3630:. While the heading says "Jewish Languages", the topic is not a list. The template brings together all aspects of Jewish languages--the fact that there's plenty of room to grow for other languages besides Yiddish is no reason to hobble the Yiddish section of the template. I foresee a future for the template in which several new sections are developed that go way beyond the current scope, which is primarily organized on the basis of genetic relationship between the languages. Right now, based on the number of articles there are out there, this is the organizational structure that makes the most sense. This structure, however, is only one of several possibilities that suggest themselves (age, number of speakers, literary importance, use by the sages, etc.)... The current layout is a reflection of the table's original layout, which was itself a reflection of the then-burgeoning section on Jewish languages in
3490:, while sfaradhim say or . Not only are the stressed syllables different, but so are the consonantal realizations. That said, Sfaraði "vocalizations" vary from community to community, influenced primarly by the phonology of the predominant regional language, Judezmo or otherwise, the "Sephardi vocalization" being a convenient "lumping together" of disparate communities' pronunciations, based on the erroneous assumption that Sfaraði communities had the same kind of cohesive communal history as Yiddish-speaking Ashkenazi communities did... Such a mess...
3436:"inkhornish" over "lazinessish" and "uneducatedish". Width is presently being determined here by the length of the text on each line. The reason it's as "narrow" as it is now, however, is to reduce "whitespace". Understanding your preference for "wider" might be helpful in understanding your insistence upon it, so if you could develop why you want it wider, that'd be nice. :-p That said, my big issue right now actually has more to do with the choppy left margin...
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take the extraneous yiddish links out, go for it, but you might find yourself suddenly opposed by whoever originally thought they belonged in there. I'm inclined to redo that section myself already, as I don't think
Yinglish and Yeshivish properly belong as "derivatives" of Yiddish, but as "Judeo-English" or "Jewish English", which is how they are described elsewhere (
3686:. With time and effort, these can all be incorporated into the template. Anyways, my primary interest for right now was to implement the "bottom" vs. "side" template style that was agreed upon by basically everyone but me several months ago. I'm not strongly attached to keeping the other links there (w/ the definite exception of
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I was never particularly attached to it... it was only included in the template I redid because it was in the old rhs template. I would still like to see the template better developed, but I'm inclined to agree with others that it should prolly just stick w/ the languages themselves. If you want to
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If y'all are sufficiently happy with the template that it's good enough to appear in articles, say so and I'll be happy to do the grunt work. (In other words, I think any remaining issues with the new template are minor enough that they can be hashed out without adversely affecting the usability or
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But my beef wasn't mainly about this template taking precedence over the infobox, but rather about its ungainly appearance. Is there really no way of making it a bit more descrete, like making it horizontal and placing it at the bottom, like with most other similar templates, and perhaps cutting down
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One possible recommendation for splitting up that bottom section: Indo-European (Ladino, Italkian, Yevanic, Knaanic, Djidi, Zarphatic, Juhuri); Afro-Asiatic (Judæo-Arabic, Judæo-Berber, Kayla, Kaïliña); Ural-Altaic (Krymchak (which should really have its own article, Krymchak_language, separate from
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Yiddish entries look out of place. Also, if this list were "further developed," it would really become a monster. I think it nicely does the job of connecting the Jewish languages. Perhaps it would be appropriate to have some sort of "Yiddish Language/Culture" table
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Languages". Each of the subheadings is the name of a language family. Every entry in the table is the name of a language, with the exception of the three entries about Yiddish that I am questioning. If I have incorrectly inferred the purpose of the table, would someone
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Thanks, Tomer, for bringing this to my attention. I think that if a group of articles has a predetermined infobox that goes in a specific place, a template should not usurp that infobox's attention. In the case of this template, which will be on more than one article on languages and will only be on
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first, MPerel. The different colors are used because the languages belong to different language families. And this is really isn't a matter of color... It's because this template has been applied to a group of articles (languages) that it wasn't really intendend for. The size of the template is also
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I'd say prolly yeah...I also think it might be appropriate to split the growing bottom section up in some logical manner, and perhaps remove the parentheses, leaving the clarification of what each language is a Judæo- of to the articles themselves, or conversely, but probably less desirable, leaving
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A larger issue, I think is the extent to which this template a) gives an overview of the field of Jewish language by way of an implied taxonomy; and b) provides a navigational device for those who want to immerse themselves in the topic. For example, the article on
Yinglish is interesting, but is a
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I think one reason the template clashes a bit with the language info box is due to the different sizes and colors of the two templates. The language info box is wide and bright green, and this template is long and has an almost purple blue in some of the background. One suggestion I would make is
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The language infobox is present in at least a hundred language articles. To remove it just to make room for an exclusively Jewish infobox is less than ideal. Like all other language articles, the Jewish languages are still first and foremost linguistic, and should be shown in a continuum of related
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I took your proposal to indicate that you no longer felt it appropriate to keep the references to "Yiddish institutions" in the template. My intention was to suggest simply removing them, without constructing a separate template (regardless of any further references that might be placed there). --
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differences, however, someone decided that "dialect" was an inappropriate description. Given stress and intonation differences especially between
Ashkenazic and other "vocalizations", I think the "vocalizations" and "dialects" arguments have about equal weight. As for Judeo- vs. Judæo-, I prefer
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I'm cool with making it horizontal and putting it at the bottom. I was the one who made an effort to put all the mentioned Jewish languages in one box, so I'll take responsibility for the clutter and am agreeable to the proposed solution. I'll give it a couple of days and then I'll do it, though
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Other (Judæo-Georgian, Judæo-Malayalam). Of course, that leaves the question of what to do with
Yiddish, Hebrew, and Aramaic; do they get their own sections, or go in Indo-European and Afro-Asiatic? I suggest the former, based on their importance and number of sub-topics, but people might object.
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Given that each division makes the template longer, I would recommend no section have fewer than 3, and preferably 5 items in it. Thus Indo-European (Ladino, Italkian, Yevanic, Knaanic, Djidi, Zarphatic, Juhuri); Afro-Asiatic (Judæo-Arabic, Judæo-Berber, Kayla, Kaïliña); Other (Krymchak, Karaim);
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This is simply not so. The historical differences between
Ashkenazi, Sepharadi, Yemenite, etc. are for a language that was used for liturgy and Torah study, not a spoken language in day-to-day life. The texts were written similarly in all locations and could be sent, say, from Syria to France and
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The problem is not (IMHO) that it's displacing other templates, but that it is having an attention conflict with the language infoboxes in a couple (far from the majority) of the relevant articles...If you really feel that it's that big a problem, I think the solution would be to get rid of the
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Do you mean a
Yiddish template instead of the current one, or in addition to it? I don't think that there is anything particularly useful to be gained by the former, but do feel that the latter would be unjustified extra baggage. Why the separation of Yiddish and not any of the other Jewish
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The time may soon come to split off Jewish Indo-Iranian languages to a separate section, and possibly Jewish
Romance languages as well...especially after I finish the articles I promised to have done in half an hour (and won't be done with...) Any objections?
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languages that head multiple articles (Hebrew comes immediately to mind)? Might it not be more effective simply to lighten the present template by restricting it to its nominal purpose, and only including references to languages proper? --
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If I understand correctly, those languages are not specifically
Jewishly developed languages, but languages which happen to be spoken by Jews, and to include those would probably result in a list of nearly all existing and dead languages.
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oops! You're right, I didn't realize there was a color scheme to the infobox, sorry about that! And the model templates recommended by either Jmabel or Peter are definitely something to consider in perhaps redesigning this template.
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You're really getting somewhere, TShilo. But why "vocalizations"? "Dialects" seems far more natural. I would also really prefer "Judeo" over the decidedly inkhorn-ish "Judæo". Also, is it possible to make slightly
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I don't have a clear picture of how this should be done. My only remark is that some sort of a hierarchy may be appropriate. Why doesn't someone go for it, and I'll comment on the result. Sorry to be a wimp. --
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The template is still clashing with the normal language article infobox and will keep on doing so until someone removes it or redesigns it. Do we actually have any takers on horizontalizing this template?
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I'm fine with "the former" as well. Thus far, you Jmabel and I are the only three who have made any input yet, I say we get Jmabel's vote and move forward. So far, we have a 2/3 majority tho... ;-)
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I think that we need to come up with a design that minimized whitespace as much as possible. The former had that advantage, but I see the advantages of having a horizontal version at the bottom.
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I dunno, Peter...I'll solicit comment from people who have shown an interest in such templates in the past, except Leifern, who seems to be monitoring this closely already. :-p
4280:, outside Knowledge (XXG))... and there needs to be some way of including Judæo-Alsatian (and possibly other Jewish Germanic languages, should they exist). See above. Cheers,
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as well as the placement of the Chinese template (at the bottom, not right smack at the top, where it's bound to come in conflict with text, section layout and pictures).
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OK, I put "vocalizations" down a line (although I'm still not at all happy with that description), and took out some spaces in the bottom line. It now looks like this:
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Yeah, I just didn't want a huge list of languages in one section. The section heading can come out, or if you think of other classifications that would be fine too.
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language infoboxes instead of the template, as the language infoboxes are quite easily accessible from the "parent language"s of each individual Jewish language.
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Thank you for your suggestion! When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make whatever changes you feel are needed. Knowledge (XXG) is a
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the giving of the language's self-designation to the article, and putting in awkward-sounding names like Iranian Kurdistani Judæo-Aramaic and the like.
1461:. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out
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very different phenomenon from Yevanic, to take a random example. So I guess my question is, what is the right way to structure this knowledge? --
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102:-related articles on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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TShilo reverted my change of "dialects" to "vocalizations" with the claim that there are even differences in vocabulary.
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for example, I think the family color should be changed to "lightgreen" instead of that bright "lawngreen"; compare with
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Fair enough. When this is clarified, the redirects I've created should be fixed to point to the appropriate place.
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The way "dialect" is normally understood is not appropriate to the historical reality being described in this chart.
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What are the "Nat'l Yiddish Book Ctr.", "YIVO", and "Yiddish Theater" doing in a list of languages? --
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Clearly it would be preferable for the 3 columns on the bottom to be all the same width...a help Joe?
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3329:
3325:
3322:
3318:
3314:
3313:Judæo-Kurdish
3310:
3306:
3303:
3299:
3298:Judæo-Kashani
3295:
3294:Judæo-Kermani
3291:
3287:
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3283:Judeo-Shirazi
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3276:
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3249:Judeo-Persian
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3208:Judæo-Romance
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3164:Indo-European
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3141:
3137:
3134:
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3111:
3108:
3106:
3102:
3097:
3094:
3090:
3086:
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3078:
3075:
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3072:Judeo-Aramaic
3069:
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3049:
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2892:
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2879:Judeo-Marathi
2876:
2872:
2868:
2864:
2861:
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2853:Judeo-Shirazi
2850:
2846:
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2797:
2794:
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2791:Judæo-Romance
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2784:
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2747:Indo-European
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2726:
2722:
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2697:Judeo-Aramaic
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2403:Indo-European
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2394:Judeo-Shirazi
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2332:Judæo-Romance
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2279:
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2248:Judeo-Aramaic
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2229:
2225:
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2199:
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2056:Judeo-Shirazi
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3122:Judæo-Libyan
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3517:Is it time?
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3225:Judeo-Latin
3110:Judæo-Iraqi
2867:Judæo-Greek
2808:Judeo-Latin
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2349:Judeo-Latin
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2011:Judeo-Latin
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1677:Judeo-Latin
1328:Judæo-Greek
1273:Judeo-Latin
1009:Judæo-Greek
954:Judeo-Latin
4459:Categories
4129:as well...
3658:literature
3433:vocabulary
3369:Kartvelian
2901:Kartvelian
2591:Like this?
2459:Kartvelian
2121:Kartvelian
1787:Kartvelian
1375:Kartvelian
1064:Kartvelian
4409:Yeshivish
4087:Yeshivish
3364:Dravidian
3237:Lusitanic
3233:Zarphatic
3213:Catalanic
3196:Yeshivish
3040:Ashkenazi
2896:Dravidian
2816:Zarphatic
2796:Catalanic
2779:Yeshivish
2665:Ashkenazi
2450:Dravidian
2357:Zarphatic
2337:Catalanic
2320:Yeshivish
2216:Ashkenazi
2112:Dravidian
2019:Zarphatic
1999:Catalanic
1982:Yeshivish
1882:Ashkenazi
1778:Dravidian
1685:Zarphatic
1665:Catalanic
1648:Yeshivish
1548:Ashkenazi
1366:Dravidian
1281:Zarphatic
1261:Catalanic
1244:Yeshivish
1144:Ashkenazi
1051:Dravidian
962:Zarphatic
942:Catalanic
925:Yeshivish
825:Ashkenazi
259:Yeshivish
248:Yeshivish
193:Languages
184:languages
143:Languages
4405:Yinglish
4067:Yinglish
3836:contribs
3811:Tigrinya
3646:alphabet
3390:Gruzinic
3376:Krymchak
3335:Hellenic
3200:Yinglish
3156:Cushitic
3148:Cushitic
3056:Tiberian
3048:Yemenite
3044:Sephardi
3026:Medieval
3022:Mishnaic
3018:Biblical
2922:Gruzinic
2908:Krymchak
2783:Yinglish
2681:Tiberian
2673:Yemenite
2669:Sephardi
2651:Medieval
2647:Mishnaic
2643:Biblical
2464:Gruzinic
2442:Krymchak
2324:Yinglish
2232:Tiberian
2224:Yemenite
2220:Sephardi
2202:Medieval
2198:Mishnaic
2194:Biblical
2126:Gruzinic
2104:Krymchak
1986:Yinglish
1898:Tiberian
1890:Yemenite
1886:Sephardi
1871:Medieval
1867:Mishnaic
1863:Biblical
1792:Gruzinic
1770:Krymchak
1652:Yinglish
1564:Tiberian
1556:Yemenite
1552:Sephardi
1537:Medieval
1533:Mishnaic
1529:Biblical
1380:Gruzinic
1358:Krymchak
1248:Yinglish
1160:Tiberian
1152:Yemenite
1148:Sephardi
1134:Medieval
1130:Mishnaic
1126:Biblical
1069:Gruzinic
1039:Krymchak
929:Yinglish
841:Tiberian
833:Yemenite
829:Sephardi
815:Medieval
811:Mishnaic
807:Biblical
772:redesign
263:Yinglish
252:Yinglish
30:template
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4373:Futhark
4313:Futhark
4264:Futhark
4220:Futhark
4156:Futhark
4005:Yiddish
3968:Futhark
3870:I have
3807:Amharic
3805:Should
3650:grammar
3615:futhark
3585:futhark
3553:Done.
3339:Knaanic
3331:Yevanic
3263:Bukhori
3229:Shuadit
3217:Italkit
3172:Yiddish
3081:Hulaulá
3077:Barzani
3068:Aramaic
3060:Mizrahi
3052:Sanaani
3015:(eras):
2871:Knaanic
2863:Yevanic
2833:Bukhori
2812:Shuadit
2800:Italkit
2755:Yiddish
2706:Hulaulá
2702:Barzani
2693:Aramaic
2685:Mizrahi
2677:Sanaani
2640:(eras):
2416:Knaanic
2408:Yevanic
2374:Bukhori
2353:Shuadit
2341:Italkit
2303:Yiddish
2257:Hulaulá
2253:Barzani
2244:Aramaic
2236:Mizrahi
2228:Sanaani
2191:(eras):
2078:Knaanic
2070:Yevanic
2036:Bukhori
2015:Shuadit
2003:Italkit
1969:Yiddish
1923:Hulaulá
1919:Barzani
1910:Aramaic
1902:Mizrahi
1894:Sanaani
1860:(eras):
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1736:Yevanic
1702:Bukhori
1681:Shuadit
1669:Italkit
1635:Yiddish
1589:Hulaulá
1576:Aramaic
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1459:be bold
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1324:Yevanic
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1277:Shuadit
1265:Italkit
1231:Yiddish
1185:Hulaulá
1172:Aramaic
1164:Mizrahi
1156:Sanaani
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1005:Yevanic
979:Bukhori
958:Shuadit
946:Italkit
912:Yiddish
866:Hulaulá
853:Aramaic
845:Mizrahi
837:Sanaani
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416:Bukhori
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3857:Eliyak
3728:Eliyak
3488:tallit
3484:spoken
3465:spoken
3420:wider?
3380:Karaim
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3267:Juhuri
3221:Ladino
3140:Berber
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1451:log in
1443:anyone
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802:Hebrew
707:E=MC^2
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3654:study
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3424:Peter
3351:Indic
3254:Aryan
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2090:Indic
1961:Qwara
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1756:Indic
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1441:, so
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