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211:(yesterday's FA) with the template (I'd've done the conversion myself but it's ambiguous). The section in question converted acres (to hectares, which are fine but not SI, but that's another issue) but not bushels per acre. The tag is lying when used for articles which have some conversions but lack others (of course, this time it's true, hectares are not SI but that's not why I tagged the article). In short the tag says there are no conversions when it should say conversions are lacking. 153:"This article or section contains no SI units of measurement." is further misleading implying the each article should have at least one SI unit but that one would suffice. Many articles don't even need units at all. Those which do have them, though, tend to have many, most of which should be converted. Furthermore it emphasises SI but often a non-SI metric unit (the litre for example) will suffice or even be preferable. 21: 250:
SI Units are used in the large majority of countries and all scientific fields. For geography I see reason to leave both, but especially in scientific fields why shouldn't the better system be used? How is it a direct attack against America to say metric is better than imperial... because it is.
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This template is anti-American IMO. Despite the fact that Americans make up the majority of users on English WP, this template implies that its WP policy to use non-American measuring systems. Why can't we use both instead of trying denigrate the other?
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Reasonably, the template can be applied only to articles with units of measure. The template could be changed to read "This article or section contains units of measurement but no SI units of measurement.", but I think it is clear the way it is now.
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Knowledge (XXG), the most comprehensive Knowledge (XXG), is used by people who speak English in whatever countries, for whom it would at least be helpful to have metric units. —
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non-SI units, which is not in conformance with the Manual of Style or with Reliable sources. SI units should be added parenthetically, not replace. —
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It's not anti-American. We can, often should and usually do have both. If you want a "provide US customary conversions" tag, make one.
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Would rephrasing it as: "This article or section does not contain SI equivalents to the units of measure used." work better?
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95% of the world (by population) uses SI units as their primary or sole units of measure. Wake up and smell the metric. :-)
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I don't understand this whole deal about having to use SI units on the wiki, anyway. This is the
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How indicate "convert to grams· using this template?. I.e. |unit=gram parameter? --
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SI is now commonly used in England and other English-speaking countries. Also, the
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Clear, yes, but clearly wrong. The article or section might provide
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conversions but might be missing others. I've just tagged
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Knowledge (XXG), not the French Knowledge (XXG) :-/ -
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This is misleading, and implies that SI units should
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