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The template is for "Current late night shows in the United States" (previously "Current late night talk/news satire/comedy shows in the United States", but that is too specific since not all late-night shows are talk/news satire/comedy). But now there is another problem: what shows should we put in
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The template hasn't been updated in over a month precisely because late-night shows "do not debut and end that frequently." But the template is nevertheless regularly updated, as regularly as shows premiere/end, and not likely to be outdated. Thus, the word "current" is accurate and in my view
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I'd personally remove the news since it's rather redundant and not all late-night comedy shows revolve around the news, or at least I don't always associate them with it. The main focus should be late-night comedy
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