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2515:, etc as opposed to just being one template? Not pushing for any change here just curious. I know there are a few template series still out there like this but most have been converted over to a single template. Apart from the obvious pain of having to convert the template and then all the subsequent pages, is there a reason that this hasn't been done? I'm guessing there some history here that I'm not aware of so if anyone can clue me in that'd be awesome! --
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current position is available, and where; the general reader might have no idea that this is possible, and might want the information. My main concern is simply to make the general reader aware that position is availableāa note at the top of the article is simply one way to achieve this; a note that clicking the IMO number will elicit the position is another. Best wishes,
285:, add {{italic title}} by default. Check the template documentation for any infobox used on the page; it may have instructions about how to deal with italic titles. You may be able to adjust the italics from the infobox instead of using {{italic title}} at the top of the article. Or if that doesn't work, you may be able to disable the infobox's italics code altogether.
2599:, a naval architect, was a great asset to Knowledge (XXG). Unfortunately (and like too many experts), he no longer edits and has had no substantive contributions for over a decade. When we were working on the prior version of the ship template, he cautioned against too much detail, and also stated that many fields would, as a practical matter, be unobtainable.
915:. I think it is of interest to the general user of Knowledge (XXG) to know that clicking a link will show a vessel's position. As articles on places have coordinates at the top, why not a link at top to show ship position? I added the section to QE2 (stationary!) and a few other articles in the hope of sparking discussion; it seems to be working. Best wishes
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2397:=" instead of "planned =" since a small number of articles adopt a planned count based on the majority of sources about the ship class documenting an original planning count value higher than the number ultimately ordered (i.e. an original planned count was announced and significant but subsequently reduced before orders were placed). ā
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558:, you were bold, I reverted, and you never went to the ship's talk page to discuss your changes in detail. Looking over your additions now, I see some good info there that should be added to both the infobox and the main body, with the supporting cites added to the latter, so whenever you want to talk about them, I'm ready to do so.--
1409:. Is the MarineTraffic position significantly unreliable in practice? I'm not up-to-date on this. It also might be better if MMSI were dropped from the infobox if IMO number is available. Maybe also other material that might go out of date, but is likely to be up to date on MarineTraffic or other source provided in the article.
592:. That's fine for articles (i.e. pages in mainspace), but isn't ideal for pages in User namespace (i.e. in editor's sandboxes) for several reasons: (1) it means the user page is in a part of the category tree where you wouldn't normally expect to get user pages (e.g. these pages show up when I'm looking for violations of
2910:). As for individuals, typically a project manager acts as the public figure even though there may be a separate lead naval architect or chief designer in the background. While the "true story" can sometimes be parsed together from multiple sources, it may be difficult to condensate such information in the infobox.
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active. (As I said above, these are the basic parameters, but we can add "cancelled" and "retired" (or lost), etc., to that chronology as well.) The point is, at each stage, the number is adjusted as the ships progress to the next stage of their life cycle, and the stages, when added together, should
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I'm open to suggestions. If the "completed" parameter is to remain fixed, perhaps the parameters needs to be re-arranged then? Planning is naturally at top, and essentially presents a total number. No ships are built unless they were planned, so that number should not be exceeded. The parameters that
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No, just seeing if others agree. If there's a consensus for support, then I'll start adjusting the numbers wherever I find them in need of it. Maybe we can post something at wt:ships to let others know and then there'd be more fixing as well. (But, if there was a code that would do that automatically
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is adapted.) Technically this discussion no longer belongs in the Talk for the ship infobox; should it be continued here, or elsewhere? (Alternatively, the infobox template itself could be modified to show the position note above the infobox top, as I've done in the examples linked, if the IMO number
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article was an early attempt, and I've improved the idea since then (I've left the QM2 for now as one approach, I'll change it later according to discussion here). A later, and I think better, approach with existing tools is to put the ship position link in small text at the top right of the article,
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Pennsy22, you might want to add a bit more context to your comment, along with diffs. You were entirely correct to add hull numbers to the ship identification parameter, but I don't know about the other stuff as they're not referenced in just about any source I've ever seen. So I find them of dubious
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I have decided to clarify my point now that I'm at a computer instead of a smartphone. How do we identify the designer, knowing that multiple companies are typically involved at different stages of a ship design project (conceptual design, classification design, workshop drawing development...) and
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template I prefer something terser (see second right-justified line above), though using a template will enable following any changes to the marinetraffic URL. Any ideas? How about a new template with shorter wording, maybe jumping directly to the MarineTraffic map rather than full ship info (which
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This template lists displacement (the weight of the ship) but not gross tons or net tons, which is the carrying capacity of the ship. Vessel documentation does not typically include the displacement and is usually obtained only through the master builder certificates. For example look up the Annual
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Traditional ship registries do not treat 'Completed' as a ship status ā it is a total count of ships for which construction was completed, not the number currently in a 'completed' status. Stated another way, the value of the 'completed' field goes up, but never goes down. I would say "planned :
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a few days ago because I had no idea this was even a thing being discussed. As others have opined, I do not believe this has any place in an article, as it simply does not add any real value. Why do we need to know, in educational terms, what the location of an active vessel is? By its very nature
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I've been putting the hull numbers along with code letters and the flags. They are saying that the flags? code letters? don't add to the ship info. I think they are misreading the part that says keep the
Infobox brief. To me that means keeping each entry brief, you don't need a sentence explaining
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I am against including such information in the infobox as it may be difficult to reliably identify a single designer (company or individual person) for ships and there is potential for edit warring as the designer is typically not identified in e.g. ship databases (one notable exception is if the
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hide the header. Capital ships like this can be on order for years, and are listed separately as such on various ship lists, so I figured this would be a worthwhile parameter to add to the infobox. Anyone know why the "hide header" function didn't work? Is there another way to add this parameter?
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There's been comment here by people I believe to have expertise in ship matters. It would be interesting to find whether the general reader (of a general, not shipping, encyclopaedia) would be in favour of a clear link to location. I don't know where to ask the question. The expert will know that
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the valid point was made to "Avoid external links in the main body", a concern I expressed in a previous comment, so the wordy template is probably the best approach. If the consensus is in favour of providing clear position information, I'd suggest a modified template, perhaps simply an optional
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I continue to think that this information should be added to the template, near the top of the article; it points the user to a useful function, it's more than an Easter egg. An article-by-article approach that requires no change to anything and may be acceptable is to use an entry in the infobox
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but I admit I'm not a specialist in old measurement methods. However, I have never encountered it as a metric for modern ships whereas (moulded) depth to main deck is always given. Anyway, I'm stuck in the jungles of
Southeast Asia (and continue to be so for the next two weeks) so I can't really
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Unfortunately his advice was not taken. Now we have a variety of gargantuan templates with fields for every conceivable metric or or datum, most of which will never be filled. We are here to write articles, not aggregate every factoid we can find. And our articles would be much improved if we
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As for your other point, we have a major point of disagreement on how you stuff almost every possible thing into the infoboxes. You also cite almost every line therein rather than citing the same info in the main body so that the infobox looks like it's gotten blue measles. And since one of your
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I need some help on clarifying what it means to "fill in as many fields as possible". It seems I've ruffled some feathers on this matter by filling in empty fields on some ship pages. I've been filling in the "|Ship sponsor=" and "|Ship identification=" fields and am being told that these aren't
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We have "(Total ships) planned, building, completed and active as basic parameters. Once they're built they're listed as "completed", no longer under "buidling". Once they're commissioned/put into service, they're listed as "active", but still under "completed" as well. This creates a numbers
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Secondly, Marine
Traffic does not reliably show where a ship is - it is dependent on receipt of correct AIS information (eg properly entered data onboard the ship), on receipt of transmissions (MT does not have global coverage, and MT limit the publication of satellite-derived info - and the
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I agree that linking to the MarineTraffic position is a bit of an easter egg, but adding a section describing how to click the link seems a bit out of place. The reason MarineTraffic is used is because it should a good overview of the ship's characteristics. A better idea would be to put the
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I'm not at all convinced that this is an appropriate addition for an encyclopedia - it is transient and ephemeral - and from an unedited primary source. People who want to know where a ship is can go directly to appropriate sources, which are readily found through Google etc. WP is not a
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Thirdly, the WP data needs checking frequently, particularly the MMSI, which is not a fixed number for the ship - if the flagging changes, so will the MMSI, and changes under the same flag also happen. Already the maintenance of a large number of ship articles leaves a lot to be
1960:...in between the "Total ships building=" and "Total ships planned=" parameters. It worked, adding the parameter "Ordered" with the number and ref, but it was then followed by a repeat of the "Class overview" header. So even though I added the "Hide header=yes" parameter, it did
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I do not think there should be a textual mention of this at all. The QM2 article (the only one I have checked) gives it undue prominence, but a mention anywhere in the text would still be inappropriate. It contributes little to an explanation of the vessel. WP is not a how-to
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transmitter may well be switched off); some info will be up-to-the-minute, other cases will be hours, days, weeks or even months old. The coverage is certainly not all, or even most, ships with IMO numbers, though the proportion will be higher for those that have WP articles.
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The template contains a field for "hold depth" and one for "depth". Ā The latter should be changed to "moulded depth", a similar but not identical metric. Ā Or simply have one field only for depth, and let the editor specify which after the number, as we do with "tonnage".
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The most important thing is their range, which is the only thing that should be in the infobox. Details like oil or coal capacity should be in the description as I've already gotten complaints that the infobox is too long. Remember that it's a summary, not a complete
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But it likely is too late for that-- we love to add detail, no matter how trivial (and those who do not feel comfortable in writing can thereby get satisfaction from contributing). But can we at least strive to simplify, rather than make things even more complex?
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Nevertheless, if they are all intended to add up, then some of the parameters would have to be reworded, eg "planned but not contracted", "ordered but not started" and "completed" would have to be either dropped or only used in the absence of the six statuses.
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significant to the infobox. My question then is why are they there? And why should one person get to choose what does or doesn't get added to a page. I've added these things to two different pages and in both cases my changes were "undone" as being irrelevent.
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How we identify the designer is exactly the same as how we do anything: WP:RS and WP:V. For most cases there will not be any such person. However, in some cases there are. Those are the ones where it matters. We have articles on notable designers, such as
1631:, a notable ship from a notable story. The current article has no infobox, but it certainly could be given one. I am hesitant to include such a template for an imaginary vessel, but then... Is there any reason why not?? Does anyone know? Thanks!
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I checked the archives on this, but didn't see anything: is there any precedent for using (or for NOT using) this template on an article about a fictional ship that has all of the characteristics of a real ship? I am thinking in particular of
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in the same way as the coordinates of a place are shown. This would require a lookup, and may not be appropriate for performance reasons. (This would not be part of the ship infobox, and would need to be discussed elsewhere, I suppose.)
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here, but I think in many if not most of these cases the editor did not know which was being used. And the abbreviation "D" or "d" often used in sources does not specify (and of course is routinely confused with draught/draft).
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As I said before with some suggested details, the infobox is a possibility. I definitely think that the information that the ship's position is available at a click is more useful to most readers than much of the detail given.
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Can anyone define what the "ship depth" parameter is supposed to represent. "Ship draught" is obviously the depth to which the vessel sinks, usually when fully loaded. Depth might be mast-to-keel distance? or something else?
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Merchant Vessels of the United States, you'll see dimensions and gross/net tonnage but not displacement, some might confuse gross/net for displacement. I suggest adding a field for gross tonnage and net tons.
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I won't discuss further whether or not it's a good idea to show clearly a ship's current position, I explained my reasons above and it's time for others to comment. Regarding what's added at the top, in an edit to
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Total is 17... as it should be. "Planned" is the overall number and will always the highest number, regardless of the status/number of the othe parameters. This is the parameter the others should add up to.
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A link to the MT page (normally using IMO only, and MMSI only where there is not IMO) in
External Links would be the only appropriate place for this, if there is consensus in favour of including this info.
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As to inclusion in the infobox: It likely would add even more bloat to infoboxes (which already are overly long in many cases), but if it should be included anywhere, it likely would be the infobox.
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it's not uncommon for design offices to "claim" references to themselves, "forgetting" to mention the original designer in their press releases (which often become news articles that would then meet
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Nor do I see it as necessary to codify your constraints here, as I'd just assume that editors would act reasonably. However if you think it does need to be stated as such, I wouldn't question that.
2153:. I'm lucky I know a (very) little bit about magic words, templates, and code, or I would never have figured this mess out. Either the interfering feature needs to be removed from the template, or
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So you're looking for some snippet of code to make sure that planned = ordered + building + completed + active? And then do what with that information? Error message? Category? Something else?
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Meh. I don't see how knowing a ship's current position helps a reader understand the ship. If the decision is taken to include this form of information in the infobox it should be tied to
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would do the trick - that code takes User namespace pages out of the category, but would leave Draft namespace in - alternatively the template could be changed to just categorize articles -
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Interesting points made by
Davidships. It raises issues unconnected with the idea of putting a link to a ship's current position at the top of an article, as is done for places in
1167:. There's an example of what would show at the top of a ship article in a comment of mine above, just below the rule (representing the top of an article). A live example is the
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I'm certainly not advocating adding a designer as standard, because in most cases it isn't significant and it's little more than the regular design office of the building yard.
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one-stop-shop for random information. And certainly not in the infobox - far too many ship infoboxes already contain information that is not in the article proper, contrary to
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I don't think it's relevant information for the infobox. Personally, I prefer to include the information in the article body together with explanation of the class notation.
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Total is 24. This class does not, as of now, have 24 ships at any stage, starting with planning. Before planning, they simply don't exist at all, for our purposes.
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We don't link anything in the infobox. Most people are not familiar with specialized nautical terminology, so if we linked displacement, we'd also have to link e.g.
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Agreed. I see error messages from time to time and have no idea how to fix them. Now some ship articles don't have italic titles because I can't get it to work...
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I agree with above. In ships built for exceptional capacity and range, it could be included in the "ship capacity" field. Otherwise, endurance and range will do.
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makes the key point that the totality of these parameters are not mutually exclusive, nor meant to total to anything (though some subsets can be added); and
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If one is sufficient, which one? These insource: searches would seem to indicate that editors are roughly evenly divided when choosing between the two:
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reflect an accurate overall total. In the example I posted above, that is not the case. So I'm just gauging opinions for possible solutions. Cheers -
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which is supposed to improve the consistency of infobox content by giving clear instructions how to include the information in the fields.
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potentially unnecessary fields, I'd like to know what other editors think as excessive or "unobtainable" detail in the infobox.
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Who told you "Ship identification=" is not important? As far as I know, I've filled it out in every ship article I've written.
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for all pages with this template, that would be cool tho'... ) Cheers -
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that can be used for gross and net (register) tonnage in that field.
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