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Buddhist perpetrators in that template. You're trying to slip in a completely unjustifiable anti-Islamic dogwhistle and it will not stand. I've never edited this template (or indeed anything else on the topic) until I saw that horrific little edit, whereas you're the one acting like you own the place. This is not a stance that is defensible, and if this is the sort of thing you are going to revert-war to keep in place, clearly that topic ban is something the community needs to start talking about more seriously.
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No, I'm pointing out that it has absolutely zero relevance to the topic of "Islam in
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It's so out there it's unconscionable. Some
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That is nonsensical. All I am arguing is that for something to be included in the "Islam in
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I hadn't edited this article or this topic before today, while you have been obsessively editing upon and controlling this topic for months if not years, and somehow I'm the one who "owns' this material when I take out one thing that was indefensibly POV. Riiiight.
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