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970:, please stop adding these unrelated links to the template. This template is for the Israel–Hamas war. Not for general judicial terms that apply to dozens of past and current military conflicts and not only. We can't include anything slightly related to everywhere. These links also provide no informational value. Many of them don't even discuss this conflict. It's just clutter. We already have articles of this kind specifically about this war or about the wider Israeli-Palestinian conflict. 162: 804: 786: 306: 21: 814: 211: 193: 750: 674: 221: 1812: 1690: 1535: 1453: 1371: 1295: 1211:, I will participate on them. I think the burden is on you as you're the one proposing a change and because my reverts of those changes have been supported by two other editors. And genocide is a construct, it makes perfect sense that it is full of theorical concepts and definitions. You don't see lists of general definitions on events. At least I don't on 688: 663: 1861: 1498: 1416: 1340: 1770: 1648: 1215:. Lynching in particular started precisely on the US, at least the term, so it is justified as I see it that it is included. None of the terms you mentioned started with this conflict. I don't see any particular reason for including these general terms that apply to many conflicts in the template of this one. 1154:
is also distantly related and it shouldn't be included. All of those general articles are either discussed in other pages on the template or have specific Israeli-Palestinian conflict pages of their own. My edits were thanked by two other editors. One of those reverted your reverts of me. I don't see
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into here. It is not necessarily the ideal format for other conflicts, and we had one collapsible section of this template with two articles and another with four. We should use collapsible sections when not doing so renders the navbox way too long to be read easily; with sections of two and four
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After further consideration, I am not going to perform this edit. Another editor is welcome to handle these requests, but in my opinion this infobox is overburdened as it is and badly needs to be condensed and/or split. I will post a discussion suggesting this when I get a moment. It is already
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Ethnic conflict and Ethnic violence were there for flair, the same being true for Communal violence. Extrajudicial killing, Ethnic cleansing, Social cleansing, Population cleansing, Collective punishment, Political cleansing of population weren't there for flair, they were important terms that
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No you don't, otherwise I would have added these to Israeli-Palestinian conflict template. When people talk about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, all they talk about is "Ethnic conflict," "Ethnic cleansing," "Social cleansing," "Structural violence" this and inhumane blockade that. When the
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All of that looks like your own view and perspective. Other people could also say that X random article is also related because "people talk about them" related to the conflict. I don't see how this is a quantifiable or demonstrable criterion. In any case, we have specific articles. See
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articles we're not there yet. Your edits also left a lot of empty space in general in the template. I am not opposed to adding back some of the links you had added. And personally I disagree with not listing casualties, but I'd like to hear other editors' opinion on this too.
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Add Talal Abu Zarifa to the deceased Other militants section and Mahmoud Khalil Zakzuk to deceased Hamas militants section, and David Ben-Avraham, Hani Al-Masdar and Fathi Ghaben to deceased Palestinian civilians.
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I am not about to link every article from "War" to "Missile," but yes, the most straightforward articles, articles that would otherwise be overlooked, should be included.
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longer than most stubs and bigger than the majority of articles at almost 16.8 kilobytes in size; for context the largest article in the list above is 16.2 kilobytes.
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Have you read any of the articles? This is just as unreasonable as barring "Lynching" from the Civil rights movement template, or "Rape" from the Genocide template.
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The navbox is already bloated, and adding more links (let alone to articles from foreign language wikipedias) is not suitable in my opinion. Have a good day,
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seems like an important court case that is related to this conflict. Shouldn't it be in this template alongside the South Africa v. Israel court case?
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Add Nahed and Ramiz Barbakh and Hadeel and Imad Abu al-Qara (links in the Arabic Knowledge (XXG)) to the deceased Palestinian civilians
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You removed the Killing of journalists in the Israel–Hamas war article alongside the articles mentioned above. What good did that do?
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https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-west-bank-gaza-war-east-jerusalem-shooting-army-23338c903c08bdd3e5fade3e2a048ab1
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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Template%3ACampaignbox_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war&diff=1210491233&oldid=1210418579
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https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2020/07/israels-collective-punishment-palestinians-illegal-and-affront-justice-un
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https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/10/un-expert-warns-new-instance-mass-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-calls
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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/23/middleeast/kamal-adwan-hospital-gaza-israel-abuse-allegations-intl-cmd/index.html
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Palestinians talk about it, all these things are true, up to and including genocide. The terms must be included!
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Adding Yitzhar Hofman into the list of Israeli security forces killed in the Israel-Hamas War template
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https://apnews.com/article/palestinians-detained-israel-hamas-gaza-war-0ecbc338e4024add059b87b38022086d
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And why did "Killing of journalists in the Israel–Hamas war" have to go? Did your finger slip?
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I have a large number of credible sources emphasizing the importance of the terms you removed:
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Stop speaking like this, you've already been warned for your tone by several other users
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As I said not anything even distantly related to the conflict has to be on the template.
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Should Nicaragua v. Germany be listed alongside the South Africa v. Israel court case?
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A member of an armed force is not a civilian, no matter if he is in a uniform or not.
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https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2023/11/13/23954731/genocide-israel-gaza-palestine
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consensus for inclusion of these terms in the template. Because it's not necessary.
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/13/israel-hamas-gaza-war-crimes
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Add Sidra Hassouna to the list of deceased Palestinian civilians in the template
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Sexual and gender-based violence against Palestinians during the Israel–Hamas war
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Day to Mark the Departure and Expulsion of Jews from the Arab Countries and Iran
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What you did on the Israel-Hamas war campaignbox template was worse:
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Include Faiq Al-Mabhouh into deceased Hamas members in the template
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Basic Law proposal: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/01/05/wv-israel-hamas/
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contentious topics
Arab–Israeli conflict
extended-confirmed
making edit requests
purpose of Knowledge (XXG)
standards of behaviour
normal editorial process
contentious topics procedures
make edit requests
contentious topics
purpose of Knowledge (XXG)
standards of behaviour
normal editorial process
Arbitration enforcement
content assessment
WikiProjects
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Israel
WikiProject icon
Israel portal
WikiProject Israel
Israel
the discussion
edit
history
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