {{#if:{{{traditional|{{{fanti|}}}}}}|<big: -->
1000:| label2 = ] | data2 = {{#if:{{{traditional|{{{fanti|}}}}}}|<big: -->
171:
165:
129:
235:
710:
Merging with Template:Infobox Chinese and Template:Infobox East Asian name
210:
295:
1130:
How can I put the Simplified parameter before the Traditional?
953:
92:
15:
1015:{{lang|zh-Hans|{{{simplified|{{{jianti|}}}}}}}}</big: -->
1013:{{lang|zh-Hant|{{{traditional|{{{fanti|}}}}}}}}</big: -->
294:
274:
254:
234:
345:
Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Film/Japanese cinema task force
494:
The title parameters had been input incorrectly. I have
826:
just too thick to do it! You can see the discussion at
779:
503:
495:
474:
640:
would say it is down to individual article consensus.
1017:{{lang|zh|{{{chinese|{{{Chinese|}}}}}}}}</big: -->
782:
which is certainly better than having two infoboxes.
616:
In this field, are we allowed to write anything like
1181:
Request to add |italics=no parameter for CJKV names
950:Template-protected edit request on 27 July 2021
567:{{Infobox name module | ] | हिंद ी | nolink=1}}
209:. To improve this article, please refer to the
109:does not require a rating on Knowledge (XXG)'s
1249:Template-Class Southeast Asian cinema articles
588:Thank you for providing me with the answer. --
997:In particular, I propose to change the lines
612:English text (in non-English script) allowed?
8:
1003:{{{simplified|{{{jianti|}}}}}}</big: -->
1001:{{{traditional|{{{fanti|}}}}}}</big: -->
844:I've looked at this a bit more. It doesn't
1254:Southeast Asian cinema task force articles
205:. To use this banner, please refer to the
124:
1005:{{{chinese|{{{Chinese|}}}}}}</big: -->
618:{{Infobox name module|Tamil|மிஸ் மாலினி}}
1229:Template-Class Japanese cinema articles
126:
1219:Template-Class Chinese cinema articles
987:
732:
728:
724:
399:Thank you for your advice. I've added
1239:Template-Class Korean cinema articles
187:This template is within the scope of
98:
96:
7:
1234:Japanese cinema task force articles
115:It is of interest to the following
23:for discussing improvements to the
1224:Chinese cinema task force articles
884:how the character itself will look
14:
1244:Korean cinema task force articles
306:Southeast Asian cinema task force
303:This article is supported by the
283:This article is supported by the
263:This article is supported by the
243:This article is supported by the
45:New to Knowledge (XXG)? Welcome!
1053:
957:
720:Template:Infobox East Asian name
714:Is there a plan on how to merge
219:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Film
203:regional and topical task forces
174:
164:
128:
97:
40:Click here to start a new topic.
1163:I didn't know that, thank you.
990:on this talk page, and at the
1:
1144:20:31, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
1102:18:06, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
859:13:55, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
840:17:55, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
821:17:15, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
807:17:13, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
792:16:57, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
761:16:37, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
745:16:24, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
382:Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
37:Put new text under old text.
1214:Template-Class film articles
1200:09:34, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
944:08:24, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
916:07:57, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
530:07:01, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
516:20:31, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
489:20:23, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
1124:17:24, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
1072:14:25, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
980:to reactivate your request.
968:has been answered. Set the
902:Chinese correctly as well.
1275:
602:16:31, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
582:16:22, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
557:08:20, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
446:02:44, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
431:02:27, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
413:01:44, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
395:00:13, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
372:00:00, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
357:23:50, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
338:23:31, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
266:Japanese cinema task force
1259:WikiProject Film articles
1173:18:01, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
1159:09:38, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
1047:01:07, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
896:19:23, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
302:
282:
262:
246:Chinese cinema task force
242:
222:Template:WikiProject Film
159:
123:
75:Be welcoming to newcomers
879:considered good practice
716:Template:Infobox Chinese
704:11:25, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
677:01:26, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
286:Korean cinema task force
650:06:40, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
634:04:40, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
299:
279:
259:
239:
70:avoid personal attacks
298:
278:
258:
238:
1027:{{lang|zh-Hans|...}}
1023:{{lang|zh-Hant|...}}
1021:Essentially, adding
195:join the discussion
25:Infobox name module
1062:Looks fine to me.
778:as a module, e.g.
401:a note to the page
300:
280:
260:
240:
111:content assessment
81:dispute resolution
42:
1088:comment added by
984:
983:
873:Missing lang tags
425:
321:
320:
317:
316:
313:
312:
197:and see lists of
91:
90:
61:Assume good faith
38:
1266:
1104:
1078:Pinyin parameter
1061:
1057:
1056:
1032:
1028:
1024:
975:
971:
961:
960:
954:
928:
777:
771:
734:
730:
726:
692:
686:
666:
632:
630:
619:
600:
599:
594:
568:
555:
554:
549:
472:
429:
423:
227:
226:
223:
220:
217:
190:WikiProject Film
184:
179:
178:
177:
168:
161:
160:
155:
132:
125:
102:
101:
100:
93:
16:
1274:
1273:
1269:
1268:
1267:
1265:
1264:
1263:
1204:
1203:
1183:
1132:
1083:
1080:
1069:
1068:it has begun...
1054:
1052:
1031:{{lang|zh|...}}
1030:
1026:
1022:
1019:
1007:
973:
969:
958:
952:
922:
875:
775:
773:infobox Chinese
769:
712:
690:
684:
661:
658:
628:
621:
617:
614:
595:
590:
589:
566:
550:
545:
544:
540:
466:
464:
419:
326:
224:
221:
218:
215:
214:
180:
175:
173:
153:Southeast Asian
138:
87:
86:
56:
12:
11:
5:
1272:
1270:
1262:
1261:
1256:
1251:
1246:
1241:
1236:
1231:
1226:
1221:
1216:
1206:
1205:
1182:
1179:
1178:
1177:
1176:
1175:
1131:
1128:
1127:
1126:
1079:
1076:
1075:
1074:
1067:
1035:ChromeGames923
1011:
999:
982:
981:
962:
951:
948:
947:
946:
932:ChromeGames923
919:
918:
904:ChromeGames923
874:
871:
870:
869:
868:
867:
866:
865:
864:
863:
862:
861:
809:
768:, you can use
711:
708:
707:
706:
657:
654:
653:
652:
613:
610:
609:
608:
607:
606:
605:
604:
571:
570:
569:
539:
536:
535:
534:
533:
532:
500:Godless (film)
477:Godless (film)
463:
460:
459:
458:
457:
456:
455:
454:
453:
452:
451:
450:
449:
448:
325:
324:A lot of stuff
322:
319:
318:
315:
314:
311:
310:
301:
291:
290:
281:
271:
270:
261:
251:
250:
241:
231:
230:
228:
186:
185:
169:
157:
156:
133:
121:
120:
114:
103:
89:
88:
85:
84:
77:
72:
63:
57:
55:
54:
43:
34:
33:
30:
29:
28:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
1271:
1260:
1257:
1255:
1252:
1250:
1247:
1245:
1242:
1240:
1237:
1235:
1232:
1230:
1227:
1225:
1222:
1220:
1217:
1215:
1212:
1211:
1209:
1202:
1201:
1197:
1193:
1189:
1180:
1174:
1170:
1166:
1162:
1161:
1160:
1156:
1152:
1148:
1147:
1146:
1145:
1141:
1137:
1129:
1125:
1121:
1118:
1115:
1111:
1107:
1106:
1105:
1103:
1099:
1095:
1091:
1087:
1077:
1073:
1070:
1065:
1060:
1051:
1050:
1049:
1048:
1044:
1040:
1036:
1010:
998:
995:
993:
989:
988:above section
979:
976:parameter to
967:
963:
956:
955:
949:
945:
941:
937:
933:
926:
921:
920:
917:
913:
909:
905:
900:
899:
898:
897:
893:
889:
885:
880:
872:
860:
856:
852:
847:
843:
842:
841:
837:
833:
829:
824:
823:
822:
818:
814:
810:
808:
804:
800:
795:
794:
793:
789:
785:
781:
774:
767:
764:
763:
762:
758:
754:
749:
748:
747:
746:
742:
738:
721:
717:
709:
705:
701:
697:
689:
681:
680:
679:
678:
674:
670:
665:
655:
651:
647:
643:
638:
637:
636:
635:
631:
626:
625:
611:
603:
598:
593:
587:
586:
585:
584:
583:
579:
575:
572:
565:
564:
561:
560:
559:
558:
553:
548:
538:Language link
537:
531:
527:
523:
519:
518:
517:
513:
509:
505:
501:
497:
493:
492:
491:
490:
486:
482:
478:
475:
470:
461:
447:
443:
439:
434:
433:
432:
428:
422:
416:
415:
414:
410:
406:
402:
398:
397:
396:
392:
388:
383:
379:
375:
374:
373:
369:
365:
360:
359:
358:
354:
350:
346:
342:
341:
340:
339:
335:
331:
323:
308:
307:
297:
293:
292:
288:
287:
277:
273:
272:
268:
267:
257:
253:
252:
248:
247:
237:
233:
232:
229:
225:film articles
212:
208:
207:documentation
204:
200:
196:
192:
191:
183:
172:
170:
167:
163:
162:
158:
154:
150:
146:
142:
137:
134:
131:
127:
122:
118:
112:
108:
104:
95:
94:
82:
78:
76:
73:
71:
67:
64:
62:
59:
58:
52:
48:
47:Learn to edit
44:
41:
36:
35:
32:
31:
26:
22:
18:
17:
1184:
1133:
1116:
1084:— Preceding
1081:
1058:
1020:
1008:
996:
992:village pump
985:
977:
966:edit request
876:
845:
713:
688:Infobox film
659:
624:Kailash29792
623:
615:
592:Kailash29792
547:Kailash29792
541:
465:
327:
304:
284:
264:
244:
188:
117:WikiProjects
106:
19:This is the
1188:ChromeGames
1151:Betty Logan
1110:Mx. Granger
832:Betty Logan
753:Betty Logan
696:Betty Logan
664:Finnusertop
656:Why no IPA?
642:Betty Logan
574:Betty Logan
520:Thank you!
508:Betty Logan
469:Betty Logan
387:Betty Logan
349:Betty Logan
182:Film portal
1208:Categories
1108:I agree. —
1064:* Pppery *
970:|answered=
888:Opencooper
522:Mathew5000
481:Mathew5000
211:guidelines
199:open tasks
504:this form
438:Wistchars
405:Wistchars
364:Wistchars
330:Wistchars
83:if needed
66:Be polite
27:template.
21:talk page
1196:contribs
1120:contribs
1098:contribs
1086:unsigned
1043:contribs
940:contribs
912:contribs
784:Frietjes
673:contribs
543:this? --
496:fixed it
462:Question
145:Japanese
107:template
51:get help
1165:Megutim
1136:Megutim
1090:Gyoren1
1009:to be:
141:Chinese
1029:, and
925:Gonnym
851:Gonnym
813:Gonnym
799:Gonnym
766:Gonnym
737:Gonnym
629:(talk)
597:(talk)
552:(talk)
149:Korean
113:scale.
974:|ans=
964:This
877:It's
427:Asia₪
421:₪Rick
105:This
79:Seek
1192:talk
1169:talk
1155:talk
1140:talk
1114:talk
1094:talk
1059:Done
1039:talk
936:talk
908:talk
892:talk
855:talk
846:seem
836:talk
817:talk
803:talk
788:talk
780:here
757:talk
741:talk
718:and
700:talk
669:talk
646:talk
578:talk
526:talk
512:talk
498:for
485:talk
442:talk
409:talk
391:talk
368:talk
353:talk
334:talk
216:Film
201:and
136:Film
68:and
1018:}}
1006:}}
972:or
733:|s=
729:|t=
725:|c=
1210::
1198:)
1194:·
1171:)
1157:)
1142:)
1122:)
1100:)
1096:•
1045:)
1041:·
1025:,
978:no
942:)
938:·
914:)
910:·
894:)
857:)
849:--
838:)
830:.
819:)
805:)
797:--
790:)
776:}}
770:{{
759:)
743:)
731:,
727:,
702:)
691:}}
685:{{
675:)
671:⋅
662:–
648:)
580:)
528:)
514:)
487:)
444:)
411:)
403:.
393:)
370:)
355:)
347:.
336:)
151:/
147:/
143:/
139::
49:;
1190:(
1167:(
1153:(
1138:(
1117:·
1112:(
1092:(
1037:(
934:(
927::
923:@
906:(
890:(
853:(
834:(
815:(
801:(
786:(
755:(
739:(
698:(
667:(
644:(
576:(
524:(
510:(
483:(
471::
467:@
440:(
424:n
407:(
389:(
366:(
351:(
332:(
309:.
289:.
269:.
249:.
213:.
119::
53:.
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.
